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Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
« Reply #735 on: September 06, 2023, 11:51:06 PM »
Yep. 😉
New rubber trans mount is in. Also wired in a green led toggle switch for the O.D.
Kinda like a "eco" button on a modern car. 😄
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Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
« Reply #736 on: September 10, 2023, 10:42:44 AM »
After messing with the speedo.  I took the gear out and went to the transmission shop,  he gave me a new gear that looked like a better square drive.  Brought it home ran a few tests with the multimeter.
It failed.
So I ordered a new pulse generator.  This time the 16c unit.  It's the 90° unit for tight fit area's.  I was told it's a more heavy duty unit. Should be here tomorrow.
Filled it back up with atf and went for a drive.  What a difference with the new rubber trans mount.  No vibration anymore. 😎
The car did great.  Also tried the lockup.  When I flipped the switch I couldn't feel any difference.  I'll contact the trans shop again  .
Pics from a old gas station just outside of town.

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Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
« Reply #737 on: September 11, 2023, 02:10:04 PM »
Nice that you got rid of the vibration issue!
The lock up on my Pontiac quit working when standing in winter storage. A couple times it
has engaged the lock up, but only for a couple seconds, so I assume it's the solenoid that has gone bad.
When I removed the ecu on my '84 Caprice I had to make a switch to engage the lock up. I connected it
so that when the brake lights light up, the lock up disengages. Also,when pushing the switch the other
way it frees the lock up for passing a car or driving up a steep incline. It took two relays and a diode to
make this work.

That Pontiac looks cool!

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Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
« Reply #738 on: September 23, 2023, 09:58:04 PM »
I got the new pulse generator for the speedometer but when I went to bolt it on today and the nut wasn't deep enough to thread on. 🤬
Ya think buying the better part would be the same depth threads but no.  Another engineer to kick in the teeth.
Summit will issue my return Monday morning.

Next part will be new rear axle studs.  The shop that redrilled the bolt pattern for some strange reason just threaded in bolts.  They work until you unbolt the wheel.  Had to put lock washers behind the bokts/studs to prevent that , but one is buggered up now and so they have to go. 

Also the saltflats received more rain Thursday and are flooded again so... world finals is canceled.  Was so looking forward to working with that team.  Next year.

On good/exiting news. 
Going fishing with my dad tomorrow.  He's feeling good enough to leave the house after 6 months.  😊🎣
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Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
« Reply #739 on: September 24, 2023, 11:06:33 AM »
Speedos are generally a pain in the ass, especially once everything is not stock.
Glad you are going with proper studs, screw in is just not right.
Happy your Pappy feels good enough to go fishing! (..."snagging cropy" doesn't rhyme) :)
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Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
« Reply #740 on: September 24, 2023, 01:24:08 PM »
Hope you and your Dad enjoy the day of fishing!
Spending time with my grandkids gets in the way of finishing my car but I don't regret it!

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Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
« Reply #741 on: September 24, 2023, 08:31:02 PM »
I got the new pulse generator for the speedometer but when I went to bolt it on today and the nut wasn't deep enough to thread on. 🤬
Ya think buying the better part would be the same depth threads but no.  Another engineer to kick in the teeth.
Summit will issue my return Monday morning.

Next part will be new rear axle studs.  The shop that redrilled the bolt pattern for some strange reason just threaded in bolts.  They work until you unbolt the wheel.  Had to put lock washers behind the bokts/studs to prevent that , but one is buggered up now and so they have to go. 

Also the saltflats received more rain Thursday and are flooded again so... world finals is canceled.  Was so looking forward to working with that team.  Next year.

On good/exiting news. 
Going fishing with my dad tomorrow.  He's feeling good enough to leave the house after 6 months.  😊🎣

I have a small collection of those VSS units...mostly 4 pulse.  If you are looking for a signal from the transmission to the speedo, might be able to help...are you looking for 2 or 4 pulse VSS?  How much clearance do you have for the sensor body?
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Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
« Reply #742 on: September 25, 2023, 02:17:23 PM »
I appreciate that guys and Ed, I have a 16 unit.  Summit is already sending me the right pulse generator.  I just sent the other back on lunch break.

It was good to get out with pops.  He came over at 6am and I drove his jeep to a close lake he hasn't been to yet.  By 10am he was getting tired so we called it a day.  Good day though.
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Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
« Reply #743 on: October 01, 2023, 12:52:35 AM »
Speedo is fixed and recalibrated.  Now just waiting on the trans shop to get the lockup working.  It's hunting season.  He says bring it back in November. 
 
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Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
« Reply #744 on: November 15, 2023, 11:40:58 PM »
Tuesday the car went back to the trans shop to get the lockout working.  Just a pressure switch needed replaced.
Tonight I took it out on the highway for a test and passed .
3rd gear - 3,000rpms / Overdrive 2,200 / lockout 2,000rpms.

Yay this part of the project Done. 😎

Already planning the next stage.  I'd like to address the steering,  cause that new corvair box sucks 🤨 but...... the steel needs to go in first,  once I get to the front and install a new steering column then I'll get to the steering box.
What do you all think about this uni-steer rack & pinion system ???
A fellow ratrodder told me, once he put r&p steering in his car drives like a dream.
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Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
« Reply #745 on: November 16, 2023, 05:42:14 PM »
Glad you got everything working good there.

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Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
« Reply #746 on: November 19, 2023, 11:37:38 AM »
Thank you.  It only took 2 yrs to finally get this done.  By the time I got the transmission,  had the local shop look it over and give the thumbs up to install it and then find out the clutches were bad cause someone prior had cleaned everything out,  send the whole car back for a rebuild.  Wait for him again because of hunting season (October) to get the lockup working . It's been a long process.
I weighed the pros and cons of a internet bought unit vs. finding a core and having it rebuilt. 
Bottom line is finding a shop that knows these older 80's transmissions and one that was close by was what won out.
I was a very patient man.  Lots of horror stories on internet trans.
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Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
« Reply #747 on: November 20, 2023, 02:27:47 PM »
Was going to post on your rack & pinion thread, i see your deleting it. Wasn't really on the R&P anyway. About the gear box. Speedway use to sell Flaming River Corvair boxes, (don't know about last few years). Heard a lot of complaints on them and a few were going to install the bigger 525 manual box(1965-91) avalible in 2 ratios,some were 6 turns lock to lock but some including 2nd gen Camaros used 4.5 lock to lock.  But back to your Corvair box, chances are it was not set up correct or cheap China.

Up into my 20s, i use to adjust that nut you did. Then it would get loose(play) again, reset then steering got tight, wouldn't easily return to center on its own. My old mech/machinist buddy John caught me doing this and told me to stop doing that. The real adjustment needed to be at the input side,(input to sector adjust). Then set preload on sector (pinion). You might try that, it may just not have the right torque set on the input from factory.

Here is a video, not a Corvair box, but an expanation. Hope this may help. Just let me know if you want me to delete my post.

http://youtu.be/VRO1ne-SkZo?si=EOQLmVVvFhKQs9yq
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Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
« Reply #748 on: November 20, 2023, 11:24:28 PM »
Thanks Sammons. 
I just happened to watch that last night and was wondering about that adjustment.  Ran out to the garage a few minutes ago to see if I have that big nut.  It's on the front of my box,  no input shaft going through it but im going to give it a shot this weekend.
Now if I heard his instructions right I'll do this.  Correct me if I'm wrong.
1.) Back off the (chrome cap) small lockout and thread out the adjuster to last threads
2.) Unscrew bug locknut and torque the big bolt to 30ftlbs,  back off 1/2" turn,  tighten locknut.
3.) Tighten small adjuster till I feel some tension and back off till binding is gone.

Also I was told I can add grease through one of the chrome cap screws removed.  Is this correct  ?
There's no grease zerk.
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Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
« Reply #749 on: November 20, 2023, 11:56:13 PM »
I sure hope i'm not sending down the rabbit hole and that a Corvair is like the other saginaw's🤔 Pretty much sounds right, let me rewatch the whole video again. But the 30lbs torque was spec for the 605 box. I think you can add grease thru any access hole. Wrongly, so many people add 80/90 wt gear oil.



Let me see if i have the procedures and torque specs for the Corvair in one of my old Motors or Chilton manuals. I dig around tomorrow. I presume due to a shorter shaft, yours will be the 1965 and newer Corvair style? I found a Corvair (Corvair Center forum), site that looked like it had the specs, but you must register to even look🙄

I just found this on the "t-bucket forum"
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