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Fuel Pump Question
« on: February 21, 2015, 03:37:08 PM »
I am installing a Holley 12-801-1 electric fuel pump and the instructions say to mount it below and close to the gas tank.  I have a 1930 Coach and the tank sits low in the frame with no place to mount a fuel pump lower.  The instructions say it is designed to push not suck.
The Mr. Gasket pump, which I was told to get rid of, was mounted in the inside frame forward and above the tank and it worked.

Any thoughts?

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Re: Fuel Pump Question
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2015, 03:46:38 PM »
Is it possible to move it forward on the frame little to get it below the tank? I would think that if it is flooded as the instruction indicate it should be fine.

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Re: Fuel Pump Question
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2015, 03:50:11 PM »
I can move it more forward, but it still would not be below the tank, although somewhat lower.

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Re: Fuel Pump Question
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2015, 03:59:26 PM »
would it be below the level of the fuel in the tank?

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Re: Fuel Pump Question
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2015, 04:05:35 PM »
I have the same situation with my 33 Chevy, I finally just mounted the fuel pump on top of the fuel cell. I did route the line from the tank up above the fuel pump and then back down about an inch...just trying to keep the pump primed if that makes sense?

Kinda like making a loop (up and down) with the pump at the bottom so it doesn't go dry.

Running fuel injection and using a Ford 70-95 PSI inline pump Delco #EP286.

Haven't had a problem yet in the yard...but I haven't been on the road full time yet.

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Re: Fuel Pump Question
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2015, 04:13:36 PM »
The tank hangs under the frame so no where will be lower,

Ed,

Do you have a pic?

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Re: Fuel Pump Question
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2015, 04:21:08 PM »
Here is a pic of what I am dealing with.

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Re: Fuel Pump Question
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2015, 04:25:51 PM »
I have a old stewart warner A240 fuel pump that's adjustable, been on the car since 1974.

It mounts behind the rear end and ahead of the  fuel tank, that small 10" area. I made a bracket and mounted it too the frame.  I have a loop of -6 aeroquip hose from tank too the pump.   You will need a pipe thread to go into the tank with dash -4 aeroquip adaptor too -6 too the fuel pump.   -4 is really small orifice for the gas to pass thru and anything floating around in the tank will jamb the opening.  I placed the adaptor fitting in a drill press vice and opened took it out to largest I could make it.

Why, because the gas tank liner rubbery stuff some came loose after 30 years and plugged the stock size -4 fitting.  Making me get a ride home on back of a flatbed tow truck and for me to figure out what happened ????????

mike................... 8)

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Re: Fuel Pump Question
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2015, 04:29:54 PM »
Here is a pic of what I am dealing with.


mount the bracket and pump so it hangs down between rear and non stock tank..at same level....you never said it wasn't in stock factory location

also a factory sbc mechanical fuel pump will draw the fuel your motor will need.


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« Last Edit: February 21, 2015, 04:33:13 PM by madmike3434 »

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Re: Fuel Pump Question
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2015, 04:41:30 PM »
Mike,

You think I would be better to go with a mechanical pump?

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Re: Fuel Pump Question
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2015, 05:43:56 PM »
I used the exact same method as madmike by making a bracket to mount the pump in the space between the tank and the rear end. The pump suction side inlet sits even with the bottom of the tank which is the ideal setup.
You can just see the bottom of the pump in the attached photo. I mounted the pump the the bracket on rubber insulators to keep things and also installed a cleanable fuel filter on the out line and also have one at the carb....Works great

Moose

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Re: Fuel Pump Question
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2015, 06:25:58 PM »
Munch, I think Moose has the best setup for using that type of elec. fuel pump, it's low and protected behind the reart. But I am just curious, why not go with a mechanical pump? I'm using a mechanical Edelbrock on my 350/350 that's bored out 0.030. I might be just a tad under-carbureted but I haven't had a problem........yet ::). And, there are no clearance problems with the frame. The pictures aren't too good, but you get the idea.
Tighten it up til it strips, then back it off a quarter turn

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Re: Fuel Pump Question
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2015, 07:26:53 PM »
Here is a pic of what I am dealing with.

Been tying to find a picture of mine...but it's just about the same as your picture. I made an access panel from the trunk to service the sending unit, fuel pump and filter.  My pump is rubber mounted & located about where your work light is.

I'll keep looking...
« Last Edit: February 21, 2015, 07:44:22 PM by EDNY »
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Re: Fuel Pump Question
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2015, 07:43:26 PM »
Just went out to the dark barn and took some pictures....it may not look like it...but the fuel pump is about an inch lower than the feed line.

Ed

BTW: I have a fuel screen before the pump and a GM filter after the pump.
« Last Edit: February 21, 2015, 07:51:26 PM by EDNY »
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Re: Fuel Pump Question
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2015, 08:32:28 PM »
I used the exact same method as madmike by making a bracket to mount the pump in the space between the tank and the rear end. The pump suction side inlet sits even with the bottom of the tank which is the ideal setup.
You can just see the bottom of the pump in the attached photo. I mounted the pump the the bracket on rubber insulators to keep things and also installed a cleanable fuel filter on the out line and also have one at the carb....Works great

Moose



I am looking and looking, where the hells the fuel pump, what the ??  Then I see the slide bar at bottom of pictures and move the picture over........WHY YA LITTLE HAIRBALL , THERE YA BE .


I would make a double L bracket using the inside of the side frame rail, unless the exh pipe or shock or something is in the way.

Oh by way what brand of mufflers are you running and how loud or quiet are they????

mike......... 8)

 


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