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Title: Pickup question
Post by: munch on October 22, 2019, 11:46:22 AM
As I said earlier, I am building a chassis for a 47 to 54 Chevy pickup using an S10 frame and Code 504 mounting kit.  I like the looks of the 1947 in this picture, but is this a special model to have the bullet headlights on top of the fenders?  When I look for pics, most have headlights built into the front.  I like the bullets best.
Title: Re: Pickup question
Post by: madmike3434 on October 22, 2019, 07:36:01 PM
post the picture as a JPG not everybody can download that file........I cannot open it.

hairball
Title: Re: Pickup question
Post by: sammons on October 22, 2019, 07:51:49 PM
I couldn't load pic either earlier. Much, that is the AK series 1941-46.
Title: Re: Pickup question
Post by: TFoch on October 22, 2019, 07:54:49 PM
I uploaded it as a jpeg for him.
Tom
Title: Re: Pickup question
Post by: munch on October 23, 2019, 11:39:38 AM
Sorry for the picture but thanks for the info.  Looks like they made them in 1947 as well, but it says it is based on a car frame.  I wonder if the cabs are interchangeable with the 3100.  I do like the lights and grille and would like to put one on my build.
Title: Re: Pickup question
Post by: sixball on October 23, 2019, 12:59:17 PM
They kept that style until mid-'48 when the AD came out.  There may have bees some minor grill changes. Cabs were the same from '39 to mid '48 and from 1/2 ton to at least 2 ton but larger trucks had bigger wheel cut outs on the fenders.
Title: Re: Pickup question
Post by: munch on October 23, 2019, 01:32:20 PM
They kept that style until mid-'48 when the AD came out.  There may have bees some minor grill changes. Cabs were the same from '39 to mid '48 and from 1/2 ton to at least 2 ton but larger trucks had bigger wheel cut outs on the fenders.
Thanks Sixball, the Code 504 mounting kit says it will work with a 1947 - 1955 1st series pickup so I sent them the question if it will work with the AK as well.
Title: Re: Pickup question
Post by: munch on October 24, 2019, 11:13:44 AM
Does anyone know if the front fenders and grille on an AK series are interchangeable with a 3100 series?  I searches the internet, but no luck.

Thanks
 
Title: Re: Pickup question
Post by: sixball on October 24, 2019, 11:49:09 AM
Munch, I'm not sure because I'm not sure what an AK is. I didn't know mine was a AD until I read it on line somewhere. But, I'm pretty sure that front clips from '39 to early '48 will interchange as a unit. The larger trucks with bigger wheels have larger wheel cut outs. All of these trucks up to at least 2 ton ran the 216 six, a much maligned old work horse, except some which had an early 235. So engine bay was the same size.
Title: Re: Pickup question
Post by: munch on October 24, 2019, 12:17:08 PM
Sixball, this is what I found online:

The Chevrolet AK Series truck was a light duty truck sold under the Chevrolet brand, with production beginning in 1941 until 1947. It used the GM A platform, shared with the Chevrolet Deluxe. The AK series was also branded and sold at GMC locations, with the primary visual difference being the Chevrolet had vertical bars in the grille, while the GMC had horizontal bars. The 1941-45 GMC models were sold as C-Series and became the E-Series for the 1946 and 1947 model years (CC-Series / EC-Series for the conventional cab models and CF-Series / EF-Series for the COE ones).[1]
The AK series represented an appearance split from previous Chevrolet products where the passenger cars and pickup trucks shared a common appearance, as demonstrated in the Chevrolet Master truck. The Chevrolet Deluxe was an all-new appearance when it was introduced in 1941, and shared much of its mechanicals with the third generation Chevrolet Suburban.
It was replaced with the Advance-Design, that was also sold as a GMC.
The truck used by the Creeper in the Jeepers Creepers film franchise is a 1941 model of the Chevrolet AK Series COE truck.
Title: Re: Pickup question
Post by: sammons on October 24, 2019, 12:35:24 PM
Does anyone know if the front fenders and grille on an AK series are interchangeable with a 3100 series?  I searches the internet, but no luck.

Thanks




Munch, they are not interchangeable. The AD series is quite a bit wider cab (mostly at the front cowl/firewall area), than the earlier AK series. It would take a really good metal fabricator to do that. (Very expensive). 

My buddy Shane is building an AK pickup right now. I could catch him sometime and measure across where fenders meet cab and hood at cowl width for you compare on the AD pickup.

An article on AD design and concept.

http://devestechnet.com/Home/History



 
Title: Re: Pickup question
Post by: munch on October 24, 2019, 01:22:39 PM
Does anyone know if the front fenders and grille on an AK series are interchangeable with a 3100 series?  I searches the internet, but no luck.

Thanks

Thanks Sammons



Munch, they are not interchangeable. The AD series is quite a bit wider cab (mostly at the front cowl/firewall area), than the earlier AK series. It would take a really good metal fabricator to do that. (Very expensive). 

My buddy Shane is building an AK pickup right now. I could catch him sometime and measure across where fenders meet cab and hood at cowl width for you compare on the AD pickup.

An article on AD design and concept.

http://devestechnet.com/Home/History
Title: Re: Pickup question
Post by: 39delux on October 24, 2019, 07:33:32 PM
FWIW I discovered the headlights on my '39 sedan are not the ones that are suppose to be there.  The ones on it now are longer.  I suspect that various parts from other vehicles will fit just nicely on something else.  Got to be careful when restoring but just call it a street rod and do anything you like. 
Title: Re: Pickup question
Post by: munch on October 25, 2019, 10:01:14 AM
Does anyone know if the front fenders and grille on an AK series are interchangeable with a 3100 series?  I searches the internet, but no luck.

Thanks




Munch, they are not interchangeable. The AD series is quite a bit wider cab (mostly at the front cowl/firewall area), than the earlier AK series. It would take a really good metal fabricator to do that. (Very expensive). 

My buddy Shane is building an AK pickup right now. I could catch him sometime and measure across where fenders meet cab and hood at cowl width for you compare on the AD pickup.

An article on AD design and concept.

http://devestechnet.com/Home/History
Sammons, does your buddy have any problems finding body parts for his build or is there repops available?  Send pictures if you can.
Title: Re: Pickup question
Post by: sammons on October 25, 2019, 10:18:39 AM
Munch, around here there are quite a few '41-46 chevy trucks. The scrap drive a few years back thinned it a bit, but still see them sitting in shelterbelt trees on farms. The main thing around here that gets bent up is the grilles. Several aftermarket companies are reproducing them for under $800.  Straight rear fenders are tough to find here. Most are beat, some have big rear bumpers welded to them, but fiberglass is availible. Shane got tired of looking and bought a pair from Speedway Motors and was happy with them.

I'll see if he is home this after noon when it warms up and get some picks. He is in the middle of the project but had it out on a test drive several weeks ago. He usually doesn't finish out interior or exterior much, then sells them.
Title: Re: Pickup question
Post by: munch on October 25, 2019, 11:50:14 AM
Munch, around here there are quite a few '41-46 chevy trucks. The scrap drive a few years back thinned it a bit, but still see them sitting in shelterbelt trees on farms. The main thing around here that gets bent up is the grilles. Several aftermarket companies are reproducing them for under $800.  Straight rear fenders are tough to find here. Most are beat, some have big rear bumpers welded to them, but fiberglass is availible. Shane got tired of looking and bought a pair from Speedway Motors and was happy with them.

I'll see if he is home this after noon when it warms up and get some picks. He is in the middle of the project but had it out on a test drive several weeks ago. He usually doesn't finish out interior or exterior much, then sells them.
Please let me know if you come across any good donors.
Title: Re: Pickup question
Post by: sammons on October 25, 2019, 12:22:55 PM
I'll sure ask him if any are close.

I checked the cars.oodle.com site, looks like they have a selection from cheap to expensive.

https://cars.oodle.com/1941 46-chevrolet/for-sale/trucks/

Can't seem to get there from here on my post, but works fine right to pickups on my phone.

Sorry Munch, he sold it already. He just started on another one, S-10 chassis also on this one.   
The upper cowl where the hood fits is approx 47" wide. It tappers in as is goes down and measures 40" wide where the top of the fenders mount.

A couple quick pics.  Last pic, rear fender is bobbed off at bumper brace. This is where a lot have been welded with extra rap around bumper.
Title: Re: Pickup question
Post by: munch on October 26, 2019, 11:15:16 AM
I'll sure ask him if any are close.

I checked the cars.oodle.com site, looks like they have a selection from cheap to expensive.

https://cars.oodle.com/1941 46-chevrolet/for-sale/trucks/

Can't seem to get there from here on my post, but works fine right to pickups on my phone.

Sorry Munch, he sold it already. He just started on another one, S-10 chassis also on this one.   
The upper cowl where the hood fits is approx 47" wide. It tappers in as is goes down and measures 40" wide where the top of the fenders mount.

A couple quick pics.  Last pic, rear fender is bobbed off at bumper brace. This is where a lot have been welded with extra rap around bumper.
I'm sold, I definitely like those trucks.  Patrick at Code 504 is putting together the few changes I need to make to my cab mounts to work with the 41 to 46 trucks.  Keep you eyes open for a cab and thanks...
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