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Title: 4 Link
Post by: munch on August 16, 2013, 11:41:15 AM
My 1930 has a 1957 rear end with lief springs and 2" lowering blocks and I don't like the ride.  Instead of tweaking the current setup, I was thinking of going with a 4-link by RideTech.

What are you opinions?
Title: Re: 4 Link
Post by: Senior31 on August 16, 2013, 12:23:48 PM
I have a RideTech 4-link under my 35 with shockwaves and I think that the ride is better than leafs.  I have to adjust the shockwaves a little before it was perfect, but I can't complain about it at all. 
Title: Re: 4 Link
Post by: munch on August 16, 2013, 01:03:36 PM
Senior31

Did you buy it as a kit or did you get the universal and choose shocks?
Title: Re: 4 Link
Post by: Senior31 on August 16, 2013, 02:16:28 PM
munch

I bought it as a universal 4-link kit.  I believe from Yogi's.  If I remember correctly the shockwaves came with the kit. It was the parallel kit, but I did have to raise the floor about 2 inches to clear the panhard bar in the dropped position.  I think on my 34 I may run the triangulated kit instead.  I have spoke with a couple guys who used the triangulated and they said they didn't have to modify the floor.  If you would like I probably have the part number in my paperwork.  I can look it up tonight if you would like.  I also have pics of the install if you would like to take a look at them.  Just let me know.
Title: Re: 4 Link
Post by: munch on August 16, 2013, 02:24:16 PM
Senor31,

The pics and part# would be very much appreciated, thank you sir...
Title: Re: 4 Link
Post by: Senior31 on August 16, 2013, 03:08:18 PM
I have attached the pics I have from when I was building the car.  I can get more if you need them.  Just let me know what you want to see.  I will see if I can find you the part # tonight or tomorrow.
Title: Re: 4 Link
Post by: munch on August 16, 2013, 03:50:36 PM
Looks just like my 30 access.
Title: Re: 4 Link
Post by: TFoch on August 16, 2013, 07:43:17 PM
I thought about a triangulated 4 bar for mine but went with a Posies Rear Leaf Kit.  I haven't driven it yet so I can't comment on how it rides.  A couple of my friends went with the triangulated 4 bar and have been very happy with it.
Title: Re: 4 Link
Post by: EDNY on August 16, 2013, 10:27:26 PM
Just tried a picture of my 33 coupe 4 link...but it's getting crowed under there.

Ed
Title: Re: 4 Link
Post by: Senior31 on August 17, 2013, 09:43:30 AM
The part number for my 4 link was SKW7000P, but I checked Yogi's site and it looks like they don't sell this kit anymore. The kit did include the Ridetech universal parallel 4 link and 7000 series shockwaves.  Please let me know if you need any additional info.
Title: Re: 4 Link
Post by: ghost28 on August 17, 2013, 08:43:09 PM
Hey Tom.
 I have used the stainless triangulated install in my last 4 builds and love the ride with adjustable coilovers, I don't need the panard bar when using the triangulated install.What did you do with the triangulated unit that you did not use?
John
Title: Re: 4 Link
Post by: TFoch on August 17, 2013, 08:48:05 PM
Hey Tom.
 I have used the stainless triangulated install in my last 4 builds and love the ride with adjustable coilovers, I don't need the panard bar when using the triangulated install.What did you do with the triangulated unit that you did not use?
John
John,
I wanted to use a 10 bolt Chevy to keep my drive train all Chevy.  The triangulated 4 bar was going to use a Ford 9" so a friend of mine used it in a rod he was building.
Tom
Title: Re: 4 Link
Post by: ghost28 on August 17, 2013, 08:52:53 PM
Thanks Tom.
I am always trying to use parts where I can find them. I like the leaf springs on your roadster, it ought to ride really nice...John
Title: Re: 4 Link
Post by: munch on August 19, 2013, 02:47:52 PM
TFoch,

With the leaf setup does it ride high?  Mine came with only three leafs because I think they wanted it to sit low.
Title: Re: 4 Link
Post by: munch on August 19, 2013, 02:50:35 PM
Senior31,

Thanks
Title: Re: 4 Link
Post by: EDNY on August 19, 2013, 04:34:55 PM
TFoch,

With the leaf setup does it ride high?  Mine came with only three leafs because I think they wanted it to sit low.

Don't forget that with leafs..you can mount the axle above the springs to lower the car.
Title: Re: 4 Link
Post by: TFoch on August 19, 2013, 08:04:36 PM
Munch,
Mine has the axle above the leafs like Ed was saying.  The centerline of the rear bumper bracket hole on the back of the frame is 15" from the floor.  That is with 26 1/2" tall tires front and back.  It will sit lower as I don't have the interior in it or the rear deck lid on it.  The guys at Posie's told me they settle a little after a little driving around too.  Hope this helps.
Tom
Title: Re: 4 Link
Post by: TFoch on August 23, 2013, 01:02:46 PM
Munch,
Here's some pictures of the shock mounts I made.  I got the shock kit when I ordered the spring kit but I didn't use their mounts.  I like the way these came out better.
Tom
Title: Re: 4 Link
Post by: TFoch on August 25, 2013, 08:00:22 PM
Munch,
Here are the pics of the rear shackle mount we fabricated.  The first pic is from the outside of the frame.  The second is from the inside of the frame.
Tom
Title: Re: 4 Link
Post by: ghost28 on August 25, 2013, 08:32:58 PM
HMMM. Nice work Tom.
Title: Re: 4 Link
Post by: TFoch on August 25, 2013, 08:37:16 PM
HMMM. Nice work Tom.
John,
Can't take all the credit, had some help from an old high school friend with better welding skills than I.
Tom
Title: Re: 4 Link
Post by: munch on August 27, 2013, 01:54:46 PM
Tom,

That looks great, I have a problem though that should have me find another hobby, I don't wield.  I have a core flux unit and have made do on some body work, but not what you are doing. 
Title: Re: 4 Link
Post by: TFoch on August 28, 2013, 05:33:20 PM
If you know someone or have a reputable shop near by you could follow the instructions and tack the mounts in then have them finish weld it.  Front and rear mounts would have to be welded to the frame and the spring pad to the rear end.  I don't know of any bolt in kits.  You might want to check Fat Man Fabrications.  They have some bolt in suspension kits.
Tom
Title: Re: 4 Link
Post by: munch on August 30, 2013, 02:07:16 PM
Tom,

I'll figure it out, I am use to getting creative.  Have you had a feedback from anyone on the ride the Posie rear leaf setup gives.
Title: Re: 4 Link
Post by: TFoch on August 30, 2013, 03:09:55 PM
Munch,
I haven't heard from anyone that has the Posie's springs in their car but it would probably compare to a 68 - 72 Nova or a Camaro of the same years.
Tom
Title: Re: 4 Link
Post by: trbomax on August 30, 2013, 03:39:37 PM
When I built mine (1962) you couldnt buy one. I adapted a complete 58 chevy rear suspension which is a triangulated set up.Actually I used the whole frame,fitting it inside the 28 frame and then boxing the rest of it. I was 18 yrs old at the time and my only tools were a torch,grinder and a lincoln AC180 stick welder!
Title: Re: 4 Link
Post by: trbomax on August 30, 2013, 03:42:42 PM
More......Thats the finished glass body behind me in the second pic.
Title: Re: 4 Link
Post by: TFoch on August 30, 2013, 03:46:48 PM
Those are some cool old pictures!  That was probably high tech back in 1962.
Title: Re: 4 Link
Post by: trbomax on August 30, 2013, 04:13:16 PM
 Being a senior in high school and working a full time job as well, it was all I could come up with!There were not many choices back then if you wanted independent front and a linked rear. Most everyone had solid front axels and leaf springs in the rear. I had finished the body and decided that the frame had to be beefier so as to eliminate any stress cracking and the coils on all 4 corners would be easier on the body work. It was beefier all right,I could jack up one corner and the whole end would come up at once! Total overkill.
Title: Re: 4 Link
Post by: munch on September 04, 2013, 04:27:32 PM
Thanks all, and I enjoyed the pics.  You guys do good work.

I know that I sound like jumping around, but the next item on my list is a 200R4 transmission.   As I said before, I want to cruise and at 60 I need another gear.  I think that I am going for the trans first and see what that is like.  The TH400 is nice and crisp, but like I said I need another gear.

I am looking at a 200R from Tuff Dawg Engines for $1,600 including delivery.

I will make my decision on the leafs next. 
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