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Wood

Started by FATnLOW, January 01, 2014, 09:36:24 AM

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FATnLOW

Looking for the  rear sill  wood, that goes between the frame and bolts to the body( Back Panel) on a 33 2 dr master sedan.  Fisher Body service manual for a  1934  refers this as  (C)  Rear End  Sill ... Need it for a pattern to fab.one out of steel,  let me know if there is one out there that I can purchase either  on this forum or from some one else.. Thanks

Looks like no one has one :( ...I would settle for part of one to get thickness and shapes.......any thing out there? :)

FATnLOW

approximately what is the thickness of this sill ????

themoose

fatnlow

Here's a picture that shows a part of it....Maybe you can get some sort of an idea of what might work for you

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Rattiac

Quote from: fatnlow on January 12, 2014, 08:09:47 PM
approximately what is the thickness of this sill ????

1-1/2 " . When I did mine in steel and also cut up a mudflap for the rubber bushing underneath.

cocobolo

Quote from: fatnlow on January 01, 2014, 09:36:24 AM
Looking for the  rear sill  wood, that goes between the frame and bolts to the body( Back Panel) on a 33 2 dr master sedan.  Fisher Body service manual for a  1934  refers this as  (C)  Rear End  Sill ... Need it for a pattern to fab.one out of steel,  let me know if there is one out there that I can purchase either  on this forum or from some one else.. Thanks

Looks like no one has one :( ...I would settle for part of one to get thickness and shapes.......any thing out there? :)
Have you had any luck yet?  If not, I'm pretty sure the '33 Master is the same as a '34 Standard.  It looks to me like the '34 and '35 Standards are the same????   If so, I can give you pics and all the measurements you need from my '35.  Even make you up a heavy paper template if you like.
Specialty Vehicle Association of B. C. Director, Kamloops district.

FATnLOW

Cocobolo.....Yes send  photos and  ant measurements you have....Thanks  FATnLOW

cocobolo

OK, will do.  I just have to pull the rear seat out so we can see the wood.  Shouldn't take too long.
Specialty Vehicle Association of B. C. Director, Kamloops district.

cocobolo

OK, here we go.  Now, I'm hardly the greatest on a computer, so I'm going to explain what I've done and hopefully this will help you.

First I took a couple of pictures outside the rear window, one for the shape so you can have a go at seeing if it matches yours and next I took a pic of the distance across, and I put the tape against the moulding on the other side, not against the rubber seal.  I think yours should be the same.
Specialty Vehicle Association of B. C. Director, Kamloops district.

cocobolo

Inside the car, this is a shot of the general seat support wood. 
Specialty Vehicle Association of B. C. Director, Kamloops district.

cocobolo

Next, I held the tape on the upper piece of wood that supports the seat.  This is attached to piece of wood that you are looking for, so once I get this off we'll get you those dimensions.  But first, I think this piece gives an easy way to get the curve right.
Specialty Vehicle Association of B. C. Director, Kamloops district.

woodremover

33 master , 34 master, and 35 standard are the same size body wise
Although several difference in the attaching sheet metal.( front fenders, rear fenders , running boards, grille shells, hoods) But bodies are the same size.



cocobolo

Quote from: woodremover on March 01, 2014, 01:50:25 PM
33 master , 34 master, and 35 standard are the same size body wise
Although several difference in the attaching sheet metal.( front fenders, rear fenders , running boards, grille shells, hoods) But bodies are the same size.
That's what I kinda thought, but wasn't 100% sure. Many thanks for confirming that.  :)
Specialty Vehicle Association of B. C. Director, Kamloops district.

cocobolo

Now what we have here is a series of measurements showing the height of that wide board at the top of the seat support.  I have made a pencil mark every 6" (which I think will show in the pics) so starting at zero, you will have measurements at 0", 6", 12", 18", 24" and 30".  I hope these post in order otherwise it will be confusing.  Using the driver's side as the starting point.  Restricted to 4 pics per post, next one coming right up.
Specialty Vehicle Association of B. C. Director, Kamloops district.

cocobolo

This one at 30" over....

My last pic at the pass side end is lousy, so I'll shoot another one.

You can get the precise curve by using a batten held against a series of nails tacked into a board using those dimensions.  Since the bottom of that piece of wood is straight, the curve should be extremely close.  However, I will confirm that when I get all that taken apart and held up against the window.

All you do is to take a board with a straight edge on one side (piece of plywood is ideal).  Mark your first nail at the beginning at the height shown - I read that as 3 7/32" - move over 6" and repeat etc.  A hair over 3 7/16" at 6", 3 19/32" at 12", 3 21/32" at 18", 3 19/32" at 24", and 3 and a hair under 7/16" at the 30" mark.  The passenger side end appears to be a bit smaller than the drivers end, but that could be due to any number of factors.  I think I would use the same number, especially working in metal.

Please note that the top piece of wood we are speaking of extends behind those "ears" on both sides by about another 2", see pic.
Specialty Vehicle Association of B. C. Director, Kamloops district.

cocobolo

I see I very cleverly managed to omit the starting point...it is extremely close to 3 1/4".  I did say 3 7/32" in the earlier post, but it's closer to 3 1/4...just a hair under.

FWIW this piece of wood is slightly over 3/4" thick.
Specialty Vehicle Association of B. C. Director, Kamloops district.