Rusty Bowtie

General Category => Early Chevy/GM Discussion => Topic started by: Rattiac on December 02, 2020, 02:09:43 PM

Title: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: Rattiac on December 02, 2020, 02:09:43 PM
I need the measurements of the sun visor and a pic would help.
My car has the interior bracket but no cardboard/material.
I figure this is something I can do since funds are scarce right now. :-X
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: RoarsRods on December 02, 2020, 03:32:43 PM
I need the measurements of the sun visor and a pic would help.
My car has the interior bracket but no cardboard/material.
I figure this is something I can do since funds are scarce right now. :-X

I just posted your question on VCCA site and possibly someone will respond! RoarsRods
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: madmike3434 on December 02, 2020, 05:05:50 PM
seeing as how the car is a street rod..........those words get you tossed in HAMB, make up a size that seems appropriate.

Your not going to the Hershey judging fields of the ACCA.

mike...........hairball

Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: 39delux on December 02, 2020, 05:11:12 PM
I made a set for the '39.  Used a set of Ford visors and cut them down to fit and recovered them.  If you go to a junkyard and get a pair don't forget to get the hangers for the inside edge.  Several videos on line regarding covering. 
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: RoarsRods on December 02, 2020, 09:00:47 PM
Rattic If the sedan is the same a VCCA member can take a couple photos and get If the sedan is the same I can take a couple photos and get measurements. Let me know.measurements. Let me know.
RoarsRods
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: chopper526 on December 02, 2020, 10:05:38 PM
Rattiac, good luck with the sun visor. No matter what way you go, no doubt it will turn out good and be just what the doctor ordered.
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: Rattiac on December 02, 2020, 10:41:21 PM
Found some images that give measurements.
It was an old eBay ad. 8)

I need to unbolt the arm from the windshield and soak it in some PBlaster. It doesn't move.
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: 62131 on December 03, 2020, 06:12:24 AM
Get that bracket re chromed it will set it off
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: chopper526 on December 03, 2020, 09:12:48 PM
That doesn't look to tough for a guy with your talent, Rattiac. Keep us posted and show us pic's. Good luck.
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: Rattiac on December 17, 2020, 10:47:58 PM
Unscrewed the arm today. Needs a good cleaning.
Hopefully I can get the screw loose to allow movement. Flat black or silver for now (whatever is in my paint locker) .
One day I'd like to chrome it. I may have some tan or black headliner laying around too.
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: sixball on December 17, 2020, 11:55:13 PM
That looks like a candidate for a citric acid bath. It would remove the rust and not harm any chrome that may be on it. It won't remove paint either. This is a nice looking bracket, classy.
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: EDNY on December 18, 2020, 07:10:26 AM
Or use the Molasses and water method...
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: Rattiac on January 05, 2021, 06:15:58 PM
After a few weeks of soaking the end in a cup of PB. It finally came loose and now rotates.
Just need to drill out the rivets to attach the visor.
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: 62131 on January 05, 2021, 07:09:18 PM
lets see a picture of the visor please
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: Rattiac on January 05, 2021, 07:28:16 PM
Haven't made it yet. Just getting the arm to move was the battle, the rest is easy.😉
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: Rattiac on January 06, 2021, 08:04:50 PM
Watched a few videos on rust removers. Vinegar , muratic acid, hydrochloric acid, ect.
Since I have some here and it's free I'll try vinegar.
We use it to clean out our Jacuzzi tub. PITA to clean that thing.
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: EDNY on January 06, 2021, 09:11:45 PM
If you have a chance search the Molasses and water method online.   Slow but it works...tried it on a small scale.
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: Rattiac on January 06, 2021, 11:53:35 PM
Well after a vinegar bath and wire brushin , it revealed a cool patina that shows a bit of it's former past. I cant seem to part with that right now. So I'll lightly sand it to get rid of sharp edges and clear coat it.
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: sixball on January 07, 2021, 01:39:09 AM
Citric acid is cheap, non toxic, and you can get it at the grocery store. It will remove ALL of the rust and won't hurt plating or paint. 
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: TFoch on January 07, 2021, 08:05:05 AM
Looks pretty cool!
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: ChevRon on January 07, 2021, 11:43:45 AM
 Looks much better.. I use vinegar on light rusted parts. Just takes time.. As sixball says citric acid works very well also. Ron
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: TFoch on January 07, 2021, 02:07:00 PM
I was digging through my stuff today and found the visor that goes with the top on my 33 Cabriolet.  The first two pics are the visor (second one folded).  The third is the front bow of my top.  You can see the mounting locations for the visor.
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: Rattiac on January 18, 2021, 07:41:17 PM
Found a good video on rust removers.
https://youtu.be/Qi-tK1jwO-k

Stopping at the home depot . I found these two.
I bought the cheaper one. It says it contains Phosphoric acid. Probably a bit heavy for what im doing.
Note;;;; when asking about acids, you get some strange looks. Couldn't find citric or oxalic acid (molassis) here in the city. Oh well.

Anyways I'll give it a shot and then it's time to make the visor itself.
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: EDNY on January 18, 2021, 09:47:26 PM
My neighbor gave me a collection of milling bits today, they had a good amount of rust.  So a short time ago I bought some apple cider vinegar and have the parts soaking in it tonight.  I'll report back in a day or so.

Apple cider vinegar video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3Nk2ts_vSM
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: sixball on January 19, 2021, 12:44:58 PM
You can find food grade citric acid at the grocery store. It is completely safe and can be disposed of in your yard. Citric acid is edible and rust is just iron and oxygen. You have to get the oil and grease off and it won't harm paint or other metals except zinc (galvanize). It works fast as well.
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: EDNY on January 20, 2021, 12:06:57 PM
Wish I would have taken a before picture of the misc milling bits my neighbor gave me..they were rusty and dirty.  Thought for sure I would be spending some time on the wire brush.  So I soaked them overnight in apple cider vinegar...the next day the solution was dark and the bits had rust removed in spotty patches.  Vinegar was working.

Recently bought a 6L ultrasonic cleaner ($108 shipped eBay) so I put the bits in the ultrasonic cleaner with straight apple cider vinegar for 30 minutes.  Had to rinse them off with hot soapy water, let them dry and put on a light coat of chain oil.  Did not wire brush them or wipe them individually...they look really nice!  Now I can go through them to separate the good and bad.
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: sixball on January 20, 2021, 01:29:27 PM
Very nice! It is crazy that we have all spent hours and hours with wire brushes and wire wheels within a few feet of a jug of vinegar.  :o

I have a large case cleaner for cleaning used brass ammo cases, probably 3 gallons. I've used it for light cleaning of small parts and polishing. I bet a 1/2 gallon of vinegar or citric acid solution would really remove rust if it didn't slop over the edge. The citric acid smells better.  ;D
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: Rattiac on January 20, 2021, 02:13:14 PM
Well for me the rust removers didn't work out.
It had phosphoric acid and nothing after hours of soaking.
Ended up using the wire wheel and sanding the arm it was so pitted.
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: EDNY on January 20, 2021, 03:26:53 PM
Very nice! It is crazy that we have all spent hours and hours with wire brushes and wire wheels within a few feet of a jug of vinegar.  :o

I have a large case cleaner for cleaning used brass ammo cases, probably 3 gallons. I've used it for light cleaning of small parts and polishing. I bet a 1/2 gallon of vinegar or citric acid solution would really remove rust if it didn't slop over the edge. The citric acid smells better.  ;D

I have a Lyman 1200 (vintage) vibrator style case cleaner that uses corn cob media etc.  Works fine on brass casings. Heard about the new technique of using stainless steel pins to clean cases...but you need to use the SS pins in rotary tumblers not vibrator cleaners.
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: sixball on January 20, 2021, 07:46:05 PM
We'll see. I have a bunch of small rusty things to clean. Nothing to lose.  :)
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: EDNY on January 20, 2021, 10:39:22 PM
I think the sonic cleaner did the most...
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: TFoch on January 21, 2021, 07:59:14 AM
All good stuff to know.  Thanks guys.
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: Rattiac on January 29, 2021, 02:39:49 PM
Visor is done.  Just need to get some longer screws for these blind nuts my boss gave me.
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: TFoch on January 29, 2021, 03:15:42 PM
Wow that came out real nice!
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: 62131 on January 29, 2021, 07:44:14 PM
really nice. It will make a nice accessory to your car
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: sixball on January 29, 2021, 09:17:41 PM
Very nice. Details like that really se off a build.
Title: Re: 32 sun visor ?
Post by: chopper526 on January 30, 2021, 06:03:32 PM
That really turned out well. Good job.
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