Rusty Bowtie
Miscellaneous => Garage Gripes => Topic started by: sixball on December 04, 2020, 05:23:37 PM
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I am very interested to see how the hearing in Nevada turns out. There was massive voting fraud in Nevada. Indians on the reservations were paid by the Dems to vote. The Democrats changed voting laws in a late night "special" session weeks before the election so every person on non-updated voter rolls were sent unsolicited ballots in the mail. People who turned up to vote in person were turned away because someone had already sent in their mail in ballot. Clark County has been cheating for years and hopefully this federal light shown on Nevada will show the corruption that Nevadans can not do anything about. Illegals in Clark and Washoe counties have been voting illegally for years. That is why Nevada is Eastern California.
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Nationally 6 out of 10 voters feel that there was illicit voting activity. The media refuses to report the actual and documented voting violations "as usual".
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I doubt, no matter what they find, will change the outcome of the election. But, it would be nice to know and hopefully straighten it out as best possible.
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The next big one..Georgia!
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If the cheating done in this election is not exposed you will never see another republican in the white house
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Or Congress, and then ANY of the state Governorships and Legislatures. If they get the Senate this time it's over. Goos to be old.
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It looks like the judge ruled without calling any of the witnesses. It will he appealed to the Nevada Supreme Court where it will get the same treatment. Just a big stall. If the US Supreme Court doesn't take this up the people can just get use to Socialism because that party will be in charge from now on. No confidence in elections is a sad thing.
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Not to beat a dead horse...but read the statement from Pam Bondi:
https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=159591&fbclid=IwAR03HoqX-v8YsRmNqS0Fx4XPVcwMnP1sk4XhMLvZ7XMvmiCo_Q9W07loSJc
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I really hope that is true. I can not tell who is telling the truth or if anyone is telling the truth.
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It sounds good Ed, but unfortunately, I don't share Bondi's optomism
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So far Trump have been stiffed by Nevada where the ENTIRE voting process was changed to benefit Biden just before the election. No one has even interviewed witnesses. It is not clear yet if it will go to the State Supreme Court (a waste of precious time) or the US Supreme Court, which I doubt has the guts to take this on. If they do and rule in Biden's favor there will never be a fair election again. This will be the voting process from now on with the only changes being less transparency. If they take this up and find for Trump the riots of this summer will seem like a flash in the pan. If that happens I say let the Democrat states and cities deal with it. There is nothing wort fighting for in Las Vegas. Let the Mafia defend it.
There may be violence either way because the left now uses it as a normal part of their political activities and the right has no other recourse. Their message is being suppressed to the point that conservatives have no voice in any aspect of the country's business and the Country' business has no business in our homes. As a retired public school teacher I can tell you that United States government and history has not been been truly fought in our schools since the 60s.
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Sixball Very well said.
I am very interested to see how the hearing in Nevada turns out. There was massive voting fraud in Nevada. Indians on the reservations were paid by the Dems to vote. The Democrats changed voting laws in a late night "special" session weeks before the election so every person on non-updated voter rolls were sent unsolicited ballots in the mail. People who turned up to vote in person were turned away because someone had already sent in their mail in ballot. Clark County has been cheating for tears and hopefully this federal light shown on Nevada will show the corruption that Nevadans can not do anything about. Illegals in Clark and Washoe counties have been voting illegally for years. That is why Nevada is Eastern California.
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Isn't it strange that leftist rioters, killing and beating fellow citizens, burning and looting businesses, and destroying public property are deemed to be peaceful protesters exercising their rights. Truly peaceful protestors like those supporting the bar owner in New York and in Michigan protesting election irregularities are dismissed as right wing radicals sighting baseless conspiracy theories. "They shouted baseless conspiracy theories about the election, and in videos uploaded to social media, at least one individual could be heard shouting 'you're murderers' within earshot of her child’s bedroom," Consertive protestors evidently have no freedom of speech within earshot of a child's bedroom but Liberal protestors could block the door trapping people inside and burn the building down. Liberals seem to have no problem until it's their family or building.
This was also mixed with alleged death threats made to another Michigan official. Likely made to her phone as a stunt to further shame conserve protestors. The protestors at the bar in New York actually cleaned the area before they left.
https://myhughesnet.hughesnet.com/news/read/article/newser-protesters_gather_at_michigan_election_officials_h-rnewsersyn/category/news (https://myhughesnet.hughesnet.com/news/read/article/newser-protesters_gather_at_michigan_election_officials_h-rnewsersyn/category/news)
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Forbes story:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2020/12/04/exclusive-the-fbi-is-investigating-voter-data-theft-in-this-key-2020-election-battleground/?sh=7e9ae7df34a4
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Nothing on line is really secure if you know what you are doing. I have trouble posting on friendly websites but if you are te one who created the software it's a different deal. The most distrebin this there for me was they: "It’s possible to simply buy voter data from Maricopa County, costing as little as $328 for 1 million or more records." No one's information should be for sale by a government that requires you to provide that information.
A bright point, Justice Gorsuch has told Pennsylvania to produce some data on the election by tomorrow morning. A worry is that the Supreme Court has no police power and can not enforce their rulings. They have gone ignored in the past.
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There are two paths:
1) challenging the total ballet numbers including late postmarks and other fraud like dead and out of state voters. The courts so far are not accepting these specific challenges...indicating the challenges are either too late and/or not significant enough to change the outcome anyway.
2) Fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine..that when politicians changed voting laws and regulations without legislative approval (which is required) all votes cast after such change are not valid. Only the votes collected that were within the legal parameters prior to any illegal changes are counted. BTW: some of the states changed voting laws/regulations before, during and "after" the election date. Some parties even changed postmark dates. This is were the Supreme Court might come in.
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We should know something of what the Supreme Court plans on doing tomorrow morning. If they don't do something it's over. I'm afraid. I am much more worried about future elections than the results of this one. If this is how votes are cast and counted from now on we will have a one party system just like China. People have lives to live, jobs to do, and families to raise. Politicians only have power to seek and control to exert.
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We should know something of what the Supreme Court plans on doing tomorrow morning. If they don't do something it's over. I'm afraid. I am much more worried about future elections than the results of this one. If this is how votes are cast and counted from now on we will have a one party system just like China. People have lives to live, jobs to do, and families to raise. Politicians only have power to seek and control to exert.
Been there ..done that..born in California and raised in NY :'( :'( :'(
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Ed, I think we have a better chance at path #2.
Sixball, you are right on. If we lose this one, oh well, but when they see they got away with it, it will only get worse for the next election. I am usually an optimist, but I think we could be slipping away here.....
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The Supreme Court just refused to hear the Republican challenge to Pennsylvania election results..Bad news Ron
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This is looking swampier than I thought. Why has every state and federal official refused to even look at the evidence? Why have no witnesses been questioned. Is this supposed to help us have confidence in what is about to happen in Georgia. Trump has exposed how corrupt our system is and now both Democrats and Republicans in charge have shown where they stand. Trump is the only president to have come from the people in 100 or more years. This is what the ruling class thinks of us. It is clear that they don't care what group we think we are in only in what group they are in. All they have to do is turn all the little groups against each other. With no elections and now honest media they have unlimited power. There is only one party and both Democrats and Republicans belong to it.
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They will probably be after Trump and his family as soon as Biden takes office. The media will love that opportunity to still use him for ratings and to hide what the left is doing. How do all of those son's of share croppers get so rich once they take office?
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The Supreme Court has accepted a lawsuit by Texas related to challenge "other state" election law violations (this is potentially a big story)
Can't find this news story by doing a search of Yahoo or Google with this wording: supreme court accepts texas lawsuit
You will not see the story as intended, results will be something like: Texas throws a Hail Mary or maybe Texas sues Georgia over election results...but you won't see a story title that reads: US Supreme Court accepts lawsuit from Texas
This is in reference to my path #2 above.
Left media at work again...
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I've been following that today. Texas has a valid point. If other states ignore the Constitution it disenfranchises voters in states that follow it. Just like I am disenfranchised if one invalid vote for Biden is allowed to count anywhere but especially in Nevada. Hopefully Texas will ride to the rescue. This is a serious Constitutional issue. Maybe some other states will join them.
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17 other states so far:
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-vows-intervene-texas-election-140944575.html
I'm surprised that "yahoo" even published the story.
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It is clear that those states did not follow their own laws or the Constitution. It is true that invalid votes in any state harm voters in all states. But will the court have the guts to do the right thing. All hell would break loose. If they let it go just a little hell will break loose. I'm sticking with my only one party theory. Good to see Hunter and Sawlwell squirm a little.
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You guys are right on point. The corruption is being brought o light and I am sad to say, I have democrat friends who deny it and think Trump is trying to destroy our republic. The mainstream, liberal media is the democrat pocket. I heard that the majority of democrat voters had never heard anything about the Biden scandal until now, and if they had heard before the election they would have voted for Trump. Sad, very sad.
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The swamp Republicans are diving to the bottom. They will have to come up sometime and we need to remember that their true allegiance is to the swamp. We must take their names and remember their cowardice. They must be replaced.
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Looks like the swamp is going to work on Biden now and finally associate him and his son Hunter and the China deals...now that the election is over. Biden would never last 4 years anyway and his VP Harris is ready to assume his job....just a matter of time before Biden is gone.
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Looks like the swamp is going to work on Biden now and finally associate him and his son Hunter and the China deals...now that the election is over. Biden would never last 4 years anyway and his VP Harris is ready to assume his job....just a matter of time before Biden is gone.
That's the plan >:(
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I think that was always the plan. They could never have gotten anyone as radical left as her elected. The spent four years setting it up so Biden could barely cheat enough to win. He'll be gone by Easter.
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Check out Mike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSpfo19d-KQ
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Been watching Newsmax instead of Fox. Much better!
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Check out Mike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSpfo19d-KQ
Good stuff!
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Been watching Newsmax instead of Fox. Much better!
10-4..but I still like Tucker Carlson at 8PM
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The Epoch Times is also a great news outlet. Tucker Carlson is great. . Ron
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We have kinda drifted away from this forums intent of discussing cars and rodding but I feel it's OK especially in these crazy times around us. Nice to see people expressing their thoughts and not being attacked for them like we see on other sites.
I'm heading out of town this weekend to pick up a 34 Chevy frame ...that will keep my mind off politics for a while ;D
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Thanks ED for the latitude you've given us in these crazy times. We get to learn a little more about the great hot rodders on here, more than you would on other sites.
Have a great trip this weekend. Ron
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Although I agree with most everything you guys are saying, I'm getting a little politically worn out. I don't imagine there's any way the election will be allowed to be overturned, no matter what accusations are made or evidence is found. My wish: I hope a lesson is learned and Biden makes it through 4 years without too much damage. And yes, thanks for the latitude, Ed.
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I thought this forum was created for this stuff.
"Garage Gripes
Bitch about politics, government, Walmart parking lots, etc., etc."
But thanks for letting us talk. It looks like free speech will be over soon everywhere else and they'll get here eventually. What form of communication will be left? Phone calls are not secure, texts and monitored, emails are recorded, internet searches are traceable, face to face conversations can be recorded, we are all on camera in public places, drones and satellites have unbelievable spying technology, and the USPS is still clogged with mail in ballots. ::) There is no privacy and no way to organize to fight back against these things.
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How big is that swamp? :o