[sixball]

Thanks, Every little bit helps. I found a reprint of a parts book. It was more than I wanted to pay but that info doesn't seem to be easy to find. I looked closely at the point set up today and was glad to see that mine is like modern points. In the early style the lobe closed the points and the closed tension had to be set too. Some had one set of points powered by a mag and one set powered by the battery and coil. There is a lot to learn from this thing. 

[Kiwijeff]

Here's a great book on Hudson's.
Its by John A Conde, and while not containing a lot of tech, it is a must if you want to know Hudsons.

[Kiwijeff]

Thought you might like to see my 28 Super Six. It has an F head, which means the inlet valves are in the head, exhaust valves are in the block. The carb on it is not OG, and just mocked up for fun. I'm looking for a Ford  300 carb for it. Gotter love the brass water pump. The brass thing in front of dizzy is the oil pump.

[sixball]

My Essex is an F head. Strange that Hudsons at the time were flatheads and when Essex went to a six in 1924 they used a flathead that didn't work as well as the four. I didn't know that Hudson used an F head.

[Kiwijeff]

Same with the Super Six, Hudson's, they dropped the F head for Flathead, but not sure when.
They say that the Super Six ran that smooth, you could balance a coin on its edge, on the rocker cover with engine running, and coin won't fall over.

[madmike3434]

they started using the flathead design beginning in 1930 when they started building straight 8's.

Hudson had a flathead from 1914---1926.............the F head motor started in 1927 with one cylinder head design , then half way thru they modified the design and ran it thru the 1929 year.

Being the ex  *gasket king* 1979---1990 , I know this stuff.  Even sent a head gasket thru the USA state department for the late 1927--1929 motor , for a car that was in Katmandu Nepal, way up in the Himalayan mountains.

mike

[sixball]

Essex, that was separate but owned by Hudson, began with the 4 cylinder F head in 1919. They used it through 1923 with some changes and went to a flathead 6 cylinder in 1924.

[Kiwijeff]

Well, this week, come hell or high water, I was determined to get the pics of my buddy Mo's 23 Essex I'd said I'd get, so jacked it up for Friday.
We've enjoyed many sunny hot Summer weeks, but it shi#! itself on Thursday, and we even had tornado warnings for Friday, which was the day I planned to do it.
So Mo and I head out to his old home, he sold to his Grandson, where the Essex lives in the basement.
We get there in the pouring rain, and the basement is flooded. 
Mo says, sorry, guess we can't get to the car for the pics, but I wasn't about to let a little water stop me, found a plank, put it from the bottom step to a dry bit of the floor, and got over to the car.
Its pretty rough, hell its really only a stripped down remains of what was once an old Essex, converted into a workers hut. Its got 30 Chev brake drums and wheels on it, and he has a 20 and 23 Essex spare engines sitting over by the far wall.
I use my camera, as its got a flash, and got plenty of pics.
Even took some of the original wheels, steering wheel, and other parts on shelves. There's even an Essex diff, that's had one side cut off, for use as a PTO for a tractor, Mo had collected years ago.
Woo hoo, finally got the pics, and figured I'd load em on puter at work last night, but by the time I was done at work, I just wanted to get home, so left that job for today.
I threw em on puter today, after customer left, and I couldn't load em, due to pop ups, and the damn things got a cold, I mean a virus! 
So I'll throw em on my parents computer tomorrow, I hope, and get em up for you.
Warning, its not pretty, but its still cool. 

[sixball]

It sounds interesting to me. There's a lot more there than what I have. I did find a distributer cap and one part of the controls that mounts on the steering wheel. Too bad his stuff is so far away. I'll most likely end up with a lot of mix and match parts.

[Kiwijeff]

I'm thinking its a shame its to far away too, as Mo would like to sell it.
The engine in the chassis also has a later, more modern carb adapted to it, and tube shocks and coil springs on the diff, so its far from a complete stocker.
It dose have the original enamel badge on the rusty grill, that's pretty cool. The cowl for this car is tiny, I wonder how people could fit, I guess they were smaller back then, no fast food joints to get fat from, he he.
Its almost 9.30 Sunday morning here, so I'll go around to Moms after lunch to get pics uploaded, as they will be at church until then.

[Kiwijeff]

I use my phone for most internet stuff, so thought I can give you some teaser shots by photographing the camera.

[sixball]

Looking forward to the rest.

[ghost28]

It's sitting a flooded basement?

[themoose]

Jeff ...Couldn't make out too much..Looking forward to seeing the real thing

Moose

[sixball]

I can see just enough to know that it exactly the kind of pile of Essex pile I'd like to find closer to home. The cowl and dash look good. I wish it was in a dryer spot.