[RoarsRods]

As long that they don’t  say NO gas or fuel. Back in the mid 70’s here in Massachusetts we had gas rationing. Only certain days were able to fill and the system was the license plate number odd or even days. Plus the gas lines were long. Here’s on the California coast recent gas prices.

[sixball]

There are people here who drive up to 100 miles a day or more to work in a place they can not afford to live, Tahoe, Carson City, Reno. It has reached the point where some of them can not afford to drive to work & buy groceries. These are good hard working people with families whose cars are their lifelines. This is nothing less than Biden using a tragedy to push his BS energy crap. Russia has very little if anything to do with our energy situation. This is what his blunders were all about. They will put us in a nuclear war just to put us in an electric car. Compared to one nuclear bomb all the green energy in the world means nothing. Did you hear Harris's explanation of the situation? She's next in line just ahead of Nancy. Another few months of this and at least this part of the country will look like Ukraine. But there is nowhere to run.

[chopper526]

There are people here who drive up to 100 miles a day or more to work in a place they can not afford to live, Tahoe, Carson City, Reno. It has reached the point where some of them can not afford to drive to work & buy groceries. These are good hard working people with families whose cars are their lifelines. This is nothing less than Biden using a tragedy to push his BS energy crap. Russia has very little if anything to do with our energy situation. This is what his blunders were all about. They will put us in a nuclear war just to put us in an electric car. Compared to one nuclear bomb all the green energy in the world means nothing. Did you hear Harris's explanation of the situation? She's next in line just ahead of Nancy. Another few months of this and at least this part of the country will look like Ukraine. But there is nowhere to run.

So true Sixball, but at this point I would pay more money to see us cut off our import of oil from Russia.

[Rattiac]

 
https://youtu.be/MXaoQ0k9Jlg

[sixball]

Years ago I read about a guy in England during WWII who ran his car on chicken poop. There was a large black rubber bladder on top that he filled with chicken poop and water. When it heated up it made methane and as it expanded in the bladder it created enough pressure to supply the engine. Pretty crude but it worked.

There was an experiment in India using a truck inner tube cut and one end sealed to male a big black rubber bag. In the morning they would fill it with cow dung & water and fold the open end over and seal it with wood blocks & C clamps and law it on the sun. By dinner time it had made enough methane to cook a meal on a regular Colman camp stove by run-in a hose from the valve stem to the stove. The expansion inside the tube provided the pressure. I always wanted ti try that. Great fuel source on a cattle drive.

[chopper526]

I'll have a cow dung burger medium-rare please!

[chopper526]

https://youtu.be/MXaoQ0k9Jlg

I wonder how many MPC (miles per chip) it gets?

[sixball]

 

[Rattiac]

Well Wednesday im due to meet a few other 4x4's out in the middle of the desert.  I took the day off to go play.    This area is very remote and creepy to get to but some good mining relics are still around.
Not taking the trailer,  there's a high risk of flats. Just the jeep for the day.

[chopper526]

Have fun, take some pictures......don't forget your compass

[Rattiac]

Started driving at 6:30 this morning and got home at 10pm. Put on 300 miles. Explored the whole mountain range.  Alot of driving for one day.

[sixball]

That is a long day. I remember some of those when I lived in the SF bay area and was exploring the Mother Lode. Too many hours ca dull the fun.

[Rattiac]

It was a long day but worth it.  The only part I didn't like was the rail line road getting there,  major washboards for miles. Could only do 20-30 mph.
We explored everything and much bigger than it looks from maps.
While hiking one of the mines we turned around to look at the view out of the canyon.  Noticed a huge plum of smoke coming from AF base across the salt.  Guess they are getting rid of ordinance.
Anyway.
Here's a few for your enjoyment.

[TFoch]

Nice pics!

[sixball]

The west used to be filled with ghost towns & old mine sites. Over the years most of them have been hauled away by artifact thieves. Almost everything around here is gone. Glad you found something left to explore.