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Title: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 01, 2013, 02:30:20 AM
 Bringing her home. (12-20-2009)


Had it in storage for a few months. I cleaned it up and painted it flat black cause I was giving it to my dad but he didn't want it.


Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: logride on December 01, 2013, 07:39:08 AM
Hey that's a good looking car. What are your plans for it?
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on December 01, 2013, 08:03:06 AM
Rattiac,
Looks like a real solid car.  Should be a sweet ride!  I guess you're glad your Dad didn't want it.  :)  Looking forward to the build.
Tom
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 01, 2013, 11:15:52 AM
My plans are to keep it as stock as safely possible, aside from the drivetrain but I wont be cutting the body in any way . Something told me this car was special or rare and shouldn't be messed with  I already have a engine/trans lined up for it till one day when I can afford to rebuild the original 6 and put a 5-speed behind it. Not even gonna lower it. Done that been there.
I also have a small teardrop trailer I plan on pulling behind it for long trips.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 05, 2013, 12:52:20 AM
Update

 I got some work done before we moved from our first home (RDA)
 I aquired some 54 spindles sent em' to get machined (Somehow the rod-shop lost em) so I now have a pair of Speedway's  fordged spindles with
 73 camaro disc's and some new leafsprings up front.
(update)
Had a machinist hog out the axle to get the spindles to adapt. But Ive read somewere that you can use a reamer from Harbor Freight and do it yourself.

 I also found some 36 chevy truck rear fenders for $ 20 . They are a bit beat up but they'll work for now . I was told by the guy that 32 to 36 rear fenders are about the same. They do match the body lines well and I bought some tires that were on a 46 chevy (only 2000 miles on em')
7.60/15's paid $80

 Teardown pics. (3-23-2010)


Broken leafspring repaired with a army belt.( Who knows how long someone drove on that)


Heres the new springs and spindles. Just in time to move

Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 05, 2013, 01:04:58 AM
I moved into another house but this time I had a garage and a shop in the back. It was awhile before I could get back to it but was able to get these.

Wheels
(3-24-2010)
 I ended up getting these wheels at the local pik n pull . they wanted to charge me $ 5 for each wheel and $15.99 a tire. Thats $ 80.00 total . So I slashed the tires and walked away with 4 wheels for $23.00 .Take that pik n pull.
 They are 1988 Caprice 15x7's . I took the wheels/tires down to a local (Wrench-it) center and mounted my own wheels for $ 32.50. cant beat that especially since a total of 8 wheels got dismounted. Used to be a tire-buster back in the day .


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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on December 05, 2013, 07:13:08 AM
Love that Army belt to hold the suspension together :).  What type of shocks will you be installing?  I notice the old ones still in place.
Tom
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: themoose on December 05, 2013, 08:52:41 AM
Those old Pontiac's have great lines. I especially like the grill. The new front disks look like they should really get the job done.

Moose
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 05, 2013, 11:40:22 PM
Im gonna keep the original shocks. This car has what is called "Ride Control" and the shocks are adjustable with a pull/push knob inside the cab .
Here's a cool link about 32 Pontiacs. Mine is the 402 series.
http://www.earlytimeschapter.org/1932.html
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 05, 2013, 11:50:23 PM
parts (5-26-2010)

 Went to the swapmeet/carshow the other day and scored some headlights for $30 (new still on box), an old rusty license plate and a taillight wich I thought was GM but was dodge so I sold it.

Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 05, 2013, 11:52:22 PM
Pontiac Caps (6-1-2010)

 Seen these in the local classifieds and had to have em'. 75$
 Perfect for the look im going for .


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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 07, 2013, 02:12:49 AM
V.V. Front windshield
I was starting to wonder what this knob above the windshield was for.....

I  found out the car came with all the options and it has the VV (vision ventalation) windshield . as in the windshield rolls up a few inches from the bottom. I went to some Antique sites and was told Id never get it working and should leave it alone (something about pot metal) . So I removed the header board and seperated it , then soaked it in PB Blaster came back every few days gently taping it till it started to move.
I think its just the handle made of potmetal not the internal gears.
Works great. just need some glass now.


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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: themoose on December 07, 2013, 09:12:00 AM
Rattiac

You'll be glad you got your windshield to work. I don't know if your rear window rolls down but the 32 Chevy coupe does and with both the front and back windows open its better than A/C :-*

Moose

Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 07, 2013, 08:46:26 PM
well, the rear window dosent roll down but... it also has the cowl vent to get air onto the floor.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 08, 2013, 02:49:22 AM
Got this for my B-day.  (6-22-2010)


Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 08, 2013, 02:51:43 AM
Replacing wood with steel.        (7-19-2010)

 Getting ready to replace some wood with steel. Did a ton of measuring and made a template or two. I'll start on the 2 long rails that support the body and go from there.
 Steel should be in by friday. Here's a pic of what im up against.

Ever since I got this car I've been spraying PB Blaster all over the place . Hinges,Window cranks,ect. When I havent been able to work on it . So far Ive got every door handle and window cranks to work properly.

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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 08, 2013, 02:54:28 AM
Turning wood into steel.    (9-27-2010)

 Got the steel in a few weeks ago and was able to make some cuts for the main rails

Thats about $120 worth of steel then I got a Habor freight chop saw (about $ 50 w/ warrenty) . Its slow cutting but keeping the RPMs up is key.
 I'll go into what size of steel I bought and why in a few post's
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 08, 2013, 03:00:52 AM
Wood to steel : 101  (11-16-2010)

 While the car has been sitting . Ive had some time to stare at it and think about how I was gonna tackle this part of the project. I decided to copy the wood to a certain extent ( weird shapes and all) , and try to keep it simple.

 I started off measuring the thickness of the wood (keep in mind this effects hieght of the body


 Then I measured the width of the wood near the doors.


Front door, the wood also gets wider here.


Then in the back the main rail ends, with this small rail ontop of it follows the rear wheel-well.(tape indicates the end)


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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 08, 2013, 03:05:40 AM
Part 2.
 From there I came up with these sizes of steel. 1-1/2 x 4" and 1-1/2 x 3" rectangular steel. (1/8" wall)
 The 4 Incher will be the main flat rail and the 3 incher is the rocker that will be welded to the side of the main rail in a (L shape).
 Here I started making a pattern. I first drew out the measurements of the wood then placed the steel on top, centerd it up and cut out the pattern.


The pattern is where the main rail will lay and the dotted line is where the 3" width rail will be welded on the side.


Example in pic 3



 Went to harbor freight and got some 4-1/2" cut-off wheels for my grinder. converted it and hacked away. cuts better than I thought it would.
 Main rails. front is to the right of the pic.


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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 08, 2013, 03:10:26 AM
Wood to steel : 101

 if you can tell in this pic the side rail has an under-cut to it. This is why I choose these sizes in steel, since I couldnt replicate this odd shape. the steel wont come out as far as the wood but will still be able to tack the rocker panel in place


Here I sprayed some white paint down and drew the rocker shape.




Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 08, 2013, 03:13:25 AM
Wood to steel : 101           (11-21-2010)

 I was able to get the rest of the steel cut.

 A pic of what it will look like with all the pieces. (stool indicates Drivers front)


Got the body bracing laid out. (using 1" square)


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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: themoose on December 08, 2013, 06:52:16 AM
Rattiac

It looks like your technique for replacing the wood will work out really well. I look forward to seeing it come together.

Moose
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: EDNY on December 08, 2013, 07:02:49 AM
Looks you have that portion well planned...that will be a great foundation for the rest of the framing.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on December 08, 2013, 12:03:09 PM
Looks like you got a good start.  Some of the wood pieces look a lot like the ones I replaced on my 33 Chevy.  Keep up the good work.
Tom
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 08, 2013, 07:32:45 PM
Thanks everyone. This part had to be done cause you could actually feel the body move when we pushed it into the shop.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 08, 2013, 07:38:13 PM
Wood to steel : 101  (12-4-2010)

 Pulled the motor/trans today. I did this so I could slide in the steel rails in without pulling the body completely off the frame. The plan is to do this one side at a time with the engine hoist holding up that side of the body.

 On with the pics and off with the hood & grill.


My dad gave me these H.F. rollers he used to manuver his boat around. One was bent a bit , So I used em' to put the motor/ trans on and it rolls around easy.


Oh yeah. I was looking at the horn and the inside looked clean. So I pulled it off and tested it on a battery. It works . awesome.

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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 08, 2013, 07:46:05 PM
Wood to steel , Part 3  (1-9-2011)

 Ive got the main rails ready to go in (silver) and the rockers welded up (unpainted).

I used my arc welder to weld them up so I could save gas on my little mig. (for bracing)
 Havent arc welded since high-school days. I could get a bead going but I didnt look like a roll of dimes, oh well , good practice


Body is all braced up.
 I knocked out the rockers first B-4 I braced it up. The new rockers will go in after the main rails.


Also tack-welded the doors in a few spots


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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 08, 2013, 07:54:25 PM
Pic of gap where rockers used to be.

New rails install. (2-15-2011)

Used the engine hoist to hold up the body while I slid in each rail.

No more wood.....

Rails slid in.


Rear.


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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on December 08, 2013, 07:57:37 PM
Wow nice work!  You're on a mission :)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 08, 2013, 07:58:42 PM
Final floor steel.. (2-21-2011)

 Rockers were mocked up and drilled access holes for 3 big sheetmetal screws to attach em' to the main rails. This way they can be removed if need be.
 I will put a few weld beads up at the top for an extra measure.

Painted and bolted on.

Rockers slip right on and tacked into place.

This has stiffened the body up a ton. I used to hear rust crunching if I pushed on the body at the wrong spot when we would push it in/out the shop. Now no movement at all.


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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 08, 2013, 08:09:52 PM
Next item on the list .

The Roof.    (2-27-2011)

 And now Im gonna start on the roof cuz thats the next bad section of wood that needs to be fixed. Plus I dont want a rusty nail to fall on my head.
 I made a template of the curve the roof has then started knocking out wood.

My boss gave me some scrap bends left over from 3rd seats that we build. They work out about perfect. In the front they were dead on.

In the back I'll have to decrease the bend a bit to work.


I also got some parts shopping done . Wait till ya see what I brought home.

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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: logride on December 08, 2013, 08:40:28 PM
It's looking good!  What's the other classic Chevy in your picture?
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sixball on December 08, 2013, 09:31:16 PM
Thanks for posting this. Replacing the wood is what worries me the most about my build and it is just a little roadster that has almost all of the wood to use for patterns and measurements. I know that once I start it will become more clear. Your explanation and pictures are a big help. Your work is pretty darn good too! ;D
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 09, 2013, 12:08:25 AM
Oh, That's my '80 Chevette . A few years ago I put a 231 V6, TH350, 8" ford rear in it . It made a fun and fast daily driver for a few years.

Well Im glad this may help someone out. Most of this I figured out by myself but following the K.I.S.S. method seemed to be the way to go. I wished I had known about this site sooner. I felt like a black sheep surrounded by ford's and whatnot.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 09, 2013, 12:26:19 AM
Back to the roof.

 Here's the hoop all welded up.

The wood arches I made for the bends.

I finnally got the roof (hoop) bent up . Tried heating it up but wouldnt stay bent . So my boss and I bent it up cold (on a table). Clamped down one side then started bending every 6 inches +- Till it matched up with the patterns

Front section without wood. There are some steel gussets in the corners. Also tied into the steel
brackets on the sides.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 09, 2013, 12:30:52 AM
I set it in and found I needed to tweek it in some places.
 Also had to bend some archs from side to side , So I placed one end under a tire from my other car and used a 2x4 block of wood then stepped on the other end. (using wood is more forgiving and produces a more round bend)

Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 09, 2013, 12:34:43 AM
Roof Done.

 Did a quick tune up on the lil-mig and its all welded up.
 I tied it into the existing metal braces also.

I put a "soft-top channel" (from a Wrangler) in the front for a rag top that I can roll up.



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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 09, 2013, 12:41:49 AM
What I brought home..  (5-22-2011)

 Parts Shopping :
 Found this Walker Radiator in the local classifieds for $350. Its for a ford but it was the right width and only an inch short on the height. It was new condition. The guy that owned it thought it was too heavy for his racey T-bucket.

After looking all winter for a S-10   10-bolt w/3.73's and 59" width , I gave up and found this Ford 8.8 rear w/3.73 limited-slip for $150 . Its a 93 ranger rear with a 58.5 width (WMS) .

I learned form my last build and chose an axle I wasnt gonna have to dump a ton of dough into to get it adapted.

 A local speed shop switched the bolt pattern for only $ 70 . Great guys.
 He said it was one of the easiest rears to work with . No machining/welding required , just drilling.


Just checking measurements. Looking good.
 The original spring perches were almost dead on , too bad there on the wrong side .
 Oh well. Pick up some new one's this week.


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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 09, 2013, 01:03:25 AM
Rear-End  (7-5-2011)

 Preped up the Ford 8.8 to install .
 (torched and ground off all the old mounts , beveled the spring pads , and so on.)


Out with the old............

In with the new.

Gonna adapt some new bumpstops to the old bracket.


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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 09, 2013, 01:05:58 AM
Rear

 To adapt the old shocks (ride-control)
 I cut the orginal bracket off as close to the bushings as possible then got a sway-bar bushing kit , some 3" length bolts and welded the shock-rod to the top of the bolts.
 (see red bushings)
 Mounts up just like stock.

Talk about a perfect width .
 Within a 1/2" to the edge of the running board.
 (Pontiac wide-track now)

Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: logride on December 09, 2013, 08:57:19 AM
Great job on the roof surround! I'm interested on seeing how the sliding top works that is a great idea.

I used a 4.3 in the 27 because of the short engine compartment. Originally I wanted to buy a Cosworth Vega engine for it that a good friend of mine has. They look so cool with the aftermarket side drafts and the big tube SS header coming out the other side. It would be great for a open wheel lakes style car

In the end I'm so happy with the V6 700r4 combo. Plenty of power like you had in your chevette

Good score on the radiator. Money well spent.

Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: ghost28 on December 09, 2013, 07:23:17 PM
Really nice work. On the forged spindles what were they from and how hard was it to get them to fit the  73 camaro parts?
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: woodremover on December 09, 2013, 08:52:33 PM
when trying to put a slight bend in steel ,such as your roof bracket's
heat the steel on one side and cool it in water .It will bend gently and keep it's shape
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: EDNY on December 09, 2013, 09:28:41 PM
Isn't that top hose on the Walker radiator on the GM side....
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 10, 2013, 12:02:36 AM
Ghost;
The spindles were from Speedway and the rotors fit perfectly. I'll post more on the brakes in the next few days.

Wood;
Thanks for the good info.

EDNY;
I think so. It worked well .
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 10, 2013, 01:04:18 AM
Brakes  (8-17-2011)

 I mocked up my master cylinder , checked pedal travel , and so on.

 Mount all welded up .

 ( I used a rod from the mechanical brake system as a support since it was thick and strong )
 I was out of flat stuff anyway.

Master cylinder and combo valve bolted up , ran all the brake lines , welded up a M/C push-rod also.

Top view .


Spec's :
 73 camaro (manual) master cylinder and rotors/calipers , 85 camaro combo valve .
 I didnt put any residual valves in cuz im not lowered and the combo valve helps in slippery conditions . (google it)
 I plan on running this car cross country . I guess we will see if there's any hicc-ups , but it should work.

 I wished I could of lowered the pedal back an inch or so ( to give better steering wheel to leg room )
 but it took the whole 1 - 1/2 inch of travel the pedal had , with a tad of freeplay (1/16')

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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 10, 2013, 01:13:00 AM
(10-17-2011)
Well after figuring out that the rod-shop screwed up and ordered the wrong brackets
 Speedway swaped em' out no problem (even after I had them for 2 yrs ).
 So now with all the correct parts , I have the 11" intermediate GM kit for thier fordged 54 spindles.
 The car originally had the tie-rod bar behind the axle but it interfered with the the calipers so I moved it to the front wich helped cuz now the steering stop now touches like it susposed to do .
You can see how I ran the brakeline also .

 Brake lines installed.
 ( I routed the hard-line this way so they wouldnt get burned up when I weld in the
 motor-mount crossmember)
 The rubber-line mount welded up just below the shock resivour . Plenty of travel and no rubbing form the draglink.
rear brake-line to the 8.8 ford axle.


Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 10, 2013, 01:24:04 AM
Brakes done ............... (11-1-2011)
but chasing a few leaks .
 I ended up changing some adapters on the m/c  , and then putting (alum) washers on BOTH sides of the brake-hose .(ditched the copper washers)  That cured the leaks. Bought some speed-bleeders for the rear.
 Still gotta bleed the fronts when I get an extra hand , but for now I cracked the fronts open and left em' for the night. Works for now and theres good pressure in the pedal .
 Might push it out of the garage and give it a very low speed test.
 (again another helping hand )

 When I ordered the calipers in I got a few things I needed just to get it running .
 A 15" mechanical Fan and a floor shifter.
I odered this from Jegs : universal floor shifter ( $ 37) used for columm to floor coversions.
 its 14 1/2 " tall and the mech junk is under the floor. Just a basic shifter .
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 10, 2013, 01:31:44 AM
Windows.
Since there was downtime between shipping I had some tinted Lexan we found in the garage when we moved in .
There was a full sheet of dark tint (20%) that I used for the rear 3 windows and some already cut up sheets with lighter tint (35%) that were used for the doors , they were about 2 inches short but who cares they were free .

I finally got the fronts bled with help from my son . Then we pushed the car out and tested the brakes .It snowed that morning (1/2") . Good ,that's some real world testing .

 The IROC proportioning valve did its job with no rear-brake lock-up on slippery surfaces .
It all works great.


 I spent the day cleaning shop and then got ready for the next phase :
 The MOTOR / TRANS install .

 ;D 8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: themoose on December 10, 2013, 08:58:17 AM
Rattiac

I'm really enjoying this build thread.....Keep um coming!!!

Moosew
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: logride on December 10, 2013, 09:27:35 AM
Great progress! I like that your using the stock pedal.

How does the shifter mount?

Speedway gets some flack on the HAMB for being the Walmart of parts, but I have had nothing but good experiences with them. 1 shackle quality problem that I returned. No problem.

Again they have The best automotive museum in the world. If your going cross country on I 80 check their web site to see when it's open and plan on going.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on December 10, 2013, 12:35:58 PM
Thanks for posting your build.  Great pictures and commentary.  Very interesting.
Tom
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on December 10, 2013, 07:33:09 PM
Rattiac, you are really busting out on this. It's fun to watch.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 12, 2013, 01:02:18 AM
Glad you guys are enjoying the build  :). I'll be getting to that shifter soon.

Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 12, 2013, 01:14:32 AM
(12-30-2011)
The motor /trans coming out of the Chevette . A while after this I sold the chevette with the V-6 kit and 8" rear. Wasn't intending to,  but the guy really wanted it. Figured it was one less project to have sitting around.

Engine / Trans install
Used a v-6 crossmember motor mount from speedway. Arc welded that in  .

 Since this 231 had only 12,000 miles on it (since I rebuilt it) and it was a Pontiac block it seemed like fate.
 I tried using the stock exhaust manifolds but they hit the steering box and passenger frame-rail , So I found these Heddman Hedders from summit for a late 70's camaro . Fits much better.

Now I gotta get the radiator in the shell and get the hood on.
Ended up ditching that crappy bun filter .
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 12, 2013, 01:27:39 AM
(1-3-2012)
 I got the radiator in to the shell. Who knew a model A radiator would fit so well in a GM grill.


Put the hood , headlights back on . Its been sooooooo  long .

The headers did touch on the drivers side but the hood was pushed in a bit , So I pushed it back out and the only thing that touches is the latch when I unlock it to open it .


Gotta love those gills



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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 13, 2013, 09:02:00 PM
 I fabbed up an under the floor battery-box , gonna finish it up. I had Maaco quote me to pull the dent out of the gas-tank , they wanted $ 170. Yeah right. I could buy the tool for $ 99 at harbor freight and pull the dent myself . The radiator shop quoted $175 to clean and seal it .
 HAa . Speedway $ 70 .
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 13, 2013, 09:05:27 PM
Ordered up a tank cleaner/repair kit from summit , good price.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-900056-3/
 Went to pick up a stud welder from harbor-freight but they were out of stock for a week or two.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: themoose on December 13, 2013, 09:08:36 PM
Wow Rattiac.....You don't waste any time. Really shaping up. For $170 Maaco should gold plate that tank!
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 13, 2013, 09:10:29 PM
Battery box is in. (4-22-2012)


I wasnt able to find any original taillight(s) but it looked real close to these
 Model A taillights (LED) only they are a bit smaller. Close enuf.


Made a small mount for the right taillight.





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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 13, 2013, 09:13:05 PM
Wow Rattiac.....You don't waste any time. Really shaping up. For $170 Maaco should gold plate that tank!

Yeah. and the radiator shop wanted to cut it in half to get to the dent.
 No way, I said "I'll do it myself".
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 13, 2013, 09:22:04 PM
This tank had plenty of dirt , beehives and trash in it. I filled it full of water to get the stuff I couldnt get out and drained it .
 I was told to fill it with water before welding to prevent explosion by a mechanic that works on the power company trucks.

Gas-Tank

 Some progress on the gas tank. (5-2-2012)
 Pulling the dent out .

Found a pinhole after spraying some etching primer.
 Ground it down and hit it with the mig . No more pinhole.

Here it is all cleaned, sealed and painted. The sealer took about 2 weeks to fully cure (no solvent smell) .

Since I needed a sender unit before re- installing the tank I ordered up some custom gauges from Classic Instruments.
 This is where the fun begins. Its almost thrash time .


I forgot to mention that most of the work has already been done. That's why it seems like im cruising through this .

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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 13, 2013, 09:29:46 PM
(6-4-2012)
Here's the delux sending unit classic sent me . After measuring and adjusting the sending unit to the tank depth I had to hog-out the hole to get it installed so I vaccumed out what metal shavings I could , then used a magnet , then washed it out with gas a few times . I'll be running 2 filters just to make sure. 1 huge flter underneath and a smaller filter before the carb.

ready for the install.

Made my own tank-straps for $ 9.00
 The original strap on top.

Gas-tank installed and fuel-line is ran to the pump and carb.

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I ended up pulling the tank and redoing the straps it just wasnt fitting right at the filler neck.
 Took about 1/2 or more out of the straps and its fits right now. Picked up some battery cable and exhaust pieces. Also sending the driveshaft in too .

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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 13, 2013, 09:40:35 PM
Driveline, Exhaust and battery cables (7-14-2012)

 Here's the exhaust ready to mock-up . Made up a wire template and  had 2 pieces bent up for me, drivers side pipe and tail-pipe.
 Y- pipe and a 25" glasspack all ready to weld.

Collector pipes welded.

Had to grind the flanges to clear sparkplug boots

Driveline , exhaust , battery cables all done.

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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 13, 2013, 09:42:36 PM
Here's a cool view from under the fender.

Not bad for my own built exhaust . Since the shops around here charge way too much for hotrods.



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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: logride on December 13, 2013, 10:04:56 PM
It's looking good! I like the exhaust.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 14, 2013, 03:15:43 AM
Picked up some (16ga) sheet-metal to get started on the floor. Front and rear pieces are cut out . A guy by my work is gonna let me use his brake but...That fell thru , so I ended up paying someone to bend it . (10-15-2012)


I called speedway and ordered what should be the last of the parts I need to get her going .
 Light switch, turn signal w/ dummie loads for LED's, Brake light switch, Gas pedal (spoon), Dimmer switch w/ pigtail , and two 4inch peep mirrors.
 Workin on the floor right now , getting access doors cut for the battery and brakes.
 Even put the seat in to get that all mocked up and holes drilled.


 Started on the front floor but realized it needed a brace under the seat, so looking back at my wood photos I put a brace where the original was. Also painted the rails with dark-rust (rustoleum) so when I put the floor on top it will help blend it into the rusty rockers.

I did the floor in 3 sections . Front , back then riveted in the middle on top of the other 2.
 Also bolted in the seatbelts to the frame.


 Had a few bends put in so it was just like stock. I didnt like how the floor was kinda weak near the battery door so the part I cut out I welded underneath in the middle. now its nice and strong.


 Front section: access door made for the brakes. Toeboard, shifter and original E-brake installed.
 Used a mechanical brake switch with a lil chain hooked up to the pedal .

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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 14, 2013, 03:25:26 AM
Rear floor.
I had a slight up-angle put in and the rear section has a 2 inch kickup.
 Plenty of access for the battery.

Rear seat installed. Dodge caravan seats work out pefectly . I still have enuf room behind the seat to put in 2 6x9 speakers. Gotta have some tunes. someday.

The bulldog checking out his new seat while I hog out the holes in the dash a tiny bit.

Getting the dash ready.

Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 14, 2013, 03:28:51 AM
Oh theres more.......

 I had to have some custom E-brake cables made since Ford ranger/explorer were way too long . So at $ 55 a side I had these made up . Kinda spendy but had no other options.

Spoon throttle pedal installed.

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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 14, 2013, 03:33:59 AM
And finally onto the wiring .
(10-16-2012)
 After going over everything. Making sure I had all switches, connectors and reading the manual about 150 times. I started on the wiring.
 Here's the fusebox mounted. Looks easy enuf . He, he.
 I decided this was a no-rush area that I wanted perfect, so if it took a few weekends it was no big deal to me.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/WiringcherokeeMMP012.jpg) (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RockRacer1/media/WiringcherokeeMMP012.jpg.html)

Actually it wasnt that bad. I had more trouble with the timing than anything.

 Engine bay all done and ready to loom.
 Made sure it was all nice and neat.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/WiringcherokeeMMP027.jpg) (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RockRacer1/media/WiringcherokeeMMP027.jpg.html)

Front section I decided to run up the passenger side cause I figured I had enuf things in the drivers side framerail . Just seperating sides at the moment but it all got ran into the fender mounts. Again lots of loom . I dont want a wire rubbing on anything.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/WiringcherokeeMMP028.jpg) (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RockRacer1/media/WiringcherokeeMMP028.jpg.html)


 Here's the dash getting ready to be wired. Looks scary dosent it. Organized Kaos.
 Yea, I ate lunch in the car already.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/WiringcherokeeMMP030.jpg) (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RockRacer1/media/WiringcherokeeMMP030.jpg.html)


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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 14, 2013, 03:37:25 AM
The dash

 Here's the dash all done with a really nice and exspensive set of Classic gauges .
 I wanted the gauges to be as original as I could get and didnt want to cut any holes.
 So the only thing I had to do was hog out the 2 big holes just slightly. I am really pleased
 with how it turned out and hope I did this Pontiac proud .
 I also wired in one of those cool chrome turn signal switches.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/WiringcherokeeMMP031.jpg) (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RockRacer1/media/WiringcherokeeMMP031.jpg.html)
I still need to put in 2 switches for dome light, ect and the choke cable got installed later.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on December 16, 2013, 11:32:41 AM
Man, you are flying on this car!! Looking good.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 16, 2013, 09:31:49 PM
Well. This work was done last winter/spring. I was in a rush to get this done in time for the Lincoln Highway trip (Hwy #1) that was coming through Utah in June. I'll post more on this later .
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 16, 2013, 09:36:49 PM
Fired up and a test drive.

 Well after getting it all wired . It fired up on the 3rd of October 2012 . That weekend we went camping to celebrate . The next sunday I took it for a spin around the block. Found a oil leak and fixed it . I drove great, alot softer ride than I thought it would have but im cool with that. Almost ran it outta gas all 2 gall of it.
 I still had a bunch of things to do. I have a RR taillight thats constantly on and I havent put the headlights or front bumper on yet. Needs a windsheid and some other cosmetic things such as paint and I need to sew up a top for it..........Oh also build a hitch to pull the teardrop .
 but Im so happy its running.
 Now Ive gotta clean the shop and do some home fixes . That may take a few weeks. LIFE

I snapped this pic before the wiring. Just got lucky. He dosent sit still for long.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/WiringcherokeeMMP007.jpg) (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RockRacer1/media/WiringcherokeeMMP007.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 16, 2013, 09:41:18 PM
I fixed the brake lights and they now work properly. I had to turn the switch up-side down and convert it to a push-system instead of pull.
 Also fixed a leak or two. So no more leaks .
 Its gonna sit for a few weeks to make way for some other projects but when I get back to it I'll post up some start-up video and more pics.




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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 16, 2013, 09:45:41 PM
Front Bumper

 Gotta work on it a bit a few weeks later .
 The 3 front bumper bolts were broke off inside the frame (except 1) . I tried using an extractor kit to get em' out but the drill bit started going sideaways.
 So I cut down some 1/2inch bolts and welded them on to create studs to mount the bumper to.
Had to straighten the bumper out at work,  but its a lot better than it was.

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/2013008_zpsb58a096b.jpg) (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RockRacer1/media/2013008_zpsb58a096b.jpg.html)


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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 16, 2013, 10:00:14 PM
Here's a pic when I was getting it ready for its first drive.

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/WiringcherokeeMMP014_zpsce4c55fc.jpg) (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RockRacer1/media/WiringcherokeeMMP014_zpsce4c55fc.jpg.html)

First drive video. Did a small burnout too . (click on vid)
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/th_32Pontiacfirststartanddrive_zps13de6439.jpg) (http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32Pontiacfirststartanddrive_zps13de6439.mp4)



Also picked this up a month earlier.
Bought it cheaper than I could build one. That's OK, didnt need another project anyway.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/teardrop009.jpg) (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RockRacer1/media/teardrop009.jpg.html)

Done some work to it. Painted the frame black added some moab stickers and put a bed in it.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/MyMoab2012100-1.jpg) (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RockRacer1/media/MyMoab2012100-1.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 16, 2013, 10:06:41 PM
The test drive was awesome. Im sure that car hasnt been driven in 40 years at least.
 It rode nice and smooth. The small burnout was fun .
 Now back to business.
 I had 6 weeks to go get on the road for the Lincoln Highway trip and here's the shi#!-list.

 1.)Windshield-
 2.)Lights and markers mounted
 3.)Wiring- I have a few wires left over I'll have to tie up (radio, cigarette lighter, heater,wipers, ect)

 4.) Install front bench and passenger front window.
 5.) Re rattle can the paint.
 6.) Bolt down the rear fenders.
 7.) Torque down all suspension and steering
 8.) Alignment
 9.) Get insurance and pass safety inspection .
 10.) Make a hitch to hook-up the teardrop .

 Then hit the road . :) At least that's what I thought.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 16, 2013, 10:21:37 PM
Lincoln Highway plans

 I was hoping to get the 32 all legal by then so I could take it on Lincoln Hwy on the 25th but when I talked to the DMV that week  they sent me a packet to fill out . Once I get it filled out and send in some "before pics" then it will take 30-90 days to do a history check thoughout the U.S. Looking for liens, last registered, previous owners, ect .
 Oh and I have to have a cop look at it and do some sort of paperwork to send in also .
 After all that is done I can get the saftey inspection done .
 Im bummed out but looking foward to see what the history is on this car .

 As for the Lincoln hwy trip . I still went . I just took the jeep and got some pics when I met up with them on the long dirt road back to the city .
Here's a link . http://www.lincolnhighwayassoc.org/

Here's what inspired me for the Lincoln Hwy. When we went camping we saw this monument and when I took the car on its first test drive I was shocked at how soft the suspension was and it seemed perfect for this trip.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/WhiteRocks004.jpg) (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RockRacer1/media/WhiteRocks004.jpg.html)
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/WhiteRocks005.jpg) (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RockRacer1/media/WhiteRocks005.jpg.html)

Here's a few pics from the trip. This was just as they entered Utah from Neveda heading east.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/LincolnHwy029_zps618e0745.jpg) (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RockRacer1/media/LincolnHwy029_zps618e0745.jpg.html)
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/LincolnHwy032_zps157e4dd3.jpg) (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RockRacer1/media/LincolnHwy032_zps157e4dd3.jpg.html)
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/LincolnHwy020_zpsbe154805.jpg) (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RockRacer1/media/LincolnHwy020_zpsbe154805.jpg.html)

I thought this was soooooo cool cause you just don't see old cars on dirt roads anymore.
That's what they were built for . Tough because most roads at the time were dirt or mud.


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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 16, 2013, 10:29:35 PM
Paperwork

 I finally sent in all the paperwork. It took me awhile cause I couldn't find my bill of sale . So I called the previous owner and when he got back in town we made a new B.O.S.
 Had a cop come over and do a VIN inspection but had to clean and paint the VIN to make it readable . Sent in about 6 pics of the tags/vin and condtion of the car before restoration.
 So I hope this all goes well with no hiccups. I'll probably hear something on it in the next few months .

 Here's a pic of the other airfilter I have on it . I don't hate it but it wont stay . Just a normal round filter should look like it belongs. I also couldn't stand the silver valve covers so I made em' look rusty. much better .:)
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32pontiac011_zps6aae3228.jpg) (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RockRacer1/media/32pontiac011_zps6aae3228.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 16, 2013, 10:34:23 PM
Well I finally received the Title in the mail  .It only took 2 months
 No history on it . But Oh'well    ITS MINE, ITS ALL MINE . :)

Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 16, 2013, 10:42:36 PM
Took the 32 to get an alignment. Rented a dolly. That was an adventure in itself.
 Steers much better now and dosent fold the wheel when I turn left.
 Theres still one issue he told me about. The wheels turn too fast for the steering box.
 He said I may need to modify my steering arms (drill a hole to bring the tie-rod in closer)
 to slow down the speed it steers.
(Later I found out it was the steering arm for the draglink that's too short)
I'll address this later. I may have to cut/weld the arm and extend it an inch .

 The camber problem I had is now gone and the tires are nice and straight .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32alignment_zps8627c84c.jpg) (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RockRacer1/media/32alignment_zps8627c84c.jpg.html)

later I drove it over to the gas station. Got it up to 45 with no issues . Drove nice and straight.
Funny thing about a car that's flat-black. Everybody looks but nobody approached me asking questions. Big difference from having a painted car.


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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 16, 2013, 10:57:23 PM
During the downtime.
 This has given me a chance to do some major clean-up in the shop. Its a disaster zone in here but, I know where every tool is .
 I got kinda distracted when I had one side clean and started on the top and hitch.

 Using a jeep channel for the front of the top. I layed out some measurements and I'll sew in the little plastic piece wich will go into the channel.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32pontiac001_zpsc3d6796c.jpg) (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RockRacer1/media/32pontiac001_zpsc3d6796c.jpg.html)

Im using truck taunue material since it has no stretch. When the hot sun hits, it wont get loose over time.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32pontiac005_zps3ec1a1b5.jpg) (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RockRacer1/media/32pontiac005_zps3ec1a1b5.jpg.html)

Took it outside to let the sun heat up the material. Flipped it over to mark the frame demensions from the inside.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/LilMoab019_zps5080c31e.jpg) (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RockRacer1/media/LilMoab019_zps5080c31e.jpg.html)

That's about as far on that as I got for awhile.

 Then I started making a hitch to pull the teardrop.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32pontiac004_zpse053d661.jpg) (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RockRacer1/media/32pontiac004_zpse053d661.jpg.html)

 Gotta cut out where the bumper will bolt on top. This will get sandwiched between the bumper and frame with other reinforcements later .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32pontiac003_zpsd531ae47.jpg) (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RockRacer1/media/32pontiac003_zpsd531ae47.jpg.html)

This is where im currently at on the build. Ran out of money and have to get my other jeep ready to sell this next month or 2.
I'll keep ya posted this spring when it gets a windshield and registered.
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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on December 19, 2013, 11:44:31 AM
I have one question.........when do you sleep?
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sixball on December 19, 2013, 02:30:58 PM
Man, You distracted me for a few hours with the Lincoln Highway link. The second alignment runs through here as well as the Pony Express Route and the Carson River Route of the Emigrant Trail. I drive parts of the Lincoln Highway every day but I will alter my route to Bonneville next year to cover that 1913 dirt road stretch. How much of the tour did you do? I love your Pontiac. You are inspiring.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 21, 2013, 11:47:19 PM
I started about 9am. and entered the route at Faust heading west hoping to meet up with them at about the half-way mark. It appered they left late also because I didn't see them till I passed Ibapa almost at the end of the dirt road as they entered Utah. So I couldn't follow them back because I needed gas and was closer to Wendover . So I took pics as they passed by. I was quite a site, they had about 20+ vehicles and some support rigs.
Not sure if there's a tour this next year . I'll e-mail the director. But Im gonna try it anyway in Utah. Coming down from Wendover then head back to slc on dirt.
Id also like to drive to Speedweek and see the craziness rod's, races, ect. Maybe I'll blend both trips into one and do that on the way back form speedweek.

I have been getting some sleep now that the build is stuck on hold.

Here's a pic of the long dirt road ,  looking from Simpson springs.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/LincolnHwy017_zps2c5f3d63.jpg) (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RockRacer1/media/LincolnHwy017_zps2c5f3d63.jpg.html)


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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 22, 2013, 12:20:25 AM
I just noticed the video isn't working a few post's above . I'll fix that.



Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sixball on December 22, 2013, 12:02:45 PM
I bet it wasn't that nice in 1913. Driving the little roads is my favorite part of traveling. I've been on 66 from end to end and I would love to do the longer Lincoln Highway too. Maybe when the roadster is done. I can not imagine driving in NYC in a '26 Chevy roadster.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: ghost28 on December 22, 2013, 07:30:40 PM
Man that looks like fun I like driving the back roads, and THAT'S THE BACK ROADS with flair. That pontiac is so cool.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on January 01, 2014, 10:03:43 PM
During the downtime and other projects in the way I was able to work on the Headlight stands.
Cant get em' chromed yet,  so I just wire-wheeled  and polished em on the buffer at work.
(left is untouched) right is polished.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/LilMoab001_zps6383db3e.jpg) (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RockRacer1/media/LilMoab001_zps6383db3e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: EDNY on January 01, 2014, 11:38:45 PM
During the downtime and other projects in the way I was able to work on the Headlight stands.
Cant get em' chromed yet,  so I just wire-wheeled  and polished em on the buffer at work.
(left is untouched) right is polished.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/LilMoab001_zps6383db3e.jpg) (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RockRacer1/media/LilMoab001_zps6383db3e.jpg.html)

Home powder coating is another option.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on January 06, 2014, 11:02:33 PM
The patinia will do for now .
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on January 29, 2014, 09:00:40 PM
Finally got my videos to work again.
Heres the first test drive. (and a small burnout).
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/th_32Pontiacfirststartanddrive_zps678ff70f.jpg) (http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32Pontiacfirststartanddrive_zps678ff70f.mp4)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: logride on January 29, 2014, 09:40:40 PM
That's cool! Hope you get lots of miles on it.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on January 29, 2014, 10:47:01 PM
Cool ride, hopefully the first of many more!
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sixball on January 30, 2014, 12:49:59 AM
A milestone. I hope to do that someday.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on March 04, 2014, 11:44:35 PM
Alright got some funds together. Should be going in for a windshield here in a few weeks. Then just after my 4x4 trip, getting back to work on it. Lets see. Here's the shi#!-list .
1.) Windshield
2.) E-brake cables install
3.) bolt in front bench
4.) figure out where to mount the peep mirrors (up high or factory location)
5.) bolt down rear fenders and bolt to running boards
6.) tidy up loose wires under dash
7.) "A SUPRISE" but has to do with front fenders.
8.) Headlights
9.) Finish sewing up top w/ snaps and Velcro
10.) Weld up hitch
11.) Go get inspected and register .
THATS ALL ... I THINK

I want to have this on the road by June for its first carshow and the local Lincoln Hwy assc is having a event here and don't want to miss that.

Damn, its been awhile since Ive started it up . Better do that this weekend .
I really need to quit going wheeling sooo much.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: ghost28 on March 06, 2014, 06:21:08 PM
Good luck and keep us posted.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on March 06, 2014, 08:03:16 PM
Sounds like you know what you need to do.  Looking forward to seeing the progress.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: EDNY on March 06, 2014, 08:25:02 PM
On my 33 Chevy 5 window coupe...had to buy a longer shafted peep mirror to see around the side of the car...where it is located was not my choice...it's the only location that works. :)

Ed
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on March 06, 2014, 09:41:11 PM
I already have the mirrors and they have a bent arm. On other Poncho's that I have pics of it looks like they go just under the hinge near the bottom of the window. Don't know if I'll try and swap em' out for straight arms  . Speedway's pretty good about that but I bought em' last year.
Also the doors have no holes for a factory location. So these have a clamp on option.
One of those put it up to it and see where it looks good things .
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on March 10, 2014, 01:34:29 AM
Started her up today.
Made me, even feel good.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: themoose on March 10, 2014, 12:57:44 PM
Nothing like hearing it talking to you to get the old blood pumping :-*

Moose
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: EDNY on March 10, 2014, 01:12:30 PM
I bet it feels good that the driveline came from a running car and ready to drive!  No break in problems...
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on March 17, 2014, 09:18:56 PM
Yes, that was nice. I liked not having firewall issues.
Made installing the engine kinda fun instead of work.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on March 17, 2014, 09:40:42 PM
Looking at your build thread from the beginning it's come a long way.  Glad to hear you got it running without any trouble.  With the low mileage on the engine it should serve you well.  Keep it up!
Tom
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on May 27, 2014, 12:08:08 AM
Yay. I made it back. Was having login issues .
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on May 27, 2014, 12:30:51 AM
So here's the suprise Ive been holding out on.
Ive been trying to keep the body as original as possible .
The car has park/marker lights mounted on the front fenders but I only had one that was just a shell
and dented up pretty bad. So while looking for some on e-bay to no luck. I found a glass that goes inside but the guy wanted $250 just for that.
So keeping with the moto "if ya cant find original, better get something damn close" .

I started looking at the old guide lights that has a marker mounted to the top. Gave me an idea.  :)

Original
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/steeltowood012.jpg)

I found these from OTB Gear .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32pontiac007_zps107d862e.jpg)
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32pontiac006_zps6780358f.jpg)

Still gotta bit of work to do to the fender and wire it up.
Was also thinking of putting in a tiny led for turn signals inside.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32pontiac002_zps9e3a77c7.jpg)
The cool thing is  that they were just a bit shorter,  but still "close enough"

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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: EDNY on May 27, 2014, 06:11:55 AM
That will work fine!

I was looking for a set of those Guide marker lights to attach to my standard round lights...is that something you had or just bought?

Ed
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on May 27, 2014, 07:13:22 PM
I bought em' after I got the measurements from OTB Gear . They are so close to the original marker lights its scary .
Here's a link for ya.
http://www.otbgear.com/default.aspx

Gonna be giving a call (this week)  to the glass-shop down the street and get an appointment set up for the windshield.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on May 27, 2014, 08:23:24 PM
Now that's going to set your car apart.  Very cool!
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: themoose on May 27, 2014, 08:36:50 PM
I agree....They will look great!!

Moose
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on June 06, 2014, 08:25:43 PM
Finnaly sold my wrangler 2 weeks ago  :'( . So now thats outta the way and can divert my attention to the 32.

The front seat got installed . feels good to have that done .

Today I drove it to the glass guy.
 What a fun and scary ride at the same time.  Did good for a few miles then I hit a big bump and experienced "death wobble" for a few seconds till I got on the brakes and slowed down  :o. Other than that it was a great ride (no windshield at 40mph)  .
Once I get it back mon/tues I'll address the D.W. issue. The shocks have no fluid so I'll fill those up and tighten down every bolt in the front and steering . If that dont do it, maybe a "trackbar" is next to order.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: vette59jdwl on June 07, 2014, 11:29:10 AM
  The one on top of the headlight looks like a 1934 Ford.The other ones on top of the fenders look like the clearence lights on top of the old tractor trailer,tractors. check out an old truck scrap yard i am sure you will find something on the roofs of the older trucks  mooseman
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on June 12, 2014, 11:02:20 PM
Got the car back from the glass shop today. I now have a windshield . 8)
I had a choice of a light green tinted windshield or a clear windshield .
I chose the tinted. Glad I did.

On the way home I had a "wobble" issue again but at 20mph . I think its coming from the R.F. tire. Seems whenever I hit a big bump its the right front . I kinda want to stick my action camera under there and get some video of it .
I'll post  pics when progress is made.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on June 30, 2014, 09:04:51 PM
OK are guys ready for some pics!!!



The windshield done .
I rolled it up a bit. I love this vision/ventalation windshield !  ;D
The glass guy said he had done a ton of fords but never a roll up windshield. I said now you've done it all .
 I let him have it for a few days cause I know things like this should never be rushed.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32s1stcarshow009_zps50e65608.jpg)

Since it was my B-day on the 19th I took the morning off work and got the registration done.
With new Antique license plates I was ready to roll. but...... I had to get a few things done first .

Next I put some motorcycle shock oil in the shocks . Disconnected the arms and pushed up and down on them till no airbubbles was herd in the resivour .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32s1stcarshow011_zps2fa32e78.jpg)
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32s1stcarshow012_zpsc9fa6567.jpg)

Then it was time to mount the rear fenders properly . Other than one bolt .
Now theres 6 each side .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32s1stcarshow013_zpsad9c2370.jpg)

Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on June 30, 2014, 09:20:21 PM
Now onto the fun part I've been waiting for . Front Marker lights .

Passenger side all welded up and drilled ready to mount.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32s1stcarshow017_zps574bd1ae.jpg)

Drivers side still had the old mount I had to get off. Was glad to see the rust wasnt that bad under there and this side went a bit quicker .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32s1stcarshow016_zps2f019f84.jpg)

So after much pondering I bought some a 3/4in LED's  to install with the 1155 bulb that comes with the kit. I tried an 1157 so I could have marker and turn signal in one bulb but... it wouldnt fit (too tall). There was enough extra room inside the housing for the LED .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32s1stcarshow018_zps06a8cbe9.jpg)

At first I worried it would be tooo bright but this is just right (3/4" amber LED).
Marker lights on.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32s1stcarshow019_zps590f3394.jpg)

(Mounts were loose during the light testing) after mounts were tightened the gap at the bottom is gone.

(1155 clear)
Turn Signal's
They are really bright.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1
/32s1stcarshow020_zps1e7ca292.jpg)

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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on June 30, 2014, 09:34:54 PM
Last friday I worked on it till about 2am. then woke up at 7 and worked again till 10:30am finishing things so I could go to my first car show.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32s1stcarshow050_zpsd64554f8.jpg)

 ;D ;D ;D
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32s1stcarshow057_zps6e4d0987.jpg)

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32s1stcarshow056_zps212d1ba9.jpg)

B&W just for fun.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32s1stcarshow049_zps5db95aad.jpg)

Man what a weight lifted off my chest getting to this point.  Now time for some real fun.

 8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: madmike3434 on June 30, 2014, 11:37:24 PM
Drive it into the fall season, then go at the fenders one at a time.  Good looking gm body style rarely seen.

mike    8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: logride on July 01, 2014, 11:47:00 AM
Are those Coker's new radial tires that look like bias plys? If they are how do you like them?

Great progress!

Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on July 01, 2014, 12:24:55 PM
Great job!  That must have been a blast going to the first car show.  Nice work with the front marker lights.  It's the little things that make it cool.
Tom
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: 62131 on July 01, 2014, 04:44:37 PM
looking good, I know how it feels to drive one for the first time, you have that uneasy feeling wondering if it will stay together, did you do everything right, it will get a little better each time you drive it. Looks great  and enjoy it.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: themoose on July 01, 2014, 07:58:15 PM
I'll you car was the hit of the show. I've never seen a Pontiac of your vintage in my area. Looking great!!!

Moose
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on July 03, 2014, 09:15:25 PM
Great job!  That must have been a blast going to the first car show.  Nice work with the front marker lights.  It's the little things that make it cool.
Tom
It was a blast . I was smiling all day .

Drive it into the fall season, then go at the fenders one at a time.  Good looking gm body style rarely seen.


mike    8)
Hopefully this winter I'll get some new rear fenders for it

Are those Coker's new radial tires that look like bias plys? If they are how do you like them?

Great progress!



They are just some old school Sears Tires that a co-worker bought new in the 90's , put 2k on em' then he decided to go hotrod

I'll you car was the hit of the show. I've never seen a Pontiac of your vintage in my area. Looking great!!!

Moose


Thanks.  Only a few chevys here and a 32 Buick running around .


looking good, I know how it feels to drive one for the first time, you have that uneasy feeling wondering if it will stay together, did you do everything right, it will get a little better each time you drive it. Looks great  and enjoy it.

Yes it was Scary and Fun at the same time .  ;D

Now I gotta wire up the headlights (ran outta time before the car-show) and put the Mirrors on.
Pics of course when thats done .
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on August 05, 2014, 12:21:52 AM
Lights all wired up and also made some looms to route the wires properly .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Deathwobble005_zpse7418bbe.jpg)

Already had these done when the car was wired . They look cool all lit up .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Deathwobble006_zpsa328889c.jpg)

The original drag-link end getting rebuilt to take care of the "Bump-steer issue" .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Deathwobble009_zps9858b177.jpg)

Here's the rebuild kit for both ends of the drag-link and also the tool I made for the end-cap bolt.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Deathwobble010_zps06640a31.jpg)

Spacers that go inside the spring. So I chose the one closest to the original.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Deathwobble011_zps74645b17.jpg)

Original internals .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Deathwobble012_zps36d3da57.jpg)

The order they get installed .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Deathwobble013_zps20a04753.jpg)

The end-cap screw they sent me seemed to be a tiny bit smaller than the OE part and also the threads didnt match up.
I re-used the OE part . cleaned it up with a wire brush and put anti-sieze on .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Deathwobble014_zps6d50eb4f.jpg)

All put together.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Deathwobble016_zps1f352beb.jpg)

While I had the draglink off , I finished welding the sleeve all around and sprayed some black on .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Deathwobble017_zpse78ee6b5.jpg)

Since I had the car out while cleaning the shop I rolled the teardrop behind the car to see if my plans for the hitch would work out . Seems all good .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Deathwobble007_zps97673097.jpg)

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Deathwobble008_zpsb05ee82a.jpg)

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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: themoose on August 05, 2014, 08:46:46 AM
Looks like your almost ready to go out for a night on the town :D

Moose
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: vette59jdwl on August 05, 2014, 12:41:52 PM
Nice work Rattiac  There sure is not a lot of pontiac's around here  But  i do have a friend that is doing a 1933 Pontiac sedan delivery,and it is coming along nicely
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on August 05, 2014, 12:45:00 PM
Lookin' good!  Should tow that trailer real nice.  Nice work on the front end, hope it solves your problem.
Tom
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on August 05, 2014, 08:15:28 PM
Looking good Rattiac, don't slow down now!
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on August 06, 2014, 12:25:58 AM
Hopefully that does fix it. Gonna try and get off work a bit early tomorrow and fix the brakelights .
I noticed my brakelights were not coming on while braking unless I pushed the pedal real hard , so while trying to adjust the lil chain that activates the switch,  I broke the chain .
Fixin that, then hittin the road.

Nope not slowin down yet. Just picked me up some velcro and getting ready to sew the top up .  8)

Looks like I need to size down my pics a tiny bit .
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on August 13, 2014, 12:21:08 AM
Alright , I need some input.

I picked up a KYB steering stabilizer kit and have 2 options on mounting it.

(Option 1);
Mount it like it says in the instructions. Wich Id have to mount hanging under the axle a bit cause on top has little clearance for supspension travel .
Mounts to I-beam and tie-rod .
It would look ugly I think but I may have to .  OR

(Option 2) ;
I could mount it inline with the draglink  and hide it a bit better but the angles are a bit more off .
Basically It would u-bolt to the leafspring and the other end would go to the draglink.
I already plan to spray it flat-black to hide it better.
What'cha think ???

Funny thing, is the instructions show how to mount to an I-beam axle.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sammons on August 13, 2014, 09:47:09 AM
Rattiac, I don't know if this helps, but my Jeeps ran up at about a 15 angle and worked just fine.  I don't know what clearance issues you have, but could you build a frame bracket like the Vette used on their power steering ram? Here is a pic of mine, I hope this may give you an idea.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on August 13, 2014, 08:00:55 PM
Cool that helps. Thanks.

 For now Im gonna have to run it like the instructions say cause my daily driver just broke down and I gotta swap cars tonight. I'll deal with the DD this weekend.
Good thing for back-up drivers.  8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on August 18, 2014, 10:54:46 PM
Well since I had this all mocked up anyway. I decided to roll with it. All I had to do was a bit of grinding on my over-done draglink sleeve . Was painted black after this pic.

Works great. DEATH WOBBLE IS GONE !!!!!!
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32s1stcarshow002_zps50c25258.jpg)

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32s1stcarshow001_zpsf75004c2.jpg)

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32s1stcarshow004_zps065b1856.jpg)

Also fixed the leakin transmission cooler (fittings) .
Decided to ditch the radidator trans cooler and used my old cooler I had laying around.
The fins were all beat up from pulling it out of the other car but I found a "fin straightener" at Lowes in the AC section and used that to fix the fins .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32s1stcarshow014_zpsda77d123.jpg)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on August 18, 2014, 11:03:09 PM
Of course my Mtn Dew bottle wasnt big enuf to hold coolant so I used a Tequilla bottle mounted to the firewall to break up some of the blank spot there.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32s1stcarshow015_zpsa5a731e0.jpg)

Started mocking up the top. Getting it all ready to sew.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32s1stcarshow006_zps5071e2ab.jpg)

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32s1stcarshow003_zps7130e18d.jpg)

Started  marking where I was going to put snaps.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32s1stcarshow007_zpsfd768b88.jpg)

Also using some industrial velcro with the snaps.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32s1stcarshow009_zps4ac18409.jpg)

Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on August 18, 2014, 11:08:57 PM
All marks cleaned off and ready for snaps.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32s1stcarshow008_zps51e4f82e.jpg)

I put a snap up front to hold the front down and if I ever roll the top up I can snap it here to keep it from unrolling.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32s1stcarshow010_zpsa467ded0.jpg)

Snaps on .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32s1stcarshow016_zpsd6ad8d4d.jpg)

Here's an inside view along with my new steering wheel cover so my hands dont turn black while driving.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32s1stcarshow011_zps73a64f74.jpg)

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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on August 18, 2014, 11:18:07 PM
Ive been driving this car all last week and the stabilizer worked perfect.
No bump steer (or D.W) at all.  I loved driving it , good fun . Steering is a bit stiffer when turning at low speed but I need some muscle burn anyhow .

Wish I had the top done then,  cause I could have avoided a good sunburn . Just finished it up tonight. I'll probably give it a break for a week or two and do some yard stuff I've been putting off but I may sneak in a carshow sometime these next 2 weeks.

Forgot to throw in this pic of the top all rolled up (low speed cruising only) .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/32s1stcarshow017_zps83335917.jpg)
Yes its BEER 30 .

Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: madmike3434 on August 19, 2014, 12:50:53 AM
no more death wobble !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fantastic....!   mike   8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on August 19, 2014, 07:16:18 AM
Glad to hear the death wobble is gone!  Nice work on the top.  I like the way you can roll it up to make a sun roof out of it.  Cool car!
Tom
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: ghost28 on August 19, 2014, 06:35:14 PM
That car is so cool and I bet a blast to drive, Nice job.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: themoose on August 19, 2014, 08:25:47 PM
I agree with the other guys ....Your doing a super job and the car is looking great. It's too bad you had to throw out all of that good Tequila to make your coolant bottle....You did through it out right???

Moose
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on August 20, 2014, 08:00:30 PM
Thanks everyone . It sure is fun to drive. Now with the top on I can see out the back windows . I took it on a highway near home thats speed limit is 55mph. It drove well and I took it up a bit faster to see how it handled. Speedo said 70 but I'll have to GPS it to see how accurate that is.

Yesterday I picked up a (wide-angle ) rearview mirror. Not factory but I modified it a bit to work with the original mount. Its good to see behind me now. I'd hate to be that jerk in the ratrod cutting people off .
Today I called the filling station and ordered a wiper arm and 8" blade.

Still have a list of things I havent got done yet.
1.) Hook up E-brake cables
2.) Replace rear leafspring bushings at the shackle. I think I may have some from my jeep supply.
3.) Hook up hose for drain at the cowl vent.
4.) Go over every nut and bolt (double check)  so I can plan a longer trip before winter hits .
5.) Plan a trip with some dirt roads (pony exspress or other) .
6.) fix rear windows that rattle .

It took me awhile to get thru that tequilla bottle, but no it didnt get thrown out. I dont drink much but im working on it.  ;D
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on August 20, 2014, 08:31:19 PM
The car looks great, you have done a ton of work quick! I like the top, it's pretty cool. From your pictures it look slike you switched from tequila to Bud :P
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sammons on August 20, 2014, 09:28:12 PM
Look'n goood man! Sure glad your wobble is gone. Ah the shake down, I aways went through all checks, then had my buddy Tom go over it. He usually didn't find anything but on occasion he would, nice to have a second pair of eyes sometimes.

Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sixball on August 21, 2014, 12:12:33 PM
I really like what you have done with this car. You have built yourself a fun driver without getting bogged down in a bunch of nit picky cosmetic stuff. It looks like a ride with some history while being eye catching at the same time. What are your interior plans. With all that good wood I think showing it off would be cool. Good work and thanks for sharing it with us. It is inspiring.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on August 25, 2014, 08:20:59 PM
Yeah, that was a victory beer for getting the top done.  8)

I noticed people talk about how the wood survived this long (somewhat) at the last carshow.
They seem to like the originallity of the wood. :)
Brought yall back some pics from that. Soon as I get some more build pics.
So far no interior plans yet. other than replacing the wood with steel, but that wont be till this next winter. I may put down some carpet and try to seal off the engine bay (from the cabin)  better.

I found a carshow in the next month that does a cruise up a mountain road (paved) about 20-30- miles. Ive camped there before and want to try this. Its about 40+ miles south of here to get there and then the cruise. So I convinced the woman to go and its a plan.
So Ive gotta do some creature comforts inside. Basically so we dont smell like car when we jump out . :o
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 03, 2014, 09:35:42 PM
I put a wiper on and had to bend it a bit differently than this pic to get it to hold against the windshield.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Magna2014-081_zps130ff699.jpg)

I found these wiper motors in the garage when we moved in and thought I may use one in the future. Checked and only one worked.
It would work,  but I dont like how I would have to mount it .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Magna2014-082_zps0feb75b5.jpg)

So I made a little manual handle for temparary .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Magna2014-080_zpscbf255be.jpg)

Im not liking my mirror mount so I making new mounts .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Magna2014-083_zps6d5511fd.jpg)

Much better, and I dont have to bend anything.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Magna2014-084_zpse1073e3f.jpg)

Oh and I re-calibrated my speedometer . When I was doing 40 the GPS said 33mph . 7mph over .
I though it was reading miles kinda fast.

Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 03, 2014, 10:14:27 PM
Monday morning I packed up the car and headed to the labor day carshow its about 20 miles from my house. I took what we call (baccus hwy - "back-a$$" ) accross town . Speed limits 60mph on here.
The car did great except on uneven sections of blacktop then its kinda hairy (bias plys) .
 It stayed cool 180* till it was a crawl then it would go up. So going this way was almost a straight shot .
Top did well also. Didnt ballon-up like I thought it might. Stayed nice and tight. No noise from it either.

Carshow was awesome , about 300 cars showed. I got there early and found a spot near trees but also brought my pop-up shade thingy .

Here's some pics I promised ya .
(these 2 are from another CS a few weeks ago)
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Magna2014-011_zpsaa06c161.jpg)
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Magna2014-019_zpsd954cde6.jpg)

Labor day pics.  8)
Something shiney.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Magna2014-067_zps838f492c.jpg)
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Magna2014-066_zps34624c5a.jpg)

I tend to dig the military stuff.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Magna2014-049_zps0453d472.jpg)

Somethig rusty and big.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Magna2014-032_zpsaa148e21.jpg)

Love the handles .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Magna2014-030_zpsb1fa7258.jpg)

Something about lots of chrome and black and white photos I like.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Magna2014-044_zps7f004194.jpg)
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Magna2014-043_zpsf8f3bd9f.jpg)

I saw this a few years back and he's done alot of improvments since then . Great car .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Magna2014-023_zps4a4e98b4.jpg)

Since I was out this way and it was so close I payed some respects to a few family members.
This is their view everyday.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Magna2014-074_zps1505af51.jpg)

On my way home I decided to take her out a bit further and went up a local canyon.
Up at the top cooling down. (looks like an abandoned car pic)  ;D
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Magna2014-075_zps52df5469.jpg)

Drivers view. (dont try this at home)
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Magna2014-077_zps601d9fc5.jpg)

Found a cool lil dirt road with a small stream to cross . Poser pic..
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Magna2014-076_zps636e4dc9.jpg)

Played with some editing on this pic .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Magna2014-076_zpse192299e.jpg)

What a great day it was and got to do some higher speed testing . Love it.  8)



Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sammons on September 03, 2014, 10:29:38 PM
Cool, looks like ya had a good time. I'm jealous,  maybe next year for me.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: themoose on September 04, 2014, 08:51:02 AM
Yup...Looks like you had a great day. Thanks for posting all of those pictures...I really like that Plymouth coupe.

Moose
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: vette59jdwl on September 04, 2014, 09:34:18 AM
Rattiac  looking great,  sure wish mine was that far ahead,  Anyways  you enjoy the car shows summer is almost gone.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: ghost28 on September 04, 2014, 06:52:26 PM
Nice job. I so want to hit some back roads on a long ride.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sixball on September 05, 2014, 01:17:31 PM
That's why we build 'em! I almost forgot, Thanks. 8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 08, 2014, 08:01:55 PM
The other day I OFFICIALLY calibrated my speedometer . Before I went off a MPH sign that warns you when speeding, but that wasnt fully correct and I had it backwards when I set it (re-read the instructions) . I barrowed a (fully charged)  GPS and it read 75 at 60mph  :o .
Its correct now and can definatly tell it has 3.73's .
I felt brave enough driving it lately that I took it on the freeway to go visit the car-club at thier ususal meeting place on sundays.
Wooo, hoooo 65mph was a blast.
People next to me taking pictures and such. I also noticed I was givin plenty of room when changin lanes and no tailgaters .  ;D  This is one car that has to have full attention on the steering-wheel, no distrations, no talking on the cell because of the bias tires but no biggie I like it.
Picked me up a small 2.5in Tachometer. Its black and non racy lookin as to not draw attention away from the classic gauges . Its mounted and will be wiring that up this week .
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 20, 2014, 12:52:15 AM
Tach all mounted and wired. Guess I really have 3.73's now. The tach reads 3,000rpms when at 60.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Magna2014-004_zpse86c89e7.jpg)

Mirror brackets done. Its nice to have 2 mirrors and be able to see around the car.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Magna2014-003_zps79716b77.jpg)

I almost for got about these Pontiac center caps , I had them stashed for so long.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Magna2014-002_zpsee717c2c.jpg)

Took a pic at about 11pm. So I kept the shutter speed open for 6 seconds to produce this creepy night pic.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Magna2014-001_zps8b15350a.jpg)

Also put a new rubber hose for the drain on the cowl vent so it dont drip on my feet anymore.

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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: themoose on September 20, 2014, 06:08:33 AM
I like that night picture....Looks like you driving out of the jaws of hell :D

Moose


Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on September 20, 2014, 07:56:14 PM
Nice ride!  Glad you're getting some miles on it.  That night picture is cool!
Tom
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on November 06, 2014, 11:08:15 PM
Looks like car-show season here is done and time to park it for the winter.
After my Opher trip it looks like I need to tighten a trans cooler line and get some new header bolts also gonna have to paint the headers while Im doin that .
But first ........... I need to clean the damn shop. I just been having too much fun driving around enjoying all that work put into her .
So OFFICIALLY I have to say Phase # 1 is done (getting it drivable) .
I'll throw this pic in here to end the season with.  8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: 62131 on November 07, 2014, 06:15:56 AM
Went back and reread some of your post here and it looks like you are having a great time with your car, glad to see your enjoying it
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on November 07, 2014, 08:56:57 AM
Sounds like a plan, Rattiac. But don't go away, there's plenty to do over the winter and plenty to post, right guys?
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: 62131 on November 07, 2014, 06:03:03 PM
Working thru the winter months is when I get most of my work done.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on November 10, 2014, 07:50:31 PM
Oh no Im not goin away. Still have a ton of things to do but no moola for now.
I still never got my e-brake cables hooked up and Hitch for the TD built, also the rear leafspring bushings need to be done with probably more I can do over the winter. Already have that stuff so its free .
I really wanted to do some steelwork inside replacing the wood but not sure if that'll get done during this winter .
Maybe throw in a couple drives as well and still havent done a big-ass burnout either .

Hmmm, to be continued .......
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on November 11, 2014, 07:52:20 AM
Get your priorities straight!!!! The burnout goes at the top of the list.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on November 12, 2014, 10:12:50 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 19, 2014, 10:37:41 PM
I shifted gears a bit and decided to fix the leaky hatch on the teardrop . When I bought this I knew it needed a new hatch but the price was right.

Hatch rebuild.

Here's a look at the hinge . Not my work.
That needs to go. Im putting in the proper hinge . Called a Hurricane Hinge.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/TDhatch001_zps7cfe0397.jpg)

By , by old hatch.
I may be able to re-use some of the white aluminum for repairs for the lower section.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/TDhatch007_zps40b7ea45.jpg)

Looking under the old hatch is was badly done. Big gaps where the cross supports were cut too short. Spacers between the trim and body.
This thing flexed like a jeep going through a rock garden . ;D
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/IMG_20141203_190815_573_zpscf1cb7a2.jpg)

Built the new frame .
Dont mind all the camping gear . It gets used as storage for winter months.
Almost no flex with this frame..
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/IMG_20141130_145339_974_zpsd0b50681.jpg)

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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 19, 2014, 10:48:46 PM
Hatch rebuild part 2;


This upper section needs to be replaced because screw holes.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/IMG_20141203_184815_029_zps6f1d00ea.jpg)

The lower section below the hatch needs replaced as well. Also removing the 1/4" wood so the hatch is flush. Gonna put new aluminum all the way down to the bottom of the frame .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/IMG_20141130_151644_761_zps3c17212e.jpg)

I cut 3/8" from the wall to make the hatch flush.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/TDhatch005_zps3812ac82.jpg)

Hatch is skinned with 1/8" birch plywood.  Grain going sideways make the wood bend easier .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/IMG_20141204_215807_627_zps67393220.jpg)


Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 19, 2014, 11:07:12 PM
The new Hurricane hinge mounted up for mock-up. Most builders let the hinge overhange the body by about 3/8" to create a drip edge away from the body. Im gonna do 1" . Its overkill but oh well.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/IMG_20141206_185951_333_zpse50d2597.jpg)

Up and down travel works good . I have a pair of old rear hatch shocks from a cherokee that should work perfect for this .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/IMG_20141206_183837_533_zps9fd36228.jpg)

Now im just waiting on aluminunm and trim .  ::)



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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: madmike3434 on December 20, 2014, 09:06:38 AM
interesting that the hinge your using, that your calling a HURRICANE HINGE, is the same type design as a 1933---1935 Chevrolet hood hinge minus the rivet holes.


Where did you obtain that and is it made of aluminum ????

mike............. 8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: vette59jdwl on December 20, 2014, 01:03:59 PM
  Mike  I got mine at an auto recycler .It was off of a cap on the back of some old Dodge truck with a camper in the box, But i do believe that any outdoor trailer place carry these,They are used to attach tables to the sides of trailers and motorhomes.They also use a very similar piece to attach awnings to the sides of trailers and yes they are made of aluminum,
  As far as letting it stick out beyond the edge of the trailer. That is looking for trouble or an awfully sore head--OUCH  vette59jdwl
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 20, 2014, 02:29:31 PM
Here's a link for ya mike .  http://www.teardrops.net/teardroptrailerparts.html

I may trim it back a bit and round off the edges . I'll give it a water test once its done and see how the water behaves dropping off that .
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: vette59jdwl on December 20, 2014, 03:05:15 PM
   Rattiac  under the end of the kitchen trunk lid is suppose to be a rubber to seal the lid with the edge of the sides therefore diverting water or any rain out away from the seal and prevent moisture from entering the living area. vette59jdwl
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on December 20, 2014, 08:39:58 PM
Yea. I havent got to that point yet. Still waiting on trim/aluminum.
When I get there I'll pull the a/c and stick my head in there when the hatch is closed to see where I need to seal it better . Hopefully i'll have parts in a week or two . Its winter but I wanna go camping.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: madmike3434 on December 20, 2014, 10:41:33 PM
Yea. I havent got to that point yet. Still waiting on trim/aluminum.
When I get there I'll pull the a/c and stick my head in there when the hatch is closed to see where I need to seal it better . Hopefully i'll have parts in a week or two . Its winter but I wanna go camping.

Hope you want to head to Arizona or florida to do the camping.
mike    8) 8) 8) 8) ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: vette59jdwl on December 21, 2014, 10:19:30 AM
   I sure do like Apache Junction Az, lots of fishing lots of hot rods lots of car guys and not to far from Yuma  lol lol vette59jdwl
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on January 10, 2015, 09:43:30 PM
Found me some correct size mirrors . I'll have one as an extra.
They came from some sun-visors I had reupholstered .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/IMG_20150109_190716_896_zps13ca2616.jpg)

Also found a Hood Ornament .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/IMG_20150109_190415_919_zpsd2c7ef46.jpg)


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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: madmike3434 on January 10, 2015, 10:54:08 PM
THATS A FANTASTIC RADIATOR MASCOT.

love it
mike            8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: ghost28 on January 11, 2015, 09:27:34 AM
perfect pontiac mascot. I am still looking for a nice one for the Buick. I would love to find a flapper girl from the roaring 20s
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: vette59jdwl on January 11, 2015, 10:59:05 AM
   Yes sir  ieee  Now it is a genuine Tin Indian and people will not have to ask   Sir what kind of car is that .... DAH
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sixball on January 11, 2015, 12:09:30 PM
Love the Native American. :o  I'm looking for just the right flying lady for my roadster.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on January 13, 2015, 11:42:22 PM
Thanks everyone. Im just glad to cover the hole up. :o

This guy makes all sorts of hood ornaments. Im sure he can make something for ya .
I like this one. Its kinda funny .
http://www.ebay.com/itm/middle-finger-flip-off-ratrod-hotrod-motorcycle-car-hood-ornament-/321637467138?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae3164402


Teardrop Update;;;;;;;;

I have all my materials in the shop ready to go on (aluminum, trim, glue, screws , diamond plate).
Hoopefully this weekend I can crank it out.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: vette59jdwl on January 14, 2015, 09:54:32 AM
Rattiac  I just searched Pontiac hood ornaments and man these people are crazy  they are trying to get rich quick lol lol  they will surely be there a long long time  Now there were two at a decent price  inclosed are pics   wayner
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on January 14, 2015, 02:25:07 PM
Thanks everyone. Im just glad to cover the hole up. :o

This guy makes all sorts of hood ornaments. Im sure he can make something for ya .
I like this one. Its kinda funny .
http://www.ebay.com/itm/middle-finger-flip-off-ratrod-hotrod-motorcycle-car-hood-ornament-/321637467138?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae3164402


Teardrop Update;;;;;;;;


That guy on ebay has some GREAT hood ornaments. I never thought about putting one on my car...............but I'm thinking about it now

I have all my materials in the shop ready to go on (aluminum, trim, glue, screws , diamond plate).
Hoopefully this weekend I can crank it out.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on January 15, 2015, 10:54:07 PM
After looking at some caps. I think i'll just make a round plate and bolt it to that .
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: vette59jdwl on January 16, 2015, 02:52:33 PM
  Na Rattiac  you need something that says look at me I AM A PONTIAC  I am a Tin Indian

 vette59jdwl
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: vette59jdwl on January 16, 2015, 03:29:20 PM
Rattiac  Go to GOOGLE and type in Pontiac hood ornaments  there are hundreds of choices from the big finger to the duck from the eagle to a kangaroo of all things  lol lol  fill your boots  vette59jdwl
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on January 16, 2015, 07:57:23 PM
What I meant was . I gotta come up with something to bolt my ornament to,  cause there is just a hole where the original radiator cap was.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: vette59jdwl on January 16, 2015, 08:09:58 PM
  OK why not just get a rad cap to fit your car and drill it and put your mascot onto the cap,,,I take it you have another rad behind the grill shell and have a modern rad cap is this so  vette59jdwl
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on February 03, 2015, 12:45:03 AM
Back to the teardrop for ; Part 3 of the hatch rebuild . and then some.......

While I had the hatch off and was checking things out.
I decided to just re-trim the whole thing as I didnt like the shoddy trim on there. You'll see why .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/IMG_20150119_184248_971_zps0f4bfad2.jpg)

And a section that was in 2 pieces .  ::)
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/IMG_20150119_184300_920_zps1b07720a.jpg)

It all had to come off.



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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on February 03, 2015, 06:34:21 PM
I agree with your decision to replace the trim, Rattiac. It would bug me every time I looked at it.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on February 03, 2015, 08:12:14 PM
So after searching a few RV places for trim . I couldnt find what I wanted and the stuff I liked was expensive OR way toooo much to ship in .  :o
Plus I needed something that would screw in from the sides and not on top .
Putting screws on the top (like RV trim)  I didnt like cause they would be going into the edge of the wood (side-walls) so they wouldnt be that strong of a hold.

I decided to make my own trim . Which means I'd have to (anneal it) to bend it  .
Using some stair-trim in 12ft lengths . I started the "annealing process" .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/IMG_20150119_191241_276_zps978124b6.jpg)

On the teardrop site I found a few things on annealing and was told by a friend to use
magic-marker for a temperature stick of sorts.
Long story short . Heat the sides of the trim with a propane torch till the magic-marker burns off completely . I held it there just a few minutes longer till I could feel/see the trim bending .
I did this in 3 short 1 inch  sections between the screw holes to spread the load evenly.
While bending 3 little kinks appeared and I smaked them down with a (plastic Deadblow hammer)
You can feel the aluminum stretch a bit . but I did not hit the top of the trim since it was round on top but if it was flat ya can hit there also.
After my first 2 bends I was getting the hang of it .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/IMG_20150119_200011_257_zpsb21fc4e2.jpg)

Once all the bending was done I pulled the trim back off and cleaned where it was hit with the deadblow hammer using a light grit scotchbrite pad and some wax&grease remover .
(warning dont use a steel hammer cause it will leave scrapes, dents, ect)

Before putting the trim back on I used putty tape and some white Polyeurathane to seal things up.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/IMG_20150127_200445_400_zps4e1b22d5.jpg)

Trim on and all sealed up .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/IMG_20150119_184228_776_zpsdc6cff03.jpg)

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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on February 03, 2015, 08:19:25 PM
Another trim shot.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/IMG_20150125_171948_353_zps64fd2d50.jpg)

While letting the polyeurathane dry I skinned the hatch and mounted the hurricane hinge.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/IMG_20150125_171805_694_zps0c0be65e.jpg)

Hatch mounted and sealed .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/IMG_20150128_215822_261_zps15d687be.jpg)

Glad to see it back together but still need to trim the hatch and the area below it .
Thats todays project.  ;D
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on February 03, 2015, 09:23:00 PM
That looks great, Rattiac. Alot cheaper and much more satisfaction :)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: 62131 on February 03, 2015, 09:41:19 PM
It does look a lot better than what was there
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on February 11, 2015, 12:53:54 AM
Finished the hatch trim just a few minutes ago and put some diamond-plate down near the bottom to cap off the aluminum at the frame.
All sealed up but just a few small things like the hatch lock w/ handle , and some rubber weatherstripping underneath .
Also sending out a diamond-plate sheet to get bent for the front tomorrow .
Man im tired , im goin to bed .  8)
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/IMG_20150210_215658_180_zps704336a3.jpg)

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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: vette59jdwl on February 11, 2015, 11:01:14 AM
   Rattiac  back to your mascott hood ornament. One time along time ago ,i wanted to put three branch spinners on my wheels,so what i did was to measure the hole size and then i cut a circle out of 1/4 inch alluminum and i made that circle 1/4 of an inch larger than the hole .I put a 1/4 inch hole in the center and then put that circle on the inside so it would fill the hole and with the 1/4 inch hole i could attach something to the other side in other words the top. or the ornament then tighten the screw from inside to tighten this all up.Putting a gasket wetween the top of the radiator and the ornament is optional   vette59jdwl
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sixball on February 11, 2015, 02:11:30 PM
Nice job. I'd like to have my camp trailer ready for Bonneville this year but probably not. :(
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on February 11, 2015, 02:53:14 PM
That teardrop looks real nice, Rattiac. I'm not allowed to have another car right now :'(, I wonder how my wife would feel about a trailer ;)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sixball on February 11, 2015, 07:13:18 PM
How about a Vespa or Lambretta?  8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: 62131 on February 11, 2015, 08:04:45 PM
Chopper and I had a conversation about him and his wife not letting him have another car right now and from what I gathered from our conversation she won't be to keen on the ideal of him having a trailer either. Just kidding Chopper :)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on February 11, 2015, 11:04:31 PM
Trim and trailer look great!  Nice work :D
Tom
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on February 12, 2015, 09:41:40 AM
Chopper and I had a conversation about him and his wife not letting him have another car right now and from what I gathered from our conversation she won't be to keen on the ideal of him having a trailer either. Just kidding Chopper :)

62131, she might let me have the trailer, she'll just want me to sleep in it!
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: 62131 on February 12, 2015, 05:13:11 PM
Chopper and I had a conversation about him and his wife not letting him have another car right now and from what I gathered from our conversation she won't be to keen on the ideal of him having a trailer either. Just kidding Chopper :)

62131, she might let me have the trailer, she'll just want me to sleep in it!
Chopper you might want to rethink wanting a trailer,  I'm sure the winters are cold in Philly :)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on February 12, 2015, 10:41:59 PM
Thanks guys . I was hoping to do more like cabinets, paint the inside and finish the galley but kinda running outta time. I'll probably put those off till later this summer after a few trips . Funny how that happens. I start re-doing the hatch then it turned into a whole re-trim . At least the leaks will be gone .

Thanks vette ; for the mascot advice , I'll be getting back to that maybe next week .

Sixball; I Still never been to speedweek (done world of speed)  I gotta make that happen this year.
Maybe could do a meet-up there. How far ya from the saltflats ?

The only bad-news I have is from the taxman. Taxes were a bit short this time .
So it looks like no new steering box this year   >:(
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: vette59jdwl on February 13, 2015, 01:04:26 AM
  Rattiac if you are interested drop me a line  lave@cogeco  and i will show you how i built mine  It was 2004 and great theropy for me I built a teardrop for my daughter .But i sure had to try it out  vette59jdwl
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on February 22, 2015, 11:19:55 PM
Thats a nice trailer ya got there vette . I'll hit ya up soon.

Front diamond plate all mounted and sealed .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/IMG_20150222_181329_356_zps5e25e916.jpg)


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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on February 24, 2015, 12:10:48 PM
Very nice, I'm assuming that is aluminum?......and I like the flag.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on February 24, 2015, 07:51:59 PM
Yea. It need some protection from all the gravel roads I travel on.  ;D
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on February 26, 2015, 12:37:29 AM
Hood Ornament on....  ;D ;D ;D

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/IMG_20150225_221319_zpsux5qg0co.jpg)


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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on February 26, 2015, 07:06:53 AM
^^^^^^^
I Like It!!!
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: themoose on February 26, 2015, 08:41:23 AM
Yup...Looks real good!!
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: ghost28 on February 26, 2015, 08:56:41 AM
I like it, and the patina of the grill looks good with it also.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on February 26, 2015, 09:13:23 AM
PERFECT!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: EDNY on February 26, 2015, 01:25:48 PM
Mentioned this before..picked up a 33 Master mascot on eBay for $40 that was painted red to cover the pitting (looked bad). I dropped it in a can of carburetor cleaner.....sanded some pitting off and tried powder coating for the first time..first a coating of chrome powder..then a clear coat.  The clear coat dulls out the chrome look...this was done 3-4 years ago..I'll redo it when the car is ready for the road since the chrome powder coating technology has improved. Acceptable for a street rod.
Ed

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a383/EdJacobi/eagle.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/EdJacobi/media/eagle.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: vette59jdwl on February 26, 2015, 01:58:08 PM
Ed  that looks like the 400 dollar ones the thieves want just because its 32 or 33.That is one good looking rad ornament wish i could find one for the 32 at a good price  but they are way out of my line. I( would rather put a ford one up there pee them off  lol  waynjer   vette59jdwl  ps  got to go plow snow
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: EDNY on February 26, 2015, 03:53:18 PM
Ed  that looks like the 400 dollar ones the thieves want just because its 32 or 33.That is one good looking rad ornament wish i could find one for the 32 at a good price  but they are way oput of my line. I( would rather put a for5d one up there pee them off  lol  waynjer   vette59jdwl  ps  got to go plow snow

Check these out:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Art-Deco-Hood-Ornament-Radiator-Cap-Chevrolet-Eagle-1930s-1931-1932-/161607916261?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item25a0951ae5&vxp=mtr

New one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1931-1932-CHEVROLET-ACCESSORY-EAGLE-RADIATOR-ORNAMENT-CAP-NEW/321676885894?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D28772%26meid%3D978c34b47a0d448099a6be7f3557e50f%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D161607916261&rt=nc
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: madmike3434 on February 26, 2015, 05:39:00 PM
its brand new, its reproduction, its flawless.   At $169 ? its a no brainer.  You could not find 7 buy an original and get it replated for anywhere near that $$$$$.

nothing wrong with that price and the guy has sold 750 of them.


mike.......................... 8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: EDNY on February 26, 2015, 05:56:43 PM
its brand new, its reproduction, its flawless.   At $169 ? its a no brainer.  You could not find 7 buy an original and get it replated for anywhere near that $$$$$.

nothing wrong with that price and the guy has sold 750 of them.


mike.......................... 8)

Check out this Canadian guy (same ornament)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1931-Chevrolet-Eagle-Radiator-Mascot-Cap-Hood-Ornament-NEW-/231487197101?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_210&hash=item35e5b64fad
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: 62131 on February 26, 2015, 06:02:55 PM
its brand new, its reproduction, its flawless.   At $169 ? its a no brainer.  You could not find 7 buy an original and get it replated for anywhere near that $$$$$.

nothing wrong with that price and the guy has sold 750 of them.


mike.......................... 8)

Check out this Canadian guy (same ornament)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1931-Chevrolet-Eagle-Radiator-Mascot-Cap-Hood-Ornament-NEW-/231487197101?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_210&hash=item35e5b64fad
uote author=madmike3434 link=topic=545.msg11776#msg11776 date=1424990340] I believe he's fishing trying to hook a sucker :o
its brand new, its reproduction, its flawless.   At $169 ? its a no brainer.  You could not find 7 buy an original and get it replated for anywhere near that $$$$$.

nothing wrong with that price and the guy has sold 750 of them.


mike.......................... 8)

Check out this Canadian guy (same ornament)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1931-Chevrolet-Eagle-Radiator-Mascot-Cap-Hood-Ornament-NEW-/231487197101?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_210&hash=item35e5b64fad
[/quote]
 I believe he's fishing trying to hook a sucker :o :o
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: vette59jdwl on February 26, 2015, 07:28:20 PM
 Ok guys i am going to show you my hood ornament I do not want any of you showing this to your wives , they are likely to have a hissy fit It's a one of a kind .I call this My Royal Dalton Hood Ornament I thought i posted this all ready but i can not find it anywhere lol lol  vette59jdwl
PS I beg to be different something like Radiac  lol lol I am wore out from plowing and the good lord is sending me more cold so i am going to have a BEER day tomorrow 
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: EDNY on February 26, 2015, 08:51:32 PM
Wayne....looks like you have been tapping into that strong Canadian beer a little early ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on February 27, 2015, 08:24:23 AM
HA HA, that's awesome, Vette. Do her eyes light up?
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: vette59jdwl on February 27, 2015, 11:58:14 AM
 When i woke up this am i thought i had died and gone to heaven all i could see was stars,and then i realized I had sleep in my eyes and beer in my tummy,my eyes were shut and then i realized where i was. It was minus 25 at 730 this morning and that was without the wind chill factor counted in.I am trying to figure out what we did to deserve this ,or if maybe the planet shifted and how to shift it back,and no her eyes don't light up,but the wife's sure did when she fist layed eyes on it, and yes i ducked. I told here i would get her a new one.I thought she was going to cry,so i gave her the hole thing to rad cap and all so she could put it back on the fireplace mantel.  vette59jdwl
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on April 29, 2015, 08:48:50 PM
Odered me up some of those Stage 8 Locking header bolts from summit . When I get those in I'll pull the headers and paint em' (factory paint burned off) . ;D
The wood holding up the back window broke and partially fell down ::) . Sounds like a good steel project . Gotta start somewhere.
Went to my first carshow this year and there was a 30' Oakland , and a 32 buick parked a few spots away .  8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on May 26, 2015, 12:35:13 AM
Worked on my oil leak today. New gaskets are in and will be torquing it down tomorrow before heading to a cruise-in .
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: vette59jdwl on May 26, 2015, 09:27:39 AM
Rattiac  your driving the old girl to hard and your going to shake all that old wood out of the old girl.You could get some git rot and place the wood back to hold up the window and cover all the wood with this git rot It should hold the old girl together if you just slow down a bit and avoid all those ruts in the road lol lol vette59jdwl
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on May 27, 2015, 08:29:06 PM
Ive got a few pieces of 1" square already bent up, I just have to get doing it.  Having too much fun driving her around .  8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on May 27, 2015, 08:40:43 PM
Ive got a few pieces of 1" square already bent up, I just have to get doing it.  Having too much fun driving her around .  8)
It is hard to get any work done on them when you're having so much fun driving it around :)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on May 27, 2015, 09:10:30 PM
The trick is to put the car down so that it can't be driven unless you complete the particular job. That's motivation!
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on May 29, 2015, 12:52:47 AM
Ive got a few things that will require that here shortly .

Ive been chasing down my oil leak thats been getting all over the passenger side header and hood/fender. After using some oil dye I found out I have 3 oil leaks all in the same area.
This motor has an external oil pump . which I like .
1.) has been coming from the big bolt on the upper left.
2.) is the main gasket for the oil pump .
3.) is the oil pressure sending unit (upper right) chrome looking thing.
4th is the filter but it just needed tightening .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/IMG_20150525_190218_203_zpsvyf6jylh.jpg)
After I was sure the leaks were sealed I gave her an oil change for the year .
Tomorrow she gets a bath .  8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on May 30, 2015, 12:39:29 AM
Went to a car show today and am very happy to say .
NO MORE OIL LEAKS . Not one drop under the car.   8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on July 22, 2015, 10:10:03 PM
Did the rear bushings before I went on the trip. It was badly needed .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Phone%20pics%20%201%20295_zps0hh3mvz8.jpg)

Got a bit creative installing them .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Phone%20pics%20%201%20293_zpsmqyop4ww.jpg)

Also picked up a spare wheel . Almost didnt find one but I looked under a few wheels at a junkyard and found exactly what I have (15x7 from a caprice) "the deep wheel".
Even the owner of the junkyard said these are getting rare around here.
Couldnt find a tire in time . So I barrowed my dads spare for the trip.

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Phone%20pics%20%201%20311_zpsej9gnfbk.jpg)

I must say the car rode sooooooo much better with the new bushings.



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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on August 01, 2015, 05:41:31 PM
In my free-free time I have been working on making a video . Most of the editing is done just gotta get some footage I have added on  .
Hopefully it'll be done by winter. 
Rusty-Bowtie-ers will be the first to see it . 8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 18, 2015, 01:33:25 PM
Hooked up the custom e-brake cables I had made a year or so ago.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 18, 2015, 01:35:44 PM
This just came in this morning. Reversed Corvair steering box and pitman arm.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sammons on September 18, 2015, 07:22:06 PM
Rattiac you keep going at it, you will be at freeway speeds before you know it! ;D
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: 62131 on September 19, 2015, 11:38:02 AM
Keep it coming enjoy watching the progress
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 30, 2015, 01:34:46 PM
Finally put in the passenger window, just had to get the old protective film off first. Took forever.
Used silicone to glue the window to the slider channel. Holds well. Roll's up and down.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on November 01, 2015, 11:07:45 PM
Well, its the end of the season. I gotta burn up some guzzaline this week before it gets put away and put down for some construction this winter (maybe next summer too) .
So far Ive completed all the goals I had for the car , been to almost all the places I wanted to go and since she's proved she's street worthy . Its time to start fixing the steering and replacing the wood frame .
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on November 02, 2015, 10:25:32 AM
Did the rear bushings before I went on the trip. It was badly needed .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Phone%20pics%20%201%20295_zps0hh3mvz8.jpg)

Got a bit creative installing them .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Phone%20pics%20%201%20293_zpsmqyop4ww.jpg)

Also picked up a spare wheel . Almost didnt find one but I looked under a few wheels at a junkyard and found exactly what I have (15x7 from a caprice) "the deep wheel".
Even the owner of the junkyard said these are getting rare around here.
Couldnt find a tire in time . So I barrowed my dads spare for the trip.

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Phone%20pics%20%201%20311_zpsej9gnfbk.jpg)

I must say the car rode sooooooo much better with the new bushings.

Rattiac, I was going over some old posts, and I want to ask you about the rear shackle bushings. Did you use rubber or nylon bushings and what is your trick? I used rubber on mine and they were a bixch!! They never went in quite they way I wanted or expected, and thay are already starting to check and split. Thanks!   Jim



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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on November 02, 2015, 08:20:38 PM
I used a big long bolt and some washers/spacers I had, a impact gun and wrench  . The spring guy that lives by me told me to use anti-sieze but it didnt work very well (he is in sales) . Id probably use some silicone spray or WD, white lithium grease or other spray to help lube it in.
One already cracked/split  when I got home but no biggie since I'll be getting new leafs in the spring/summer. Still rollin on original leafs in the back.  :o
My Left rear leaf is a bit flatter than my R.R. and the car leans to the left a tad.
If you can find some polyurathane bushings. They go in alot easier , just using a hammer.
I have a pair for back-ups that go to a jeep that would work with just a tad of grinding . If you have a Jeep shop or 4 wheel Parts by ya . CJ7 bushings work for our old cars.
Around here if you say its for a hotrod , they tell ya they cant find it or want too much $$$ .
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on November 07, 2015, 10:41:34 PM
Just picked up this H/V metal band saw. For this winters project. Seems to cut straight and works for what I need.
Just gonna make a better table for it to make vertical cuts easier and get a better blade.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: madmike3434 on November 07, 2015, 11:45:02 PM
is there any provision for a liquid coolant for the blade.  ??? 

 The one a friend and I repaired didn't and we could not see the blade lasting very long.  Unless you used tapping fluid, but that would use a lot of $15 a small can.

mike     8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on November 08, 2015, 08:29:17 AM
I mounted my H/V saw on a frame as I only use it as a band saw.  I made a larger table for it and it works great.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: vette59jdwl on November 08, 2015, 09:45:06 AM
 I got to wondering if you made some sort of drain pan under the blade or under the whole setup with a small pump set up to direct or spray (say) transmission fluid on the blade does not have to be much just something to prevent the saw blade from burning up or binding up  Harbor Freight should have some ideas in the Hydraulick department. Used transmission fluid is real cheap around here (FREE) is the word .What i do is drain it through one of those old chevy filters that use to hang off of the manifolds. vette59jdwl
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: vette59jdwl on November 08, 2015, 12:16:33 PM
For all you band saw users just a note.....
band saw lubrication
on the Suffolk web site they offer the following advice

CHOOSING THE PROPER BAND SAW BLADE LUBRICATION

NEVER USE WATER as a lubricant on band saw blades. Water is NOT a lubricant and is the WRONG thing to use for many reasons.

For the woodworker using 1" and 1 1/4" bands, not only is water unacceptable as a lubricant, but it also rusts the bands causing deep pitting, and inappropriate chip swelling. This prematurely destroys the body of the band and its gullets. It also dry rots your tires or V-belts.

For proper lubrication mix HIGH ADHESION CHAIN SAW BAR OIL, with 50% kerosene or diesel fuel. Apply the solution with a spray bottle to BOTH sides of the band about once every four minutes, while the machine is running. When this lubrication is applied, the sound of cutting decreases over 50%. DO NOT APPLY AGAIN until the sound of cutting starts increasing. I guarantee you will be amazed! Longer life; No pitch buildup; No rusted or pitted bands! A great delivery system is the 12 volt windshield washer assembly out of an old car!

"Pam" spray-on vegetable shortening is a great lubrication for 3/4" WIDTH AND UNDER band saw blades on vertical saws. (EXAMPLE: Delta, Grizzly, Jet, etc.) Unplug the machine. Spray Pam vegetable shortening on a rag and wipe on both sides of the blade while turning the upper wheel by hand. You will hear a 50% sound reduction when cutting.

A band saw blade is a tool.
You must lubricate both sides!

In both cases, we know for a fact that lubrication of the body of the band increases band life by over 30%. Applied sparingly, you can cut grade lumber with NO staining to your product.

vette59jdwl
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: vette59jdwl on November 08, 2015, 12:19:58 PM
background information on canola oil
Canola is one of two cultivars of rapeseed or Brassica campestris (Brassica napus L. and B. campestris L.).[1] Their seeds are used to produce edible oil that is fit for human consumption because it has lower levels of erucic acid than traditional rapeseed oils and to produce livestock feed because it has reduced levels of the toxic glucosinolates.[2] Canola was originally naturally bred from rapeseed in Canada by Keith Downey and Baldur R. Stefansson in the early 1970s,[3][4] but it has a very different nutritional profile in addition to much less erucic acid.[5] The name "canola" was derived from "Canadian oil, low acid" in 1978.[6][7] A product known as LEAR (for low erucic acid rapeseed) derived from cross-breeding of multiple lines of Brassica juncea is also referred to as canola oil and is considered safe for consumption.[8]

Canola was developed through conventional plant breeding from rapeseed, an oilseed plant already used in ancient civilization. The word "rape" in rapeseed comes from the Latin word "rapum," meaning turnip. Turnip, rutabaga, cabbage, Brussels sprouts, mustard and many other vegetables are related to the two canola varieties commonly grown, which are cultivars of Brassica napus and Brassica rapa. The negative associations due to the homophone "rape" resulted in creation of the more marketing-friendly name "Canola". The change in name also serves to distinguish it from regular rapeseed oil, which has much higher erucic acid content.

In the United kingdom one of the cooking oils available is rapeseed oil.From reading the information above taken from Wikipedia it would seem sensible to suggest that the canola oil in the USA. may be the same as the rapeseed oil sold as a cooking oil in the United kingdom
You should be able to use any non-stick aerosol cooking spray. Look at the ingrediants. Its a component called lecithin that provides the non-stick action. The type of oil used is not relevant.
n the US, PAM is made with vegetable oil, olive oil, canola oil and maybe other oils too.
There are other generic brands of non-stick cooking oil available and all work about the same in both cooking and lubricating.   vette59jdwl
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on November 08, 2015, 09:35:06 PM
Cool table TFoch .  8)
I need to also make a safety cover for the blade. The previous owner removed it for some stupid reason. :o
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on November 21, 2015, 09:58:31 PM
Today I had to take a trailer load to the dump and asked if they could weigh my car. After dropping the trailer off, I jumped in the car and went back.
3100lbs.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on January 03, 2016, 01:37:22 PM
Im getting ready to start on the steering box swap. There is one thing im concerned about. Id like to know what the original box turning ratio is.???

The reversed Corvair box is 20:1  .
Also the pitman arm is 2" shorter.

Id hate to make the steering harder than it already is.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: EDNY on January 03, 2016, 02:27:07 PM
I mounted my H/V saw on a frame as I only use it as a band saw.  I made a larger table for it and it works great.

Here is a conversion I did:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1wLX_l_OdQ
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: themoose on January 03, 2016, 09:00:23 PM
I mounted my H/V saw on a frame as I only use it as a band saw.  I made a larger table for it and it works great.

That's pretty good ED. I especially like how you're able to control the speed. I have a small drill press that the motor burned out on and I replaced it with a motor off of a tread mill. Has far more torque that the old motor.




Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on January 05, 2016, 12:51:22 AM
Cool conversion.
I got the new blade on mine. Seems to work good.
Can't wait to start cutting steel.

Back to the steering box.
I found out the original box is a 12:1 ratio.
So the new box should work out great.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on January 06, 2016, 11:04:09 PM
Some progress on the saw. Just gotta attach the hinges.

Made a plan on the steering box.
Need some 5" channel to make a mount.
Guess I'll get looking at some U-joints and shafts.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on January 09, 2016, 05:22:08 PM
Tried to get the column loose. Those darn original sloted screws. They will be getting drilled out but first im gonna wire up all my lights on the Jeep. It's funner to work on at the moment. Plus they were sitting on the shelf for a long while..
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on January 14, 2016, 12:32:20 AM
Oh no. Look at what I did.  ;D
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on January 21, 2016, 12:13:30 AM
Today I picked up my bushings from the machinist. We ended up using delrin for the column and he made me a steel collar for the shaft itself, to up its size from 7/8" to 1". So a 1" u-joint will fit.
The column bushing is 7/8" ID and 1-3/8"OD.
Also made a template to make a steering box mount.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on January 26, 2016, 01:24:09 AM
Well . Today I ran into a issue . When mocking up the steering box to the original hole in the frame .
Id have to notch out the top of the frame to make it work.  Dont want to do that. :o
If I lower the box down near the bottom of the frame it seems to tuck in better to get the shaft out the frame. This requires me to weld up the original hole and drill a new hole down lower. The bottom of the frame should be reinforced with the mounting plate I'll be welding in.
Give me your thoughts on this.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on January 26, 2016, 09:13:23 AM
It sounds like lowering the box is the way to go, my only concern then would be the scrub line.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on January 27, 2016, 02:22:47 PM
I think im good there. The original pitman are is 7-1/2" and the new arm is 5.5". Lowering the box will give me back an inch. So it will be like I have a 6.5" arm.
Also figured Out how Im gonna modify the ride control rod. I'll cut it and reweld it to the other side, then make the rod longer.
Tonight I'll drill the hole in the frame and cringe while doing it.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: ghost28 on January 27, 2016, 10:03:19 PM
You are getting after it. looks good
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on January 29, 2016, 02:50:20 PM
Tonight I'll drill the hole in the frame and cringe while doing it.

Nah!! It's just a hole ::)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: 62131 on January 29, 2016, 10:26:26 PM
As I've been tol it's just metal, it can be fixed
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on May 08, 2016, 07:55:07 PM
Well. The reversed corvair box didn't work out and was sent back to get a Vega cross steer box.
Kinda bummed me out and haven't touched the car in months. Parts are sitting there waiting to be installed.

On another note :::
Im going to start switching all my pics to attachments since my photo hosting site is giving me fits.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: EDNY on May 08, 2016, 11:33:01 PM
Have you tried:   http://s15.photobucket.com/
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on May 09, 2016, 01:21:53 AM
Yeah. That's what I use. Terrible, page freezes up and takes forever to load pics.
Just trying to simplify things.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: vette59jdwl on May 09, 2016, 11:25:37 AM
Rattiac:::What i did was put the word out that i was looking for an external hard drive someone found one for me 1000 gigabytes for 20 bucks  sure its and IDE drive but who cares.I just plug it in to a USB port and power and BINGO my computer recognized it,so i put everything over on the external hard drive  it will probably hold a million pictures and no one uses these any more  no one except me    vette59jdwl   ps  save everything to my documents and then send to external drive when you do not want the external drive running just unplug it  simple  ah
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sixball on May 09, 2016, 02:01:57 PM
Well here we all are at the same point. ::) While I type this I am deleting my entire iPhoto library. It became so large that it crashes iPhoto when I open it. I got some trail cameras to help keep track of trespassers. They have motion sensors and take great pictures of weeds when the wind blows. 8 pictures every 5 seconds in a storm. Each camera has a 3.5 gb card. In one download session I filled my remaining hard drive space. First I pulled weeds.  ;D Then I got an app called iPhoto Library Manager. With it I can set up several photo libraries. One will be for the trail cams. It can be dealt with separately so this won't happen again at this level. With the trail cams very few of the photos are keepers but I need to load them so I can sort them. I can reload my iPhoto library from my backup drive and will only loose a few pictures. Must of the good stuff is hosted on Picasa any way. I needed to clean up my photos anyway just not today.  It'll probably take a couple of days or nights. The trash is still working on over 120,000 items. :(
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on May 09, 2016, 11:10:24 PM
Beats a Brownie or Instamatic ;D
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sixball on May 10, 2016, 12:45:59 AM
That was my first camera.  8) Well my plan didn't work and I lost the whole iPhoto library. At least the hosted pictures are still on Picasa and I have several discs from when I upgraded the OS. The backup using Time Machine needs the old files to rebuild not just replace. Maybe with what I have I can get it to work. I like working on cars better. You can usually see what's wrong. ;D
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: EDNY on May 10, 2016, 08:13:05 AM
I bought one of these off eBay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SATA-PATA-IDE-to-USB-2-0-Adapter-Converter-Cable-for-2-5-3-5-Inch-Hard-Drive-B-/271988677499?hash=item3f53c9db7b:g:UYQAAOSwhcJWPGAs
 
I can take a crashed computer, remove the hard drive whether it's IDE or SATA and connect it to another PC externally to read and copy pictures etc  just like a thumb drive.

Can also use any hard drive for storage just like a thumb drive. Bought plastic hard drive storage cases for the hard drives out of my old PC's and have pictures stored on them.

If your PC crashes....pull the hard drive before tossing it - data and pictures may be easily recoverable. Works with both desktop and laptop computer hard drives.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: vette59jdwl on May 10, 2016, 12:04:27 PM
Sixball  I had a very similar problem to many dang pictures of nothing so what i did was to get me one of those motion sensors with the light in them only i took the light out and used a screw in piece that goes from light bulb end to plug in 110 then i plugged that into the camera.what you do first is to set the whole thing up and a good time to do that would be on a windy day set the sensitivity so it is just beyond coming on then get the wife to walk across the path and see if it comes on if it does not then set it back a tad.I have mine set for people racoons and deer.  vette59jdwl
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sixball on May 10, 2016, 02:11:26 PM
Two cameras are 1/4 mile from power and two are 1/2 mile. I think I've got it under control now. I got all my pictures back up to mid March and most of the rest are on cameras, sim cards, and my phone. The cool thing about being old is that I've already forgotten the ones that are missing. ::)

About this Pontiac: Don't get discouraged. It's too cool of a car to give up on. Nothing else will get you to those great photo spots with as much class. It's builds like yours that keep my roadster dream alive. I need the incentive.  8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on May 11, 2016, 02:14:13 AM
I'll keep my P.B. but just gonna reduce some pics. I have alot of my trip reports from my off-road stuff which I delete after a few months.

Hoping I can get some time to get this steering box swapped out soon and maybe hit the Pontiac show.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: vette59jdwl on May 11, 2016, 11:30:27 AM
Rattiac  I am actually think of electronic steering for the 32 but have not delved into the works of it enough to make a positive dicision.   vette59jdwl
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on June 07, 2016, 12:41:06 AM
New shiny parts.  :o
 ;D
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on June 07, 2016, 07:29:27 PM
Now, let's get them on!!! :)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sammons on June 07, 2016, 08:31:09 PM
Go man go! Get her done so you can get some traveling yet this summer. ;D
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on June 07, 2016, 08:35:05 PM
Yeah let us know how everything fits up.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on June 07, 2016, 09:40:28 PM
The fender is off. I did some official "mocking up" .
Had to remove the fuel pump but I think that will work going back on.


I may have to relocate this fender mount tab to bring the box back an inch or so.

Pics.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on June 10, 2016, 01:52:19 AM
Started making a mount. Using the bracket that came with plus using 1/4"plate to box the frame.

The bottom of the frame is a bit wider than the top.

Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: ghost28 on June 10, 2016, 11:24:13 PM
Looks good and strong.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on June 14, 2016, 02:08:48 AM
Got the mount welded up and ready for the steering box.
Burned it onto the car tonight.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: ghost28 on June 14, 2016, 10:30:04 AM
Getting closer.  :)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on June 15, 2016, 12:13:52 AM
After a little bit more welding. The box is in.  ;D
Cutting the column tomorrow.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on June 15, 2016, 11:13:45 PM
Well, darn. I was hoping to get the steering shaft done tonight but.......... Turns out the sleeve I had machined is a bit too big . So back to the machinist.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: ghost28 on June 16, 2016, 10:19:28 AM
A minor set back. The project is looking good.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on June 16, 2016, 10:48:06 AM
Yes, Rattiac, we've all had minor setbacks. I had my front and rear ends in and out several times "cutting and fitting" to get it just right. It's kind of.....fun ::)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on June 18, 2016, 11:28:18 PM
I was able to use a piece of electrical conduit for that sleeve. Worked perfectly.
Made a tiny hole for a set screw to hold the bushing in place.

Also got my fender back from the metalshaper. It cost me a few hundred bucks but it was worth it. The whole fender got straightened and fixed where it was cracked and creased. Along with the 3" that rusted out near the running board mount.
Super happy with it.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on June 18, 2016, 11:31:27 PM
More fender pics.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on June 18, 2016, 11:38:24 PM
Now I gotta order new steering arms , a drag link and make a lower steering column mount. Cant find anything for a 1-1/2" column.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sammons on June 19, 2016, 06:41:15 AM
Lookin good, definatley progress ;D
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on June 28, 2016, 07:37:14 PM
Drag link,  steering arms,  spacers and tierod bolt kit.
New parts going on right now.
 ;D
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on June 29, 2016, 09:05:15 PM
I put the drag link on and decided it needed a bend.
It has one sideways bend in it but needs another up down bend to clear the leafs turning left.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on June 30, 2016, 09:02:43 PM
The two bends I put in today worked out perfectly.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on July 02, 2016, 10:05:21 AM
Looks good nice work,
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on July 05, 2016, 10:28:33 PM
Made the bracket for the column mount. I finally got to use my bandsaw.  8)
Welded some tabs on it so I can use a hose clamp to clamp it together tightly.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on July 06, 2016, 01:04:19 AM
Nice work, Rattiac! How did you bend the drag link?
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: ghost28 on July 06, 2016, 10:33:24 PM
Don't you just love fabricating stuff? Nice.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on July 08, 2016, 12:37:22 AM
We have a bender at work.
Fabbin is fun. Especially when it's free.  ;D

Today the fuel pump went back on and the column mount is done.
I gotta bend the fuel line and maybe a test drive tomorrow.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on July 11, 2016, 11:41:29 PM
Hell yeah !
Test drive did great. Only around the neighborhood though.
Im amazed at how easy the steering is. Almost too easy. All that's left is I need to adjust the toe. Im toed out right now  .
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on July 12, 2016, 08:25:14 PM
Nice work Rattiac!  You'll be cruising around real soon!
Tom
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on July 13, 2016, 01:22:47 AM
Thanks.

Today me and a neighbor did an alignment.
I set it at 1/8" toe in and centered  the steering wheel.
Did another test drive. Drove even better.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: ghost28 on July 13, 2016, 08:51:12 AM
I'm impressed brother. Nice detailed work.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on July 14, 2016, 12:30:38 AM
I had a guy cut me out some circles 1/4" thick so I can fill the holes in the frame.
Got those burned in tonight. One step closer to putting the fender back on.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on July 18, 2016, 07:40:48 PM
Yesterday I got the frame holes all smoothed out and got the fender, marker light ,and headlight back on.
Today I drove it to the alignment shop (kind of scary).
It was just a tiny bit off , plus we adjusted the steering box . Drove alot better but.... These bias plys has got to go. Im sure radials will make a huge difference.
Also washed out the engine bay.  8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on August 30, 2016, 01:03:57 AM
Haven't done much the last few weeks. Just been getting used to the new steering box. Went to a carshow or two.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on August 30, 2016, 07:16:52 AM
How are you liking that new steering box?  Does she track nice and straight?
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on August 30, 2016, 02:13:23 PM
So far I like it. Alot easier to steer, especially when low speed entering parking spots, ect. No more tired arms  ;D  . Almost like power steering.

The tires still grab lines in the road . I need to do some burnouts , so I can switch to a set of radials I have sitting here in the shop.

Once my fuel issue is taken care of, I'll start getting the receiver done to pull the teardrop. Hopefully by Labor Day.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sammons on August 30, 2016, 06:07:33 PM
Rattiac i'm glad all that worked out well for you!  I believe as much money they get out of those bias plys, i'd sell them.  Keep at it man, before long it will be a pleasure to drive. ;)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 01, 2016, 08:58:37 PM
Thanks.
Im not sure if those would sell here. They were bought new in the early 90's from Sears for a 46 Chevy that spent more time sitting than anything. I bought em for $80 and they are showing some slight cracking even though the treads are barely worn . He put just over 2,000 miles on them and I have hit 1,400 miles recently. So I think it would be best to send them to tire heaven in a cloud of smoke.  8)

Plus I like pissing off my one  "rental" neighbor.  ;D
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sammons on September 01, 2016, 09:16:58 PM
Haha, smoke away. I hope they squeal to!   I've been on the same property since '82, there was a rental property across the street. I put up with different come and go renters, always complaining about every little thing for 4yrs. If I seen them showing the place, I would crank the stereo all the way and jump in the car and leave rubber.  Some just left.  The ones that stayed with all that right up front were real good! ;D
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 03, 2016, 11:28:48 PM
Started building the trailer hitch today.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 04, 2016, 11:30:10 PM
Trailer hitch done.
This seemed the best way to keep it from twisting and help reinforce the mounting was to tie it in to the spare tire bracket. From what I remember that had a strong mount.
Spare tire is moved up 2" .

Now I just have to wire up a trailer harness and flip the ball.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: ghost28 on September 05, 2016, 10:15:05 AM
The hitch looks good, and period correct. I put one on the roadster that is hidden behind the plate. You never know when you might want to haul a small trailor or even one of those slide in carriers. Good job
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 05, 2016, 07:03:43 PM
Thanks. Maybe tomorrow I can test tow my teardrop.
I also put the right stage8 locking header bolts on and I put on a new shifter knob on.
 50 rodders points go to whoever guesses where the knob comes from.  ;D

Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 07, 2016, 08:31:51 PM
Test drive with the trailer complete.  ;D
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: EDNY on September 07, 2016, 09:33:03 PM
Always liked those trailers....

How'd the test drive go? Does the steering feel tight with the front end lacking some weight? Could you get some adjustable air shocks out back?
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 07, 2016, 10:19:30 PM
Test drive did well. The rear only lowered about an inch. Steering seems fine, didnt notice much difference. Backing it up took a bit of practice with the 4" mirrors.

I do have some small airbags but....... I am leaning towards air shocks for the ease of installation. I'll have to weld in a crossmember and shock mounts on the axle. I'll do that this winter when I have the floor out to do the steel conversion.
Just wondering about shock lengths and what will work. Maybe something from a camaro.

Still need to wire it up for trailer lights  , in the next few days.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sixball on September 08, 2016, 12:30:00 PM
More fun! Now you don't have to go home at night. :o
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 19, 2016, 12:10:04 AM
Got the trailer harness hooked up on the car end. Lights all worked great and even towed it to a carshow. I thought I would feel the rear suspension bottom out on a few big bumps but..... To my surprise  it soaked em up no problem.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on October 16, 2016, 03:57:32 PM
So. Im planning my project for the winter.
I think it's about time I take on this rotten wood and convert it to steel.

In the last  few weeks I've been cleaning up shop, selling what I can and giving away the rest. Also some runs to the dump.
I'll be documenting this here once I get to removing wood.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: ghost28 on October 16, 2016, 07:38:48 PM
Just remember, we all have faith in you and were here for moral support also. :)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: 62131 on October 16, 2016, 07:59:54 PM
It takes a little thought and a lot of patience, I now have mine completed and almost drivable after 3-1/2 years, wish I had time to work on it more. Good luck 
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sammons on October 16, 2016, 09:44:35 PM
Rattiac, ^^^same as above^^^.   And if you get a headache in the "Thinking Chair", give a shout out! ;)    Many on here have done that conversion, and I'm guessing many different ways for each individual car.  Good luck, be safe and have fun. :)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on October 17, 2016, 08:11:31 PM
Looking forward to watching the project.  I'm sure it'll come out great!
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on October 18, 2016, 11:19:44 AM
We'll all be watching closely. Post lots of pictures. And, you know, some of the guys on here are the best at this stuff if you need help. Good luck!!! ;)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on October 22, 2016, 03:08:58 PM
Thanks guys. I'll probably be starting from the rear and working forward on the body frame . The last thing will be the doors (should be more intensive).

I will be looking for your input in certain areas.
Sometimes it helps to get someone else's ideas when you hit a roadblock.

We could also post this in the Tech department to help others.

Right now im making room and cleaned up a bit.
A run to the dump today is on the list.
I collected too much stuff and need to minimalize.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: madmike3435 on October 22, 2016, 04:15:18 PM
the wood framing is what makes our 1935 and down gm cars special.

Exactly why are you taking the wood out and replacing it with steel.  Your creating a huge job that if not done right can create more problems than you started out with.

A band saw, 3--4" wide sander, assorted wood chisels , jig saw, and lastly a wood plane either power or hand.

remember all steel cars go boing, gm goes thud, nice and solid.

mike lynch
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on October 22, 2016, 07:33:10 PM
Cause I want to do it once and be done with it.
Safer also.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on October 26, 2016, 10:25:00 PM
Damn. My brakes are so good, it wont let me do a burnout.
 So I just ordered a Summit knob valve thingy to solve that problem.  ;D
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: madmike3435 on October 27, 2016, 05:06:29 PM
Cause I want to do it once and be done with it.
Safer also.

ACTUALLY THAT MISCONCEPTION IS WRONG.......METAL TO METAL IS WEAKER THAN WOOD TOO METAL.

THE WOOD ALLOWS THE METAL TO SPRING BACK AND ACTUALLY OFFERS RESISTANCE TO BENDING AND STAYING BENT.

A TEST ON A 1930 MODEL A FORD WITH 1500 POUNDS WEIGHT ON THE FRONT RIGHT CORNER CAUSED THE WINDSHIELD FRAME TO BEND, THE GLASS BREAK AND THE DOOR POST BEND.   NONE OF THE ABOVE HAPPENED TO THE WOOD RE-INFORCED 1930 CHEVROLET.

GOOGLE IT

MIKE    8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sammons on October 27, 2016, 07:17:18 PM
To each his own. I did it for these reasons (pics) and NHRH dosen't allow harwood roll bars. :D  I'm better with steel than wood.

Mikes right on quiet solid sound to door closings and wood does absorb/muffel road noise. Wood structure does do well in loads and twisting returns.  But when my butt is strapped in, I want as much steel around me as practical.  Both will be done after a hard crash, but  I want to have the best chance I can to walk away after. But thats just me. ;)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on October 27, 2016, 08:21:52 PM
Yeah, I would like to take mine to the drags a few times just for fun. Doubt I'd pass tech the way it is.  :o
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on October 28, 2016, 02:46:45 PM
That was fast!!!  Ordered it Wednesday night.
Burnouts soon to come.  8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on January 17, 2017, 09:03:28 PM
Ahh. I guess I do have an update.
 8)

1600 miles.  ;D
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on January 28, 2017, 03:27:14 PM
So I had a dream the other day. It was a really good dream.
My car was on "fast and loud" . I told them I didn't want the body changed in any other way than the rust fixed and painted (near) original . Not totally original paint but slightly customized.
At the end of the episode where they tell what was done to the car, it had.........

Black fenders with a very slight metal flake and the body was done in a really dark candy blue, black body line/top . Black Cloth convertible for the top with a slider type deal.
Interior done in dark cherry brown leather seats and tan cloth walls, black carpet.
Rolling stock was big radial whitewalls, same wheels in black of course and newly chromed Pontiac hub caps.
Suspension received a nice riding IFS in front and lowered 1.5"
Drivetrain was treated to a roots blower for the GN 3.8 engine and overdrive transmission.
As my car was sitting there rotating T.V. style in all it's beauty and shinyness .....
I woke up !!!!

Man that was a good dream.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: ghost28 on January 28, 2017, 03:45:25 PM
Dreams have a way of coming true.HOPE HOPE HOPE.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sixball on January 28, 2017, 07:15:13 PM
An what would you do with the car you own now?  ::)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: EDNY on January 28, 2017, 10:06:27 PM
Just to help with the wood versus metal framing discussion...just thought I would toss this auction out:

It's for a "wood welder"

http://www.auctionsinternational.com/auction/9875/item/workrite-wood-welder-59835
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on January 31, 2017, 02:27:46 PM
I've been seeing some metallic blacks on newer vehicles that look pretty interesting.
The dream was interesting cause I never had a vision on what the car looked like finished.
Now I have a good idea of what I want.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on February 13, 2017, 11:03:00 PM
Just when I thought I had all the oil leaks fixed another poped its ugly head. Looks like it's coming from the oil pressure sending unit again.
I need to find something better to seal the copper elbow going to the sender.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on May 14, 2017, 04:07:18 PM
Mounted the original horn near the factory location .
Ha,ha I got it working. Its sooo LOUD.  :o ;D
I probably shouldn't be hitting this with 12volts. I need to figure out how to get it down to 6volts, so it sounds right.

Also getting ready to do a "total timing" on the 231 V6.
Any advice on that ?
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on May 15, 2017, 10:17:13 AM
A super-quick ebay search came up with this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-to-6V-DC-DC-Buck-Converter-Step-Down-Module-Power-Supply-Voltage-Regulato-H1-/282333107446?_trksid=p2385738.m2548.l4275

I'm sure you will find exactly what you need for that horn without a problem.
Total timing... I defer to Moose and maybe one of his "tech tips".
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on May 15, 2017, 02:13:02 PM
I did find something small that they use for 6v gauges, I may try one of those.

I've read probably a hundred different threads on "total timing" enough to confuse myself again.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: themoose on May 16, 2017, 09:08:46 AM
Jeff...There are all sorts of variables that determine what an engine needs for total timing. Camshaft grind, compression ratio,fuel mixture and delivery system, distributor centrifugal weights and springs and also how the engine will be used as in normal street driving verses racing where for full advance at and above a certain RPM range must be considered. If the engine is stock and you will be using it for all around street style driving I would I would just set the timing as per GM specs. Set the initial timing and the total timing will take care of itself. There is always a lot of discussion about whether you should use ported of manifold vacuum for distributor advance and if you look at my tech post on the subject (Timing and Vacuum Advance 101 (http://rustybowtie.com/index.php?topic=53.0)) you'll probably get some good insight as to why manifold vacuum makes most sense and why and if I remember correctly the stock Pontiac did use manifold vacuum as per their diagram. I would guess that you should have somewhere around 36 to 38 degrees total advance but depending on driveability concerns such as pinging you might have to "Tweak" the timing to suite your needs. I've found that when you using an engine for applications other that how it was designed you have to play around with timing and see what works best for your application. Have fun!!

Moose
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sixball on May 16, 2017, 12:18:03 PM
Horns take more juice than gauges. Most horns had a horn relay so all of it didn't have to run through the horn button. . Places like J C Whitney sued to sell ceramic based ones in lots of sizes. I got one for my son's Studebaker to run the heater. I think this would work

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/uxcell-DC12V-24V8V-40V-Step-Down-to-DC-6V-20A-120W-Waterproof-Power-Supply/201720448003?_trksid=p2045573.c100506.m3226&_trkparms=aid%3D555014%26algo%3DPL.DEFAULT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D41376%26meid%3Df967be19c6424912b16bd776be00e854%26pid%3D100506%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on May 17, 2017, 12:25:28 AM
So I finally got the car out and took my daily to the body shop. Drove it to work and of course it's susposed to snow tomorrow. :o
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on May 26, 2017, 10:37:42 PM
Time for an "Artsy pic". 8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on June 22, 2017, 09:14:55 PM
Yeah, the "total timing" thing didn't work out. We did everything according to procedure but.......
It fell flat on its face. Put it back to initial timing. :(

Not much done these last few months on the car.
Today it did get an official spare tire mounted to a matching wheel. Just gotta make a bracket to bolt it to. :)

Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sammons on June 23, 2017, 10:44:36 AM
Keep at it man :)   Wish I had room for a spare!
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on June 23, 2017, 06:50:05 PM
My spare is a can of fix-a-flat and AAA.  ;D
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sixball on June 23, 2017, 09:31:55 PM
...and a plug kit. :)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on June 25, 2017, 10:56:03 AM
It's the hot time of the season. Less cars show up at the shows.
I need to measure for a electric pusher fan, good thing I already have the wire routed.

Also need to start modifying a C-clamp to get the door hinges apart.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: madmike3435 on June 25, 2017, 05:38:10 PM
 How about one of the late 60's inflatable spares that came in the camero firebird, mustang cougar cars.

It also came with a metal air bottle, anybody know if you can refill one of those ?????

mike lynch
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on June 26, 2017, 08:52:22 PM
I got great news via text today.
The Pontiac carshow is happening !  8)
Been waiting for this for awhile, cant wait.  ;D


Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on June 27, 2017, 07:09:25 AM
Be sure to bring your camera, we want pics ;D
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on June 27, 2017, 08:07:13 PM
Will do. 8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sammons on June 27, 2017, 09:25:13 PM
Heres a Pontiac for ya Rattiac ;D    I stumbled back across it 2days ago moving my Chevy parts around in the basement. Dad found it in an old silage trash pit back in the early 80s. I had to sand and blast the scum/rust off, it had a dead coon stinking on the seat. About gagged doing it. He straighted and painted up for little sis, she must have peddled a couple hundred miles up and down the sidewalk.  I redone it for her in 2004, she brought it over so her kids wouldn't beat it up ;)  I put it in my living room  :)

1948 Murry Pontiac FireChief
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on June 27, 2017, 09:38:47 PM
Very cool.  8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on July 01, 2017, 11:18:38 AM
I've heard reports of photobucket not allowing 3rd party links anymore.
Mine haven't been affected "yet" but this next week I'll be converting all the pics over to attachments.
I liked the bigger pics to show more of the details people need to help in thier builds.
So you'll have to register/log on this awesome site to see the attachments.

Sorry and thank you for viewing my build over the years.
There's still plenty more to come.
The next phase is just around the corner. 8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sammons on July 01, 2017, 02:13:02 PM
Rattiac, i'll be following :)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on July 01, 2017, 06:17:52 PM
Me too, thanks for posting :D
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on July 07, 2017, 07:23:03 PM
I rolled the top up on the car. First time doing that since I've sewn it up. Maybe a night drive is in order.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on July 26, 2017, 12:28:54 AM
Waiting to be mounted. The darkness is approaching.
 :o
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on July 31, 2017, 11:44:30 PM
New taillights are in. LEDs are gone.
Our best guess
A diode had failed and resulted in blown turn signal fuses.
I liked having the brightest taillights but I can't have this happen on a long distance trip, easier to replace a bulb.

I think the bulb lights look better in a way.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on August 05, 2017, 08:41:52 PM
Alrighty then !
After new taillights, turn signal switch and HD flasher I think the electrical gremlin has been found.
Boy those taillights look sinister. ;D

Pic;;;; notice the blue wire. :o


Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: FATnLOW on August 05, 2017, 08:47:03 PM
Glad you found your gremlin....
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: ghost28 on August 05, 2017, 09:06:28 PM
Glad you got it figured out.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on August 06, 2017, 01:23:13 AM
Saw one of these exhaust caps at a Ag store close by and was tempted to try it out.

Had to flip the cap around and reweld it to get it to work at this angle.
2nd pic is at idle .
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on August 06, 2017, 06:07:10 AM
Glad you found the problem!
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on August 06, 2017, 08:45:32 PM
Thanks. I went on a test drive . No blown fuses and all lights are working properly.
 :)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: 62131 on August 07, 2017, 06:24:15 PM
Alrighty then !
After new taillights, turn signal switch and HD flasher I think the electrical gremlin has been found.
Boy those taillights look sinister. ;D

Pic;;;; notice the blue wire. :o

Glad you found the problem, the way you were describing it the switch almost had to be the culprit.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Kiwijeff on August 13, 2017, 10:39:14 AM
I've just whizzed through the whole thread, don't remember if I ever looked at it before.
A lot of pics are not working at the start,  but there's enough at this end.
Very cool Pontiac, I'll keep checking in, cause I know there's a burn out vid coming. ;D
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on August 13, 2017, 06:22:40 PM
Looks like I need to fire up the computer and fix those pics.
Thanks for letting me know.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on August 15, 2017, 12:18:14 AM
I have the first 3 pages fixed.  8)
Hopefully tomorrow I can knock the rest out.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on August 15, 2017, 05:59:20 PM
Good job Rattiac, you have to feel like a little weight has been lifted off.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on August 18, 2017, 02:21:51 PM
Oh yeah. I feel much better. Now I can move onto other projects.

At a carshow yesterday there was this 1930 Oakland with modern shocks set up on a 55 truck axle.
Now I have a better idea of what I need to do.
I'll leave these pics for future reference.
Notice how many leafs up front.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Kiwijeff on August 19, 2017, 06:45:34 PM
Cool, I'll go check em out after I'm done at the studio today.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on August 20, 2017, 01:21:38 AM
Another local 32 for reference pics.
55 chev truck axle and steering arms for upper shock mounts.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 05, 2017, 08:27:14 PM
Alright guy's, I need some help here. Starting to measure for front shocks. How do I go about this properly ?
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on September 07, 2017, 01:11:31 PM
Do these help?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPbiQOMOesI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8rD3Of0ZR4
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 07, 2017, 10:05:33 PM
The 1st vid explained it in simple terms that I like.
Thanks. 8)

Amazing how so many others can make it soooo confusing. ::)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 08, 2017, 11:49:33 PM
New shocks and towers are on order.
I'll be tearing the original front "ride control" shocks off hopefully this weekend.

I can keep the rears cause they actually work and it's getting a set of skyjackers to help level things when towing.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 13, 2017, 10:53:46 PM
It's official. It's going modern.

New parts are in with a quick hand mockup.
I'll flip the shock over to get a better idea on travel.

Im thinking hide the tower behind the shock cause it looks better and get a wider part of the frame to weld to.

Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 16, 2017, 11:53:10 AM
Unbolted the original shocks from the axle and found there is no resistance at all, up or down.  :o
Also the fluid is gone.
Well, they worked for alitte while.

Now I dont feel so bad.
Im on my way to get some lower mounts. Be back soon.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on September 16, 2017, 12:15:03 PM
New shocks should improve your ride ;)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 23, 2017, 05:22:36 PM
So this is really STUPID.
When I put the new steering box in, I blocked one of the bolts to remove the original "ride control" shocks. :o
Now I have to figure a way to get a modified wrench on it and turn it a 1/2" at a time.
 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: ghost28 on September 24, 2017, 09:11:53 AM
I hate when that happens. What are you gonna do to modify the wrench?
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sammons on September 24, 2017, 09:22:35 AM
Rattiac don't feel alone, even some factory built cars have been assembled that way. I have many modified tools that dad and I have made thru the years for such problems. ;)   Dad was a master at making goofy looking tools, I still run across one every now and then that I have no clue what he built them for. 
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sixball on September 24, 2017, 11:13:59 AM
My mom had a '60 Ford convertible that I never figured out how to remove the left rear spark plug.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 24, 2017, 09:08:33 PM
I went to harbor freight and picked up a set of offset box end wrenches. Had to cut 6" off the 19mm for it to fit in the frame.
Couldn't budge the bolt with the wrench so I took a hammer to the shock itself to break it loose.

Made alot of progress.
Sure wish I could post pics.  :-\
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: madmike3435 on September 25, 2017, 10:55:13 AM
back plug , get to it.  I had a 67 cougar 390 that the back plug was nuts to get too.

 Either use a few universal wiggly joints , tried that,  or as we ended up doing , using a hole saw to get a socket thru the fender well and onto the offending plug.

Absolutely everything on that car was tough to get to.

mike       8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sixball on September 25, 2017, 11:32:53 AM
Try working on a Bobcat. The only thing accessible is the fuel filler cap. I'm selling mine to keep me from torching it. 
Rat at least you didn't have to ruin and real tools.
 Mike, my mom sold the '60 Sunliner and bought a Cougar. I quit doing her tuneups.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: madmike3435 on September 26, 2017, 01:42:53 AM
the 289 was easy to do, the 390--427--428 big block was as tight as hell.

Wonder what the guys who were racing these cougar / mustangs did at the track. ???? a 7 plug change.

mike
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on October 25, 2017, 10:11:25 PM
Hmmm.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on October 31, 2017, 05:22:39 PM
Long story short but removed the ride control and now have modern shocks.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on November 01, 2017, 09:52:20 AM
Looks great! Well worth the 'cyphering.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on November 01, 2017, 12:43:45 PM
Nice work!
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sixball on November 01, 2017, 06:42:27 PM
How does it ride. Were the old units single action, only dampen in one direction?
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on November 01, 2017, 07:51:45 PM
Rides much better. Not getting the bouncyness like before. I think the old units were single action, would only work on rebounds not compression.

I may pull one more leaf from the pack but I want to see what improvements radials do.
That's the next mod.
Bye, bye whitewalls.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sixball on November 02, 2017, 10:35:57 AM
I have another broken spring on my '53 pickup. I have broken several of my "slimmer" sets, but it is a pickup and so used and it travels a rough road.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on November 02, 2017, 02:07:07 PM
Maybe try lowering the psi in your tires to help take the shock out of the bumps. If your running 35, go to 30. It helps on the gravel roads.

Just to give you an idea;;;; off-road I run down to 18 , maybe more depending on how hardcore the trail or length.
But im sure you truck bed is full of gear so airing down may not be an option.

My neighbor works for AAA spring if ya need any spring work done LMK .
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on November 06, 2017, 09:09:00 PM
So, this happened.
Year I was born and just the other day.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on November 07, 2017, 07:15:44 AM
Very cool 8)  Glad to see you're racking up some miles!
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sixball on November 07, 2017, 04:12:18 PM
Mile Stones...as apposed to Miles Stoned :o
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on November 23, 2017, 12:56:37 PM
Only took me a few years.  ;D
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on February 04, 2018, 06:14:11 PM
Went for a drive today to flush some new gas through the system.
Saw this "old west town" and decided to rob the bank.  ;)
Probably last pic with the whitewalls .
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on February 04, 2018, 06:31:39 PM
Gotta be careful robbing banks, could end up with some bullet holes in that Pontiac ;D
Cool pics!
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sixball on February 05, 2018, 12:59:28 AM
Well you can't rob gas stations anymore unless you paint a pistol on you credit card. ::)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on February 05, 2018, 08:49:33 PM
Had a scary incident on the way home from there.
I drove on one of our newer highways since it was smoother. Going over a bridge there was a bump and the car just went left :o . Thankfully nobody was next to me.
I think I'll be putting the stabilizer shock back on and the tires will be gone next week.
I can't take it anymore. They look cool but handing sucks.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on February 10, 2018, 02:05:53 PM
I think I'll start trying to find me a overdrive transmission this summer. Going with the th2004r. Looking online monster transmissions had a built unit for $900 ish. Seems like a decent deal.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on February 11, 2018, 03:53:47 PM
Welcome to the dark side !!!
Phase 2 (improving driveability) is finally done.
Whitewalls are officially gone. Putting radials on helped a lot. No more avoiding lines/seams in the road. This is huge. 8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: madmike3434 on February 11, 2018, 07:45:26 PM
why do you think the Pontiac went hard to one side when you hit a bump ?

Aren't the whitewalls radials ?

Note.........if your going 700-R4 or 200-R4, if your going to be running a holley carb, you need a special bracket $40 ??? that attaches to the carb that changes the PULL ANGLE on the TV cable into the trans.

The cable has to be adjusted perfectly as per instructions so the trans does burn out.  I am pretty sure ATI trans makes makes the bracket.  Also Holley also now offers it too. For the 700-R4 they ATI also make a special, plug 4 gang , that goes into the electrical connection and also a special plug into a pass side port on the side of the trans that makes the 88--91 700-R4 shift into overdrive. 

Have one of these on my 35 coupe with 700-R4 for years , late 90's .  I bought all the stuff for a 700_R4 but decided will go to a tremec 6 speed stick, unless I decide to not do the tremec

mike
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on February 11, 2018, 08:01:59 PM
Nope, bias plys. I think it was the angle the bridge I crossed was at. In construction zones where asphalt and concrete are seamed together the car would do a pretty good wiggle that scares the crap out of ya. :o :(

Drives so much better now. ;D
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on March 14, 2018, 02:47:14 PM
Saw this on Facebook and will be joining the Lincoln highway tour.
I have almost a year to get the wood out and converted to steel.  8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on March 25, 2018, 10:29:48 PM
While the weather was good yesterday. Had a flat tire fixed  as well as the spare was leaking. Also had them balanced but it started snowing on my way home so I couldn't tell if there was any difference.
Got tired of pumping up that tire every day.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on June 16, 2018, 07:09:38 PM
Operation ;  Cooler cruising has begun.  8)

Went to a radiator shop near me to see what they recommend. Nitrile camper tape they said seems to hold up the best.
1.) Camper tape 1.25"
2.) 11" fan
3.) Thermastatic fan control.
4.) 1.25" aluminum angle.
5.) EBay rubber bumper (3)
6.) Square mud flap pieces.
7.) 1/4" bolts/nuts, lock washers.

Im starting to use this hoist a lot lately. 3rd hand.


Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on June 29, 2018, 11:57:42 PM
Radiator re-mounting and electric fan install is done.
1st pic. ) EBay rubber bumpers
2.)  Stud facing down with red loctight.
3.) Side cradles with camper tape.
4.) Top mounts. Used a piece of mud flap between existing  bolt holes.
5.) Can barely see the electric pusher fan behind the grill.


Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: madmike3434 on June 30, 2018, 01:32:13 PM
RATTIC , take that stupid non functioning aluminum fan and deposit it in nearest scrap pile.  SERIOUSLY those things are useless....ya ya I can see bigger pitch and all that.........its scrap.

Get yourself a DERALE 6 blade all steel or main part steel, blades aluminum.  Come in various lengths, make sure short enough to clear lower inlet hose.

IF IT DOESN'T WORK I WILL SEND YOU THE $40 COST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TEST....start engine and run at 650--700 rpm idle.  Place cloth t shirt or cloth diaper foot away from grill mesh, then start moving it toward the mesh, when air grabs it and pulls t shirt/diaper to the mesh and holds it there, that's what you want.   Test first with alum flex you have on there and then do DERALE fan and test.

If I am wrong you get $40 USA money !!

post the results

MIKE LYNCH

Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on June 30, 2018, 02:33:16 PM
You do know this is the derale heavy duty fan, right ?  ;)

Though I will take you up on your challenge. I need the 15" unit. Not sure if the 17" will work on the drivers side.
Provide a link through jegs, summit or other and I'll order it today.  ;D

So, the project for today is new trans cooler lines.
I may have to shorten them up a bit. A small splice with rubber hose will do,  in the event I add an aux cooler down the road.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: madmike3434 on June 30, 2018, 09:43:10 PM
the one that was pictured by ***you*** earlier was the flexbile race fan, off to the scrap pile.

You need to measure from water pump snout to water outlet lower or trans cooler lines for length.  They come in 13--15--17--18".

Tried earlier to cut and paste link to the derale site and could not get it done.  Jegs and summit both sell it.

mike lynch
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on June 30, 2018, 10:44:47 PM
Took a screenshot of this.
Is this what your talking about ?
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: madmike3434 on July 01, 2018, 10:23:23 AM
yes, that's one of your choices, the other is the steel center with aluminum blades.  Same fan just diff blades.  The weight is a lot less with the aluminum blades.  Make sure you use red Loctite to make sure the bolts stay in.  Mine are safety wired also.

Note in description the blades are 28 degrees pitch to them, theres your air draw. 

That price is seriously less than what I have seen them normally advertised for.

mike lynchsize]
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on July 01, 2018, 02:00:14 PM
I ordered the aluminum blades version.
Kept with the 15" in case I needed to build a shroud but the blades will be closer to the radiator. I may have to go back to the 1" spacer.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: madmike3434 on July 01, 2018, 03:27:19 PM
RATTIC..........on the absolute hottest day we have had this year, I decided in a HEAT WAVE, to test the same fan as you have already. The SBC 305 in my phaeton, which I did not build the car, I DID THE TEST.  Been wanting to change the fan and today was the day.

A used rod run t shirt was placed in front of the radiator , a WALKER 2" thick , car started and idled too 650 held maybe half a second then slinked down to the fenders.   This was done 4 times in a row..   

I get the new DERALE 15" steel center with aluminum blades fan , gently file the pump snout hole of powder coat until it slips on.......its a 5/8" hole regular aluminum WP .   The big bearing corvette hi-po unit is 3/4".

OH OH , SHAZZBOTT,  Martha we got a problem.  The forward pitch of the derale fan hits the rad core down low as I turn it by hand.  The fan I am removing has no forward all rearward pitch.  There is no way to move the motor backwards to within a 1/2"--3/4" like the coupe , of the firewall. 

 To move the motor rearward with new side motor mounts attached to the block mount bosses as planned , will have to wait.  Means trans also moves rearward and might require driveshaft shortening. 


Anyway RATTIC , make sure you have adequate fan snout to radiator clearance.

I measured the Derale fan as having a forward pitch of 1 1/4", measured from the bottom of the steel center and eyeballing it.   You need to take info posted here into consideration.  Hope it works for you , as I will have to mail you $$$$$$$$$$$.

I will use either the steel or steel and aluminum fan on my 35 roadster build.......................shazzbott

mike lynch
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on July 01, 2018, 04:21:08 PM
It'll hold a sheet to it but not like when the electric fan comes on. :-\

Now I just need to find that shorter spacer , wherever I put it.  :o
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on July 01, 2018, 08:28:27 PM
I guess the derale fan that's on right now is meant for close tolerance situations.

New trans lines on and had a good test drive.
I love hearing the tires bark going into second gear. 😁
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: madmike3434 on July 02, 2018, 10:42:53 AM
was looking back in prior posts of this thread, damn, you got a lot of room in that engine compartment with the 32 Pontiac.  In a chevy its packed in there with barely enough room front to back to fit.

What is the motor in your Pontiac , a Pontiac ?????

A chevy has 107" wheelbase your Pontiac has a lot more like an Oldsmobile.  These Pontiacs we do not see enough of to know the engine bay is that long.   I do know they came with a inline six and also a V8 that was an Oakland engine.

How is your rear vision out the rear window ?

mike
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sixball on July 02, 2018, 12:07:41 PM
Mike , thanks for the mention of the Oakland V8 use in Pontiacs. I ran across an old Oakland at a ranch when in high school. I was not curious enough at the time. Very interesting engine with vintage race potential. Here is a ink to a good article.
https://www.pontiacoaklandmuseum.org/sites/default/files/storypdf/The-Oakland-V-Eight.pdf (https://www.pontiacoaklandmuseum.org/sites/default/files/storypdf/The-Oakland-V-Eight.pdf)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on July 03, 2018, 12:14:11 AM
The original 6 was 60hp and the Oakland 8 was only 20 more at the time.
Im running the 231 V6 (3.8ltr) from a Pontiac phoenix. Think Buick grand national without the turbo.
After all the metal/body work is done one day, I wouldn't mind throwing a turbo OR supercharger on it.
So far im enjoying this V6. My engine guy is rating it at around 250hp with the carb on it now.
My buddy rebuilt the trans and it shifts firm.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: madmike3434 on July 03, 2018, 09:11:50 AM
In a former self I was " The Gasket King ", from 1976 to 1991.  I specialized in 1909 to 1948 cylinder head gaskets, had 30,000 of them NOS.

I owned the company samples of every cylinder gasket that Fitzgerald gasket company Torrington CONN. produced.

 The original Oakland six inline had 3 cylinder heads cast in pairs .  Oakland street rods are few and far between rarely seen even at the NSRA nats I attended for many years.  Funny thing is there is one sitting outside a club about a mile from me.  Its a 4 door sedan with ?? motor trans.

The Oakland V8 I believe was made 1930--31 then car line was discontinued and driveline used in the 32 Pontiac.
When I sold the gasket King business I think I had about 25 head gaskets left to sell. It was very distinctive as it was bent in half right down the middle end to end.

mike lynch
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on July 05, 2018, 11:41:43 PM
I wonder if this fan will help you with your clearance situation.  ;)

Sorry pic is sideways.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: madmike3434 on July 06, 2018, 10:01:20 AM
Rattic, that's what's on my phaeton and does not pull to my satisfaction, like either the steel center with aluminum blades, or the all steel version.   Its the hooked end on the end of the blades that's causing the fan to hit the radiator core.   

Going to go visit my coupe that's in storage unit , with the Chrysler 6 blade and have a look at it.   Same idea lots of pitch without the hook  I believe.   Motor in coupe sits 1" farther back.   Also going to look into making aluminum spacer to raise rear of tailshaft up 1/2--3/4", which will change angle of motor in the car and fan away from bottom of radiator.

 Was going thru ebay last nite looking for one below 17".

mike lynch
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: madmike3434 on July 06, 2018, 06:41:16 PM
The fan thing is driving me nuts.

 Dug out my 2 all steel 15 & 16" fans.  After a lot of measuring, turns out the steel ones have less size to the blades....aluminum 4" and steel 3 1/4".

Comparing the forward pitch on the aluminum and the steel, the all steel has seriously less forward pitch and I believe this should now clear the radiator at the bottom. Because the fan is opened up at the snout from 5/8", too the larger corvette pump snout of 3/4" , I needed to make a sleeve out of a bearing as it centers the fan.

Tomorrow morning will find out the truth about whether we have clearance or not..........news at 11 as they say.

mike lynch
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on July 06, 2018, 08:10:02 PM
Drove it to work today. Temps 102.
I had the electric come on at 190, it never went over that. I didn't even need to change spacers after measurements the 2". The new fan is 3/4" from the radiator.
So far im pleased. 😁

Me on the other hand------ was melting 😱
I may start looking converting the back window to roll up and down. I know some of you use Saturn rear window cranks OR other 4 door cars. Can I do something like that ???
I may need some pics for reference. ;)

Since my steel conversion is almost on the way, I might as well modify the back window.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: madmike3434 on July 07, 2018, 04:08:24 AM
alright.............cooling system should be operating smoooooothly.

One of the problem we non ford guys have is the windshield doesn't roll out.  They go up 2" ???? into the upper header opening the bottom to air flow, for the 32 and down GM.   When its 102 degrees outside, damn that's hot, and not a lot you can do about it.

Every once in a while I see a pair of ACCESSORY VENT WINDOWS, that attach to the doors.  Think I saw a pair listed on ebay last week at a hefty price.  The addition of those greatly will increase airflow inside car, but all that air directed into it, makes for a mini hurricane if opened all the way.   This is where that roll down rear window comes into play.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1931-1932-Chevrolet-Coupe-Sedan-Draft-Deflectors-Wind-Wings-Original-GM-Box/153075762670?hash=item23a406c5ee:g:eF4AAOSwEy1ayVed

found the listing...........a whole lot of crazy on price but you can see what they look like.  Maybe ford had something the same ???

Model A ford coupes and 32's had roll down when car came equipted with rumble seat, gm did too..  For best price I would look at model A ford suppliers. Preferably you want the mechanism handle right in the middle for easy access.
You will need the door stuff channel for the rear for glass to slide up and down in.

Lastly you will need to fabricate a water catch tray out of sheet metal and attach it too the body so when water hits glass and runs down your not soaking inside of the car.  You will need to fab a drain one end, out of 3/8" brake line.  There is a slight angle to the tray so water runs too it. Run the drain hose thru the floor .

I found it easier to adapt a mechanical chevy roll down 33--35 than make an electric one.  Which would be nice .
The bottom metal around the rear window will have to be modified.   

One supposedly simple job always makes 2-3 others.

mike lynch
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: madmike3434 on July 07, 2018, 03:08:29 PM
The fan thing is driving me nuts.

 Dug out my 2 all steel 15 & 16" fans.  After a lot of measuring, turns out the steel ones have less size to the blades....aluminum 4" and steel 3 1/4".

Comparing the forward pitch on the aluminum and the steel, the all steel has seriously less forward pitch and I believe this should now clear the radiator at the bottom. Because the fan is opened up at the snout from 5/8", too the larger corvette pump snout of 3/4" , I needed to make a sleeve out of a bearing as it centers the fan.

Tomorrow morning will find out the truth about whether we have clearance or not..........news at 11 as they say.

mike lynch

After fighting with the fan, pulley and radiator and doing some bloody damage to my right hand knuckles over a 2 hour period, I am happy to make my final report on mechanical fans with serious pitch vs aluminum flex fans.
 
Firing the engine and running it, I could not really feel an air draw on the grill mesh with either type.  But using a 12" micro-cloth 1/2 way up it stayed in place, then I substituted a 20" square towel that was heavier and you could now see the towel being pulled towards the grill.  I let it be pulled to the grill and it stayed there solidly drawn.

Conclusion, the 6 blade Derale 17" steel fan with 3" wide blades and 28 degrees pitch definitely outperforms the aluminum flexifan.   I could not test the aluminum 17" because of the forward pitch of the blades hitting the radiator at the bottom.  Those blades are 4" wide with a 33 degree pitch.  That same fan RATTIC has on his Pontiac should easily hold a t shirt to the grill of his Pontiac ?

  The 34-35 standard series Chevrolet has factory stock *side air blockers* that fit onto the sides of the radiator and stop airflow from going around the radiator.  I have 2 pair or these and need to refinish a pair to complete the job.

mike lynch..........the mad fan tester
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on July 07, 2018, 04:48:43 PM
My fan testing :::::::
Flex fan ------ it would suck the sheet to the grill but had to get really close and not hold long.

New scoop fan (pic #1) ----- sucks it to grill from 5" away and holds there for awhile.

Scoop fan with electric pusher fan (pic 2) ------- sucks from 6" and holds well.

Now my problem is with the adjustable thermostat. Vibrations make the knob to go out of adjustment. So I'll play around with that and maybe convert to an engine sensor.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on July 07, 2018, 08:54:52 PM
Anybody have a pic of the roll down back window ?
If I see it, I can build it. 8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: madmike3434 on July 07, 2018, 09:13:37 PM
https://www.macsautoparts.com/ford_model_a/model-a-ford-rear-window-kit-roll-down-type-coupe-24-pieces.html

https://www.google.com/search?q=1932+ford+roll+down+rear+window&tbm=isch&tbs=rimg:CRJEQKc9XWbPIjgkF62BeG0QItXXGvcTwyMNvbdHH_1RhVZ7DSogLUSrhe_1iHMBY3yKW3QkqvKYEyjiEQ8ViPCg0oGioSCSQXrYF4bRAiERrMgg-uOxYxKhIJ1dca9xPDIw0RGsyCD647FjEqEgm9t0cf9GFVnhHOlQY_1NsK_1-CoSCcNKiAtRKuF7EYXIHu8oNKIgKhIJ-IcwFjfIpbcRGsyCD647FjEqEglCSq8pgTKOIRE9AReVUDQ1YSoSCRDxWI8KDSgaES8kD5lmoH-n&tbo=u&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjpvvftqY7cAhVk5IMKHbznAFUQ9C96BAgBEBg&biw=1360&bih=566&dpr=1#imgrc=8x13GKr7p72IQM:&spf=1531012495946

https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/roll-down-rear-window-in-a-model-a-or-32-36-ford-questions-pics.76490/

mike lynch
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on July 13, 2018, 07:53:54 PM
Drove it to work for a few HOT days and when I got home, went to close the door and the whole wood piece came off in my hand.

Well , you know what that means. The wood is demanding attention. I have most of this planned out except for who can make me this piece for the tops of the doors.
My metal guy couldn't. :-\
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on July 16, 2018, 09:20:02 PM
My other metal guy dosent answer the phone. So I called someone else who deals with race cars.
Got quoted $600 for each piece . Holy s#%t !!!
Said they'd have to make a die and recommended another shop.

Wouldn't you need to roll the ditch and bend the other sides ???
Utah sucks.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sammons on July 16, 2018, 11:00:31 PM
Dang thats a bit pricey :o  Be much cheaper to buy yourself a bead roller, metal break and do it yourself.(or borrow someones) That piece dosen't look hard to make, pretty straight forward. Yep, roll the ditch first then do the break. My metal break only does up to 38" long and don't like more than 20-22 ga using a piece that long. (Its old and leaves the middle not as sharp as the ends).

Here is all you need ;)

Add: Just grabbed a piece of scrap to make sure I wasn't talking out of my arse ;D    It worked, (I was to lazy to hunt up a wrench to tighten up the bead roller to get it crisp)  I guess I should have cleaned the surface rust off first so you could see it better, told you I was too lazy tonight :)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on July 17, 2018, 12:05:16 AM
That's awesome Sammons  8). Thank you for doing that.
I was just thinking earlier about asking if you could make these for me but Hell , I may give it a try.

I know the ditch is offset to the left a bit. How close can you get the ditch to the bend ?

Here's a pic. I believe it's 1-5/8" width .


Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sammons on July 17, 2018, 12:21:46 AM
Rattiac I think you could go as close as 1/4" (from ditch to break on the up side and really close next to the down break.  I'll try tomorrow after I leave the shop to make sure.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on July 17, 2018, 01:01:02 AM
Just awesome !!!
Lookin at some new tools .
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: ghost28 on July 17, 2018, 09:25:26 AM
You guys rock.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sammons on July 17, 2018, 12:31:14 PM
Rattiac, just made another sample. (Clean one this time) ;D
My bead (ditch) was a bit wobbly, can't find my guide (fence) and hand cranking today not so good.

I was worried about the ditch being down and needing to break up close to it, not a problem. The bottom of the ditch just rested at a tip up angle till bent. So...you can get close, I'm just about 3/16" on this bend. 1-5/8" from inside up lip to inside of down lip.

Tools- i'm real happy with my Eastwood bead roller and it came with 3 sets of bead dies and 3 sets of step dies.   The ones that Jegs, Summit and Speedway all look like the same as the Eastwood (different colors and decals) Make sure you purchase a fence (or make one) You can keep a straight bead that way. Helps to have a helper to crank while you guide the metal thru.

Was really happy with my break, but its probably 25+ years old and been rode hard ;)  don't remember the manufacturer.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on July 17, 2018, 12:33:25 PM
Nice work Sammons 8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: FATnLOW on July 17, 2018, 12:55:17 PM
A big thumbs up !!! Looks like it should work  for Rattiac😉
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sixball on July 17, 2018, 02:52:19 PM
This is fun to watch. I'm going to have to make a couple of pieces for my roadster. I'm not a sheet metal guy. Thanks.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on July 17, 2018, 05:45:25 PM
Stinking amazing, Sammons!!!!!
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sammons on July 17, 2018, 06:25:17 PM
Thanks guys but there really isn't nothing to that, the tool does the work. Hardest skill is accurate measure and scribe lines, trying to crank bead roller while keeping a straight line :)

Rattiac, Jegs carries the Eastwood bead roller kit and has the best price ($149.99) Eastwood and Northern tool (Klutch) sell it for $159.99. Eastwood carries the fence for $39.99.

Looked at some simple sheet metal breaks, man they get pricey after 30" models. The Northern Tool Klutch brand 30" sells for $89.99. Summit had a cheesey looking 30" for $49 Sale/ $59 reg.
I haven't used either, was just looking around.  I suppose it depends on how long your uppers are, I've had to butt weld 2 pieces together after bending to get the length i've needed before.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on July 17, 2018, 07:51:55 PM
Before. I was dreading this project. But now im kinda excited about tackling this.  ;D

I was looking at the Eastwood roller. I dont think I'll need a big one, so this 8" should work fine for what I do.
I will go 30" on the brake. I think the longest piece for the front doors is 24". Haven't heard anything bad about the HF breaks yet but summit may have them beat in price.


Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on July 29, 2018, 10:47:28 PM
Sammons.
Looking at your pic of the sheemetal brake. What kind of brake is that ? 
Noticed the 2 handles.

Looking at some of the cheaper ones, im not crazy about having to clamp things down. I may buck up a bit for this.

That northern looks decent but backorders.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sammons on July 30, 2018, 10:40:23 AM
Rattiac I'm sorry but its been too many years ago, I don't recall the brand :(  The two handles on the top of mine are the escentric lock downs that hold the metal. The bottom right is the brake handle, you pull up to bend. It really needs another handle on the left for larger bends, at 38" max length its hard to get the left bent. I use big water pump pliers on that end, i've been gonna weld another handle on for 20yrs.   Have to do that some day ;)    Having to clamp down the metal would be a pain, but probably cheaper to buy.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on July 31, 2018, 09:35:22 PM
No biggie. I may end up getting the 36" HF bender.

I've had this piece hanging around for awhile and decided to cut it down just for a test fit. Not bad.
Time to make a few more bends at work.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sixball on August 01, 2018, 12:51:42 AM
That looks good to me. I saw this on eBay yesterday and thought of you. There may be some info like spring interchange that could help you.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-Interchange-Parts-Catalog-1926-1952-OEM-Part-s-Buick-Olds-Chevy-Pontiac/142886718475 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-Interchange-Parts-Catalog-1926-1952-OEM-Part-s-Buick-Olds-Chevy-Pontiac/142886718475)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on August 01, 2018, 07:04:52 AM
Looks good from here :D
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on August 01, 2018, 07:45:55 PM
Thanks sixball. I may pick that up.

Hopefully at our local "metal mart" they have
1.5" I.D. square tubing. Starting to make patterns for the top rails. There's a bend at the rear of each door I need to make.
As soon as the snow flies, it's tear down time.

Went for a drive the other day to check out my buddies 67 Caddy limousine. Wants the headliner done. He has a English bulldog also.

Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on January 16, 2019, 12:10:22 AM
Yay. No more hole in the dashboard.
Big thanks to 62131. 👍
Used some fine steel wool and it polished up great.😎
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on January 16, 2019, 07:04:15 AM
That looks awesome :D
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: 62131 on January 16, 2019, 07:04:53 PM
 Rattiac   I'm glad your happy with it. I welded my ash tray hole closed due to the fact that I made a steel cowl support, then I boxed it in and used it for my defrost duct and then drilled holes on top of my dash panel and covered them with some vent grilles to get my defrost air to the windshield. 
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on January 17, 2019, 11:42:33 PM
After looking under the dash. It looks like it'll be best if I wait until I pull the dash to hook up the defrost.

Time to change gears for a moment.

It looks like the 32 is suffering from a bad case of
"Gangster lean"  :o.
Leans to the left rear. Starting to become very noticeable now.
Time for new rear leafsprings. Since my neighbor works for AAA spring, I have the hookup.
Gonna pull the RR leafspring since it's more arched and have them copy that.
Once the frame is properly level I can start ripping out the wood. 8)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on January 20, 2019, 07:08:52 PM
Swapped out the thermostat. New 180.
Once it was burped out, the heater is much better.
So far im impressed.  8)

Im pretty sure the old 160 was toast.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on March 30, 2019, 11:40:58 PM
 It's been months since the car has been driven.
Took it out to get gas and grab some chocolate shakes. ;D
Tried out the heater but it seems it needs more burping. Got up to about 230 but no signs of boiling. Added more coolant once I popped the rad cap. Hopefully tomorrow I'll get this solved.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on March 31, 2019, 03:50:09 PM
This 180 thermostat is acting weird.
Almost like it still needs burping.  :(

 I put the 160 back in.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on July 28, 2019, 02:01:27 PM
Is this enough mileage for a shake down run ?.  ;D
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 01, 2019, 12:30:04 PM
I finally finished this video. Enjoy.

https://vimeo.com/357150691


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Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: sammons on September 01, 2019, 04:17:07 PM
Nice work man, like the what it was to, what it is.  Really liked your video too. :)
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: EDNY on September 02, 2019, 07:19:32 AM
Great video production and build documentation!
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on September 02, 2019, 08:32:13 AM
Awesome video!
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 02, 2019, 09:23:48 PM
Thanks.  8)
Glad it's done ,  been putting it off for 2 years.

Well. It's the end of the season again. So I decided to tear into the car.  :o :o
Took the Right rear leafspring out to send over to the neighbor. For new leafspring's to get built.

I was fearing the 80+ years old front bolt was siezed butt......... it came out really easy.
Mind blown. Ka boom.😱😁
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on September 04, 2019, 11:49:23 AM
Great video Rattiac!! Great job!!
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 04, 2019, 07:57:03 PM
Thanks.
I already have some more footage for another. 😁

Just gonna place this rear leafspring info here also , just in case.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 06, 2019, 09:56:17 PM
My neighbor really hooked me up. 😁
He said he was gonna put the nice keepers on.
He sure did. 😎
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on September 07, 2019, 01:05:14 PM
Very nice, they're not going anywhere.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on September 07, 2019, 03:13:45 PM
Nice stuff!
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 08, 2019, 07:12:30 PM
Passenger's side is on.
Even found my lost bumpstops , welded a washer onto the bracket and bolted it on.  8)

While in the shop. I added a 3rd brake light to the spare hubcap. A lil 3/4" LED .

Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 08, 2019, 10:02:27 PM
Driver's rear is installed. This was side that needed it.
Maybe test drive this week. 😉
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 11, 2019, 10:41:00 PM
Test drive complete and very happy with the new rear leafspring's. 😎
Sits up a bit higher in the back now. 👍
The only thing I need now is some modern shocks back there.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on September 12, 2019, 07:08:57 AM
Looks good!
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 22, 2019, 08:57:22 PM
Im glad it's not sagging on that side anymore.
Seems to handle better and stay straight in the lane.

3rd brake light is wired up and looking great.
I thought about going to a 2" LED but I think this is subtle.

Starting to tear out the rear floor right now.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on September 25, 2019, 08:09:01 PM
Looking good! You're not wasting any time.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 25, 2019, 08:17:51 PM
Thanks Chopper.

New parts are in. 8)
Monroe air shocks for a 1980 Chevy Malibu and the parallel air line kit from summit racing
Rear upper shock bar for 35-40 Ford
Lower shock mounts adjustable , both from speedway.

The bar is a 43" width and the frame
is near 40-1/2" wide.

Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: TFoch on September 25, 2019, 10:14:07 PM
Looks like it'll do the trick!
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on September 26, 2019, 02:07:48 PM
Goodbye old "ride control" system.
These were toast. One side worked only on rebound and the other worked only on compression even with new oil.  :o


Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on October 02, 2019, 09:52:20 PM
Since I have the rear floor out, I think im going to "re-do" the sub-framing while im in there along with more reinforcement to the seat mounts.
Wasn't happy with that. :-[
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: chopper526 on October 03, 2019, 02:29:30 PM
Goodbye old "ride control" system.
These were toast. One side worked only on rebound and the other worked only on compression even with new oil.  :o



Looks more like "ride out of control"! You are going to love those new shocks!
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: madmike3434 on October 03, 2019, 02:56:22 PM
Since I have the rear floor out, I think im going to "re-do" the sub-framing while im in there along with more reinforcement to the seat mounts.
Wasn't happy with that. :-[

Just think of the car as a "continuous work in progress", they are never done.  Always bugs to peel off, oil to change and the occasional wash and wax ,  even if just in primer.

mike..................HAIRBALL
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on October 13, 2019, 08:47:03 PM
Was able to get the shock bar in easily. The frame gets wider in the rear. 
Now the exhaust, brake and gas needs to be moved.

Measurements.
20.5" -- extended
12.75" -- collapsed
7.75" -- travel

Axle has 5.75" uptravel before bumpstops.
The bar is mounted as high as I can get it in the frame.

With the lower mount at it's lowest position I'll have 4" downtravel left on the shock at ride height.
I may have to add a 1" bumpstop.

Also I need to space out the shock on the lower mount.
It's a bit close.
Title: Re: 1932 Pontiac Six build
Post by: Rattiac on October 14, 2019, 02:42:19 PM
I accidentally kinked the fuel line trying to get it out of the way and started leaking gas. 😠
So it'll be a week or so before I can do any welding.