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1932 Pontiac Six build

Started by Rattiac, December 01, 2013, 02:30:20 AM

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Rattiac

Just picked up this H/V metal band saw. For this winters project. Seems to cut straight and works for what I need.
Just gonna make a better table for it to make vertical cuts easier and get a better blade.

madmike3434

is there any provision for a liquid coolant for the blade.  ??? 

The one a friend and I repaired didn't and we could not see the blade lasting very long.  Unless you used tapping fluid, but that would use a lot of $15 a small can.

mike     8)

TFoch

#242
I mounted my H/V saw on a frame as I only use it as a band saw.  I made a larger table for it and it works great.
Spending time with my grandkids gets in the way of finishing my car but I don't regret it!

vette59jdwl

 I got to wondering if you made some sort of drain pan under the blade or under the whole setup with a small pump set up to direct or spray (say) transmission fluid on the blade does not have to be much just something to prevent the saw blade from burning up or binding up  Harbor Freight should have some ideas in the Hydraulick department. Used transmission fluid is real cheap around here (FREE) is the word .What i do is drain it through one of those old chevy filters that use to hang off of the manifolds. vette59jdwl

vette59jdwl

For all you band saw users just a note.....
band saw lubrication
on the Suffolk web site they offer the following advice

CHOOSING THE PROPER BAND SAW BLADE LUBRICATION

NEVER USE WATER as a lubricant on band saw blades. Water is NOT a lubricant and is the WRONG thing to use for many reasons.

For the woodworker using 1" and 1 1/4" bands, not only is water unacceptable as a lubricant, but it also rusts the bands causing deep pitting, and inappropriate chip swelling. This prematurely destroys the body of the band and its gullets. It also dry rots your tires or V-belts.

For proper lubrication mix HIGH ADHESION CHAIN SAW BAR OIL, with 50% kerosene or diesel fuel. Apply the solution with a spray bottle to BOTH sides of the band about once every four minutes, while the machine is running. When this lubrication is applied, the sound of cutting decreases over 50%. DO NOT APPLY AGAIN until the sound of cutting starts increasing. I guarantee you will be amazed! Longer life; No pitch buildup; No rusted or pitted bands! A great delivery system is the 12 volt windshield washer assembly out of an old car!

"Pam" spray-on vegetable shortening is a great lubrication for 3/4" WIDTH AND UNDER band saw blades on vertical saws. (EXAMPLE: Delta, Grizzly, Jet, etc.) Unplug the machine. Spray Pam vegetable shortening on a rag and wipe on both sides of the blade while turning the upper wheel by hand. You will hear a 50% sound reduction when cutting.

A band saw blade is a tool.
You must lubricate both sides!

In both cases, we know for a fact that lubrication of the body of the band increases band life by over 30%. Applied sparingly, you can cut grade lumber with NO staining to your product.

vette59jdwl

vette59jdwl

background information on canola oil
Canola is one of two cultivars of rapeseed or Brassica campestris (Brassica napus L. and B. campestris L.).[1] Their seeds are used to produce edible oil that is fit for human consumption because it has lower levels of erucic acid than traditional rapeseed oils and to produce livestock feed because it has reduced levels of the toxic glucosinolates.[2] Canola was originally naturally bred from rapeseed in Canada by Keith Downey and Baldur R. Stefansson in the early 1970s,[3][4] but it has a very different nutritional profile in addition to much less erucic acid.[5] The name "canola" was derived from "Canadian oil, low acid" in 1978.[6][7] A product known as LEAR (for low erucic acid rapeseed) derived from cross-breeding of multiple lines of Brassica juncea is also referred to as canola oil and is considered safe for consumption.[8]

Canola was developed through conventional plant breeding from rapeseed, an oilseed plant already used in ancient civilization. The word "rape" in rapeseed comes from the Latin word "rapum," meaning turnip. Turnip, rutabaga, cabbage, Brussels sprouts, mustard and many other vegetables are related to the two canola varieties commonly grown, which are cultivars of Brassica napus and Brassica rapa. The negative associations due to the homophone "rape" resulted in creation of the more marketing-friendly name "Canola". The change in name also serves to distinguish it from regular rapeseed oil, which has much higher erucic acid content.

In the United kingdom one of the cooking oils available is rapeseed oil.From reading the information above taken from Wikipedia it would seem sensible to suggest that the canola oil in the USA. may be the same as the rapeseed oil sold as a cooking oil in the United kingdom
You should be able to use any non-stick aerosol cooking spray. Look at the ingrediants. Its a component called lecithin that provides the non-stick action. The type of oil used is not relevant.
n the US, PAM is made with vegetable oil, olive oil, canola oil and maybe other oils too.
There are other generic brands of non-stick cooking oil available and all work about the same in both cooking and lubricating.   vette59jdwl

Rattiac

Cool table TFoch .  8)
I need to also make a safety cover for the blade. The previous owner removed it for some stupid reason. :o

Rattiac

#247
Today I had to take a trailer load to the dump and asked if they could weigh my car. After dropping the trailer off, I jumped in the car and went back.
3100lbs.

Rattiac

Im getting ready to start on the steering box swap. There is one thing im concerned about. Id like to know what the original box turning ratio is.???

The reversed Corvair box is 20:1  .
Also the pitman arm is 2" shorter.

Id hate to make the steering harder than it already is.

EDNY

Quote from: TFoch on November 08, 2015, 08:29:17 AM
I mounted my H/V saw on a frame as I only use it as a band saw.  I made a larger table for it and it works great.

Here is a conversion I did:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1wLX_l_OdQ
33 Chevy 5 Window, 34 Chevy 3 Window, 37 Chevy 4dr sedan

themoose

Quote from: EDNY on January 03, 2016, 02:27:07 PM
Quote from: TFoch on November 08, 2015, 08:29:17 AM
I mounted my H/V saw on a frame as I only use it as a band saw.  I made a larger table for it and it works great.

That's pretty good ED. I especially like how you're able to control the speed. I have a small drill press that the motor burned out on and I replaced it with a motor off of a tread mill. Has far more torque that the old motor.




Too soon we get old too late we get smart. One out of two ain’t bad 8)

Rattiac

Cool conversion.
I got the new blade on mine. Seems to work good.
Can't wait to start cutting steel.

Back to the steering box.
I found out the original box is a 12:1 ratio.
So the new box should work out great.

Rattiac

Some progress on the saw. Just gotta attach the hinges.

Made a plan on the steering box.
Need some 5" channel to make a mount.
Guess I'll get looking at some U-joints and shafts.

Rattiac

Tried to get the column loose. Those darn original sloted screws. They will be getting drilled out but first im gonna wire up all my lights on the Jeep. It's funner to work on at the moment. Plus they were sitting on the shelf for a long while..

Rattiac

Oh no. Look at what I did.  ;D