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General Discussion - Intros / Re: What Did You do Today - Car Related?
« Last post by sammons on December 14, 2018, 08:43:40 PM »
Damn Sixball, scared me for a second ;D  Have you switched to a 12v system?  On my '50 (the first winter of slow turn) I put an 8v in, sure helped.
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General Discussion - Intros / Re: What Did You do Today - Car Related?
« Last post by sixball on December 14, 2018, 08:33:02 PM »
I got up this morning and dropped a 327 small block in my '53 pickup. It only took about 1/2 hour start to finish. It is and old rusty block sitting in the bed right over the rear axle for traction. I also put some 700X15 mud and snow tires on the rear. It looks like that will be my winter rig because my Yukon broke the block by the starter and I didn't get the Blazer on the road. Sometimes this winter I'll just have to stay home and work in the shop.  8)
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General Discussion - Intros / Re: STARTER PROBLEM. Ticking me OFF ***FIXED
« Last post by sammons on December 14, 2018, 08:00:29 PM »
Corvettes do wierd things when searching for a ground. Turned my windshield wipers on ('69) didn't come on but and a low glow came on both turn indicator lights. Yep bad ground on wiper motor  ;D
Years ago my buddy called me up after lunch and said his Camaro wouldn't start at noon, just clicked. I told him to clean cables and posts and tighten. He calls back, that didn't work. Told him I would check it out at break when I came down to get a Coke. Got there he said he had cleaned it with Coke and cables were tight. I asked if he cleaned the posts like i said...."Yep" , Did you take them off and clean them? Well I didn't take them off, but cleaned them.  ::)
I pulled them off, got my pocket knife out and scraped the corrosion off the inside terminals and scraped batt post, tighteded and walla!
"Oh, I didn't think of that", well now you know ;D
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General Discussion - Intros / Re: STARTER PROBLEM. Ticking me OFF ***FIXED
« Last post by 28chevyguy on December 14, 2018, 07:38:58 PM »
Yes I should have known that , I had a c3 for about 5 years and remember replacing all the battery cables and grounds to fix hard starts.

it was a sneaky little gremlin but its gone now ... just goes to show ,if your main ground goes bad , a jumper cable is NOT going to supply the ground needed for the + amp draw of your starter.   
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General Discussion - Intros / Re: What Did You do Today - Car Related?
« Last post by sixball on December 14, 2018, 07:35:52 PM »
might try this signage............

Signs like that are funny in the den but should not be used to post your property. They can get you into deep DO if you actually end up having a physical confrontation with a trespasser. They have been used in court to show premeditation. I'm not sure about other states but in Nevada signs do not have any legal standing. People who ignore them face not punishment until you actually confront them. Believe me, things can go downhill fast especially if you display any kind of weapon. Property rights are not what they used to be.
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General Discussion - Intros / Re: STARTER PROBLEM. Ticking me OFF ***FIXED
« Last post by sammons on December 14, 2018, 06:20:09 PM »
Glad you found the problem. I thought of ground first but presumed you had new cables already, I almost didn't mention it. I usually check all grounds first (Corvette thing)  ;), but my luck it's always the bigger ticket items  ;D
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General Discussion - Intros / Re: What Did You do Today - Car Related?
« Last post by sammons on December 14, 2018, 06:16:03 PM »
Cool old frame Ed. Haven't seen one of those in years.

Nice day today, I had planned to work on the Elcamino today, that didn't happen :(    4am I got woke up to high pitch screaming. Danged furnace draft induction  blower bearings. Shut furnace off and went back to bed. Took it appart this morn and got the rear bearing seal peeled back to put a little oil on but couldn't get to front bearing well. It's alot better.  Priced out new blower assy  :o gonna have to work on Elky for sure, $160.

Tv anntenna lost most channels yesterday after 55-65mph winds. Thought just spun around. Nope... slip joint on pole broke outside the weld, looked like I was trying to pick up sattilite ;D  Had to get up on roof, pull, weld put back up. Day shot to s..t!
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General Discussion - Intros / Re: STARTER PROBLEM. Ticking me OFF
« Last post by 28chevyguy on December 14, 2018, 05:38:27 PM »
^^^ you guys are right.

YUP it was a faulty ground cable... I thought it looked ok , but I even added jumper grounds w/ the 200amp starter pack and it did nothing so I was leaning towards something totally different.

2 brand new monster battery cables all bolted tight and grounded and BAM problem solved, cranks like an animal now.

now just going to slap the trans back on and throw it all back in .   what a relief , I was thinkin the motor only has 40k what the hell is going on ... you know when you start over thinking ???   

thank you ^^^
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General Discussion - Intros / Re: STARTER PROBLEM. Ticking me OFF
« Last post by themoose on December 14, 2018, 04:13:18 PM »
Is the battery grounded to the engine or the frame. As sammons stated below it sounds like a poor ground. If it's to the frame make sure it's making good contact and run an additional ground from the frame to the engine or better yet from the battery to the engine. Also check the battery terminals to make sure they are clean and tight and lastly load test the battery . It's possible to have good voltage but not enough amperage from a battery which could cause the condition you are describing.
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General Discussion - Intros / Re: STARTER PROBLEM. Ticking me OFF
« Last post by sammons on December 14, 2018, 02:49:12 PM »
Been there  >:(  Bought a running Impala(350) pulled motor/trans and scraped the rest. Needed starter for another project, grabbed that one off. A month later I installed the motor in another car, was in a hurry so I went across the street for a rebuilt starter, slow/dragged. Took it back, exchanged for another. Second new one was slow too. Took back and got the argument that it was my car, said to hell with it. Grabbed an old used one out of my bin.... worked fine! Just cause it's rebuilt, don't mean squat these days. Same with new batteries.

I would make sure you didn't bump distributor and get the timing off a bit first. Then (probably not, but...)  grab another known battery out of one running to try that.  I agree, that shield shouldn't make any diff (1/16" shallower?)   If all that check out ok......try a known starter. I have pulled one off a running vehicle to test before.  Check ground?) Pain in the a$$, but you have to eliminate each component.

That's all I can think of. A 305 shouldn't have a great amount of compression to over come, cold or hot. Good luck!
 
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