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Title: Gasoline Prices
Post by: EDNY on February 13, 2022, 12:01:55 PM
Plan to attend a handgun match the last week of May in Columbia, MO and gasoline prices are beginning to concern me. 

Right now:   Gas in Champlain, NY is 3.79 gal
                   Vermont 3.64 gallon (.15 cheaper just 2 miles from Champlain)

                    Diesel in VT $4.14

May is a long way off!
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: chopper526 on February 13, 2022, 01:14:43 PM
Yes, gas around here is starting to creep up, up about .10 since Christmas, around 3.59.9
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: sixball on February 13, 2022, 10:51:10 PM
Regular was $3.59 yesterday. It has actually gone down some. It is worse in Carson City & Reno. Go Branden!
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: TFoch on February 14, 2022, 01:57:11 PM
$3.30 to $3.40 around me.
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: EDNY on February 15, 2022, 07:41:35 AM
This click and display map appears pretty accurate?

https://www.gasbuddy.com/gaspricemap?lat=39.02645658952957&lng=-96.591588&z=4
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: Rattiac on February 15, 2022, 02:21:37 PM
We've scaled back our trips this year. A bit closer to home and staying away from overcrowded southern Utah.
Joe is a burden.
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: TFoch on February 15, 2022, 03:29:03 PM
$3.30 to $3.40 around me.
One of the stations I drove by again went up 20 cents a gallon since yesterday.
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: EDNY on February 16, 2022, 07:05:59 AM
This administration is really pushing electric cars even though we are not ready for them. If they are so great...Americans will buy them, let the cars sell themselves. 
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: sixball on February 16, 2022, 11:42:45 AM
It will be interesting to watch people choose between heating and lighting their homes or charging their cars. Where are Americans who park on the street going to charge their cars? The cables won't reach 1/2 block and would not be there the next morning.

We recently had a loner Jeep Wrangler that after several hours of charging had a 20 mile electric range. We had to agree to pay $500 if the charging cable was lost or stolen. Every one of those cars will carry one of these theft targets even the ones in places where people are now leaving their cars unlocked in the hope that less damage will be done by thieves. Now homeless people will not just be forcing drivers to pay them to wash the windshield they just soiled they will he standing at the charging stations renting you your cable. A whole new industry with millions more employed. By the way none of the copper, lithium, rare earths,.....that go into these has to be mined? At least it isn't talked about. Go Branden!
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: themoose on February 16, 2022, 04:00:21 PM
Not only do we have all of the issues that have already been mentioned but one of the biggest obstacles will be dealing with the millions of used batteries that will go into the waste stream. Regardless of what the politicians and environmentalist say we are far from being able to safely deal with this issue on any sort of a large scale not to mention the cost to the EV owner to maintain the battery system. Take a look at the link below to get a dose of reality as far as these systems are concerned.

[size=78%]https://www.science.org/content/article/millions-electric-cars-are-coming-what-happens-all-dead-batteries (https://www.science.org/content/article/millions-electric-cars-are-coming-what-happens-all-dead-batteries)[/size]     
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: sixball on February 16, 2022, 05:01:27 PM
Just over the hill from here (maybe 5 miles) is the Tesla Giga Factory where they mostly make batteries in  near secrecy. It is located in TRIC (Tahoe Regional Industrial Center) the largestest industrial park in the US. It has virtually no environmental restrictions. The Tesla building is huge & very deep like a skyscraper under ground to contain spills and slow their leakage into the Truckee river basin. Other businesses i the park are feeder plants to and fro Tesla. One new one is a battery recycler. Tesla got millions from the feds and the state of Nevada. They pay little or no taxes. They promised much and have delivered nothing. Elon Musk is the new P. T. Barnum. Nevada is rich in lithium so I don't expect to get better soon. Green Energy? Then there are the wind turbine blades that must be replaced on a set schedule that can not at this time be recycled.
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: EDNY on February 16, 2022, 06:22:00 PM
Not only do we have all of the issues that have already been mentioned but one of the biggest obstacles will be dealing with the millions of used batteries that will go into the waste stream. Regardless of what the politicians and environmentalist say we are far from being able to safely deal with this issue on any sort of a large scale not to mention the cost to the EV owner to maintain the battery system. Take a look at the link below to get a dose of reality as far as these systems are concerned.

[size=78%]https://www.science.org/content/article/millions-electric-cars-are-coming-what-happens-all-dead-batteries (https://www.science.org/content/article/millions-electric-cars-are-coming-what-happens-all-dead-batteries)[/size]   

Kinda like the wind turbine blades...being buried:

https://stopthesethings.com/2020/05/13/the-big-cover-up-wind-industry-burying-millions-of-toxic-turbine-blades-in-landfills/
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: TFoch on March 06, 2022, 11:07:21 AM
As I passed my local gas station and saw the price was up to $3.99 a gallon I went to my log book in my van and in March of 2020 I paid $1.99 a gallon.  And I bet $3.99 isn't the end of it!
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: sixball on March 06, 2022, 01:14:48 PM
It is $4.09 at Smith's here. It is $4.62 In Reno. Yesterday it was $4.49. $4.29 in Carson City. We'll see $6 or better before summer. This has more to do with Biden than Putin.  Go Branden!

Now $4.39 at Smith's I a few hours. it has gone up 3 times today!. $9.01 in Sacramento.
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: EDNY on March 06, 2022, 09:59:26 PM
Stopped by our local Mobile...kerosene and diesel went up .65 in one day!  In Vermont regular was $4.09 last week...but $3.91 this week?  Nearly all stations in upstate NY are over $4.09

Coldest Winter up here in years...and at the worst time.  Can't feel sorry for myself watching what the folks are going through in the Ukraine.
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: RoarsRods on March 07, 2022, 10:29:55 AM
As long that they don’t  say NO gas or fuel. Back in the mid 70’s here in Massachusetts we had gas rationing. Only certain days were able to fill and the system was the license plate number odd or even days. Plus the gas lines were long. Here’s on the California coast recent gas prices.
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: sixball on March 07, 2022, 12:47:40 PM
There are people here who drive up to 100 miles a day or more to work in a place they can not afford to live, Tahoe, Carson City, Reno. It has reached the point where some of them can not afford to drive to work & buy groceries. These are good hard working people with families whose cars are their lifelines. This is nothing less than Biden using a tragedy to push his BS energy crap. Russia has very little if anything to do with our energy situation. This is what his blunders were all about. They will put us in a nuclear war just to put us in an electric car. Compared to one nuclear bomb all the green energy in the world means nothing. Did you hear Harris's explanation of the situation? She's next in line just ahead of Nancy. Another few months of this and at least this part of the country will look like Ukraine. But there is nowhere to run. :(
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: chopper526 on March 07, 2022, 01:47:22 PM
There are people here who drive up to 100 miles a day or more to work in a place they can not afford to live, Tahoe, Carson City, Reno. It has reached the point where some of them can not afford to drive to work & buy groceries. These are good hard working people with families whose cars are their lifelines. This is nothing less than Biden using a tragedy to push his BS energy crap. Russia has very little if anything to do with our energy situation. This is what his blunders were all about. They will put us in a nuclear war just to put us in an electric car. Compared to one nuclear bomb all the green energy in the world means nothing. Did you hear Harris's explanation of the situation? She's next in line just ahead of Nancy. Another few months of this and at least this part of the country will look like Ukraine. But there is nowhere to run. :(

So true Sixball, but at this point I would pay more money to see us cut off our import of oil from Russia.

Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: Rattiac on April 01, 2022, 09:45:22 PM
 
https://youtu.be/MXaoQ0k9Jlg
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: sixball on April 02, 2022, 01:32:13 PM
Years ago I read about a guy in England during WWII who ran his car on chicken poop. There was a large black rubber bladder on top that he filled with chicken poop and water. When it heated up it made methane and as it expanded in the bladder it created enough pressure to supply the engine. Pretty crude but it worked.

There was an experiment in India using a truck inner tube cut and one end sealed to male a big black rubber bag. In the morning they would fill it with cow dung & water and fold the open end over and seal it with wood blocks & C clamps and law it on the sun. By dinner time it had made enough methane to cook a meal on a regular Colman camp stove by run-in a hose from the valve stem to the stove. The expansion inside the tube provided the pressure. I always wanted ti try that. Great fuel source on a cattle drive.

Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: chopper526 on April 03, 2022, 12:26:57 PM
I'll have a cow dung burger medium-rare please!
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: chopper526 on April 03, 2022, 12:28:08 PM

https://youtu.be/MXaoQ0k9Jlg
I wonder how many MPC (miles per chip) it gets?
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: sixball on April 03, 2022, 07:24:47 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: Rattiac on April 03, 2022, 09:33:18 PM
Well Wednesday im due to meet a few other 4x4's out in the middle of the desert.  I took the day off to go play.   8) This area is very remote and creepy to get to but some good mining relics are still around.
Not taking the trailer,  there's a high risk of flats. Just the jeep for the day.
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: chopper526 on April 04, 2022, 08:06:53 PM
Have fun, take some pictures......don't forget your compass ;D
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: Rattiac on April 07, 2022, 12:43:37 AM
Started driving at 6:30 this morning and got home at 10pm. Put on 300 miles. Explored the whole mountain range.  Alot of driving for one day.
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: sixball on April 07, 2022, 12:53:16 PM
That is a long day. I remember some of those when I lived in the SF bay area and was exploring the Mother Lode. Too many hours ca dull the fun.
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: Rattiac on April 07, 2022, 10:22:55 PM
It was a long day but worth it.  The only part I didn't like was the rail line road getting there,  major washboards for miles. Could only do 20-30 mph.
We explored everything and much bigger than it looks from maps.
While hiking one of the mines we turned around to look at the view out of the canyon.  Noticed a huge plum of smoke coming from AF base across the salt.  Guess they are getting rid of ordinance.
Anyway.
Here's a few for your enjoyment.
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: TFoch on April 08, 2022, 08:16:11 PM
Nice pics!
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: sixball on April 09, 2022, 12:04:09 AM
The west used to be filled with ghost towns & old mine sites. Over the years most of them have been hauled away by artifact thieves. Almost everything around here is gone. Glad you found something left to explore.
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: chopper526 on April 10, 2022, 01:32:01 PM
Nothing to speak of like that around these parts.......
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: 62131 on April 12, 2022, 03:19:40 PM
T hope to get out west someday just to see those types of things
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: Rattiac on April 21, 2022, 01:41:34 PM
This guy may be onto something. Definitely interesting how he got it to work.
https://youtu.be/RnvJjheatRw

And this shows high octane doesn't matter unless you are boosted or running high compression over 12:1.
https://youtu.be/ryqyTPfNj1Q
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: sixball on April 21, 2022, 03:32:26 PM
Crazy!
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: Rattiac on April 23, 2022, 07:44:08 PM
Part 2. Mpg test.
https://youtu.be/1xHQWu2ZzPc
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: Rattiac on May 01, 2022, 11:00:56 AM
This is interesting.  Hope he doesn't disappear like others have.
https://youtu.be/XHZXAz9WP9M
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: TFoch on May 10, 2022, 08:59:51 PM
Gas prices up to $4.50 here in New Hampshire.
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: sixball on May 11, 2022, 12:04:42 AM
That is 25 cents cheaper than here.  And it is more in Carson City & Reno.  :(
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: EDNY on May 11, 2022, 06:22:54 AM
This chart is average for each state:

https://gasprices.aaa.com/state-gas-price-averages/

This link cab be used to locate specific areas:

https://www.gasbuddy.com/

BTW: Biden says it's not his fault
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: 62131 on May 11, 2022, 07:14:26 AM
Ii's $4.29 here and that moron in the white house says nothings is his fault, fellas we are in trouble.
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: sammons on May 11, 2022, 08:06:02 AM
We just hit $3.999 2days ago. Thats a new high here, Obama got us up to $3.889 durning his term. 😡

Going to be mowing a lot less often this summer. It takes me about 2gal per mow.
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: EDNY on May 11, 2022, 11:57:48 AM
Those idiots on the Left want everybody driving an electric car...we take in about 40 billion in fuel taxes each year....what would happen if we went full electric...hint: Electric cars will very expensive to operate in the future!
Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: sixball on May 11, 2022, 12:13:33 PM
I see on the chart that only Hawaii & California are higher than Nevada. The Dems passed a law here that if the Feds suspend the federal fuel taxes Nevada automatically adds that back through state taxes. Many people in this area and work in Carson, Reno, & Tahoe because they can not afford to live where they work. A lot drive more than 100 miles a day & more, some to the Tesla Mega-factory. A lot of them work in the "service" industry, casinos, motels, restaurants......that pay poorly. A large number are finding they can not afford to drive to work. There are very few if any charging stations here. People drive older cars because that is what they can afford, lots of 4x4 pickups because that is what they need. Registration & insurance is high.

EDNY, Here we now get taxed at the pump & by the mile. We have to report the milage on our vehicles each year when we register them and we can get a rebate from what we pay at the pump if that exceeds the milage rate.  ???

My wife & I up dated our voter registration yesterday, me from independent she from Dem to Republican. We had to stand in line to do it. The stick figure chart that Elan Musk drew tells it all only his only went back to 2008.

Title: Re: Gasoline Prices
Post by: sammons on May 12, 2022, 03:57:25 PM
I was looking for an old reciept for a cam, i ran across couple months of old fuel charge tickets from my last months in Mobil days. June 1978 and looks like our 100 octaine premium was right at .68 cents a gal😁 Looks like i was driving my '70 R/T, '69 Torino GT, '59 Elcamino and must have barrowed my little brothers '73 Charger.


Averaging out several months of fuel, around 8 gal a day in cruising/tire roasting. 🤯   Dang sure couldn't afford at todays prices.
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