Rusty Bowtie
General Category => Other Manufacturer Discussion => Topic started by: ghost28 on January 31, 2017, 05:54:29 PM
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I figured l would put this over here. I have been cutting the 28 chevy sedan body panels to start the build of the back of the roadster. I cut the quarters apart and reassembled them for the corners, and then cut the back panel down 5 inches since the chevy cowl is 6 inches wider. Clamped and tacked the three pieces and then check for fit to the front half. Ilike what I see so far. :D
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I like what I see also. Gonna be a neat little roadster. Ron
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That's looking great John. The panels are fitting together nicely.
Tom
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Very nice fitting together very well
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ITS THE VISION OF BEING ABLE TO SEE WHAT YOU HAVE AND MAKING IT INTO SOMETHING ELSE.
I GIVE YOU 10 OUT OF 10 FOR VISION :o 8)
GREAT STUFF.............. MIKE
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Nice work. I really like the Dodge cowl and dash. You made the Chevy stuff look right at home.
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That is really looking good!!
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Wow, your not mucking around.
You'll be bombing around by Summer at this rate.
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I went to another swap meet today and got some out side door handles,and picked up an adaptor for the 400 pontiac engine to a chevy auto transmission. Oh and some girl scout cookies
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Man I am hppy I went back to the swap meet today. I caught these guys leaving early that had this brand new model a bed, with a little bit of back and forth I was able to get it for the 24 dodge for $620,00..Ifigured I couldn't buy the brake and steel to make it for that amount. Iwill have to take the ford logo off.
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I will have to take the ford logo off.
What are you going to call it? :o
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Nice score! I think someone makes a no-name tailgate. You could easily sell the Ford one for enough to buy one. Are you going to leave it long? I really like the un-cut beds. Longer wheel base, more storage, room for a bigger cooler, and it won't look like a screwy Fad-T. You could call it a DORDROLET. :)
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Yep gonna leave it long bed. I heard that there is a aftermarket tail gate out there. I could call it a forchedo A nice japanese name
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I think you should have Ghost on the tailgate. Maybe Moose can Photoshop it ;D
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That would be cool since that has been my call sign for quite awhile.
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Forchedo sounds like a Desi Arnaz song. ;D
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I think you should have Ghost on the tailgate. Maybe Moose can Photoshop it (http://rustybowtie.com/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
OK, Tom suggested that we have a look at the tailgate with a new logo....What do you thing Ghost???
(http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq7/themoose524/Rusty%20Bowtie/ghost_zpsnflgulak.jpg)
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Moose, great job! I think that would look great on the car/truck/Dodge/Chevy/Ford!
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Now that's cool. Thanks moose
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That would be cool since that has been my call sign for quite awhile.
HOW ABOUT CUTTING OUT THE F O R D AND TAKING A BEAD ROLLER AND ROLLING IN ghostin the metal and tig mig it into tail gate.. Some practice on scrap definitely a must do
mike 8)
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I like that idea Tom.
I'm enjoying watching this come together.
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I like it,
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You could roll in some GHOST FLAMES while you're at it. I sort of think it would be too quite on what I'm seeing as a clean basic kind of build. You have done some cleaver crafty things here and a plain tailgate would fit. But.......... :)
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Dang Ghost, your going to have a cool and cheap '24 Dodge Model AAP (all american parts) Roadster pick up there! ;D You got one heck of a deal on that bed. Looks like your going to have great leg room also!
I would think about selling the Ford tailgate and getting a plain one. Then either get "Ghost" or "Dodge" in vinyl or magnetic (that would get the Dodge boys scratching their heads). It would make selling a bit easier. Rebel Roy/Sugar Pudd'n lettered on the doors or etched on the glass can de-value to the new owner.(i've done that before) ;)
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I think you should have Ghost on the tailgate. Maybe Moose can Photoshop it (http://rustybowtie.com/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
OK, Tom suggested that we have a look at the tailgate with a new logo....What do you thing Ghost???
(http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq7/themoose524/Rusty%20Bowtie/ghost_zpsnflgulak.jpg)
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only way your going to duplicate that lettering style or anything else is to have a **** water jet or laser cutter**** make it in aluminum or steel' interesting Font .
mike 8) )
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Great score, Ghost, and you gotta love the t'gate idea!
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Sammons, If he called it All American Roadster Pickup that would be AARP. That'sjust not Hot Roddey. ;D
Madmike. That's nice with the Ford style letters. What would block letters like Dodge used look?
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not many pictures of dodge bros roadster pickups in the 24--30 era floating around, see what I can find, but I like the font of **ghost*** whatever it is .
Found pictures but its always a 3/4 front shot, nothing from the rear..............bummer.
pin stripper , sign painter can conjur up whatever ghost thinks looks good
mike 8)
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Yep, AARP wouldn't fly ;D
Found an original Plymouth and a repo Dodge. Doesn't give a specific year however, but would say it has to be close.
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Must be about time for an update.
You got this thing runnin yet John? ;)
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Not running yet. buying parts though. I got a frame the guy said it was a 26 turns out its a 29 chevy which is better. It was used as a hay rack for quite a few years so the frame is real clean.
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That is a nice one. I drug a '29 out of the brush but while I was loading it I saw that it had been in a fire and it is bent and warped from the heat and probably has no strength. Are you going to use the front suspension setup?
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That is a nice one. I drug a '29 out of the brush but while I was loading it I saw that it had been in a fire and it is bent and warped from the heat and probably has no strength. Are you going to use the front suspension setup?
Probably wont use it,but it's in pretty good shape so nothing is set in stone yet. I have the whole thing stripped down to just the frame now.
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I really like the looks of parallel leafs in the front. It does create lowering issues without a ridiculous dropped axle. I like the old 3 springer style used a lot in the early days when Ford was not the norm. Here is a link to a thread on the HAMB.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/three-springer-3-springer-picture-thread.583579/ (http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/three-springer-3-springer-picture-thread.583579/)
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The frame sure looks nice.
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Dang Ghost, your moving right along. You sure seem to be in the right time and place to pick up the parts you need. :)
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Didn't take you long to get it cleaned up :)
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Thanks guys. I have had a lock on a lincoln versaille 9 inch disc brake axle for quite awhile. I decided the time was right to go get it for this project.
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Having been off the interweb mostly for the last week and a half, I looked in, expecting to see You Tube vids, of you out doing skids in this by now, haha.
Guess we all get busy with other things along the way, but I'll be expecting a picture update in the near future. ;)
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Just gathering parts. I have everything to build the complete frame, but I have a 3 ford coupe in my shop doing some updates to it, but once it's gone GAME ON. A friens bought a matchbox style model a rodster pickup by for me now I have my inspiration for the build.
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I found a set of monogram twin beam headlights for the little truck. They are the same set I have on the buick, I must like them.
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I like em, and since you have a set on the Buick, setting them up will be a breeze.
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I think I have enough parts to build this hot rod. I still need a grille shell, hood or bonnet if you prefer, tires, drive shaft, and steering collumn and wheel. O f course all the little trinkets like brake lines and assorted crap. Oh and some rear gears for the nine inch. DANG SO CLOSE.
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I prefer hood, over bonnet.
Being that this is an American build. Lol.
Some of the older car guys down here call Coles, scuttle. I tell em, if they refer to an American car, then they should use American terms. :D
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Since selling the Buick I have been spending time on the 24 dodge pickup. I have gotten the frame boxed, all the suspension mocked up, and found a 5.7 hemi and 5 speed automatic from a 2006 dodge ram. I couldn't be happier with the way it fits the frame. This little truck should be a rocket f I can get traction. Have a look guys
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Very interesting combination. It will be a rocket, Hang ON! Nice work.
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That is a good looking drive-line ;), what's the plan for the harness and PCM?
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That is a good looking drive-line ;), what's the plan for the harness and PCM?
i found a company on line called hot wire. They specialize in all makes and model harnesses. For about 1,400 dollars they will make a harness for the engine and trans complete with a 4 wire hookup, and reprogram my computer for a plug and play setup.
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That looks great Ghost. Forget the wiring harness, you're gonna need a quality seatbelt harness!!
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That is a good looking drive-line ;), what's the plan for the harness and PCM?
i found a company on line called hot wire. They specialize in all makes and model harnesses. For about 1,400 dollars they will make a harness for the engine and trans complete with a 4 wire hookup, and reprogram my computer for a plug and play setup.
Reminds me of the Gas Monkey Garage episode when they put the HellCat engine in the 1967 Dodge Dart. It all came down to syncing the PCM and BCM.
Here is the story..."Diablosport" is another outfit that might help with the harness/programming.
http://www.hotrod.com/articles/revealed-how-gas-monkeys-67-dart-beat-roadkill/
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Ghost nice work as usual! Going to be a rocket ship ;D
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Very nice should be a screamer
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PCM i know of, but bcm? Ed your scaring me
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PCM i know of, but bcm? Ed your scaring me
The BCM (body control module) in GM stuff controls stuff like interior functions - lights and the VATS (vehicle anti theft system) etc. If the correct key is inserted in the ignition the BCM sends the OK signal to the PCM (powertrain control module) and allows the vehicle to deliver fuel or spark to run. I believe in the Gas Monkey episode the BCM wasn't communicating with PCM..that's where the tuners come in.
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oh I see. hot wire is going to reprogram the computer and take all the crap out of it so i shouldn't have to go throuh that. I won't have to have an original key to make it run.
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oh I see. hot wire is going to reprogram the computer and take all the crap out of it so i shouldn't have to go throuh that. I won't have to have an original key to make it run.
Keep me posted I'd like to know if they can just program the PCM to eliminate the BCM in the MOPAR stuff.
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I'll let ya know. I had to go get the throttle pedal out of the truck, it also goes with the computer operation.
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I'll let ya know. I had to go get the throttle pedal out of the truck, it also goes with the computer operation.
That's one thing (drive by wire) that can be tuned out in the LS engine series to use the conventional accelerator cable drive. You might want to verify that the BCM is/isn't also required just in case?
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I'll let ya know. I had to go get the throttle pedal out of the truck, it also goes with the computer operation.
That's one thing (drive by wire) that can be tuned out in the LS engine series to use the conventional accelerator cable drive. You might want to verify that the BCM is/isn't also required just in case?
Will do Thanks Ed
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I'm sure you are not the first guy to put one of these in pre-computer home. I was surprised back in '08 when we did a demo at Bonneville and ran my 270 GMC on early '90s GMC TBI. It took just a few wires and sensors. Ignition would have only been a few more. It took about 30 minutes to get it running. I know new stuff is more complicated because of the integrated systems but you can do it.
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The engine and trans are mounted in the frame. I brought the body home to check on fit, it all looked good until I sized up the bed. I would have had to cut the bed down 5 inches to make it work, but that would have made the little truck look like a t bucket. I decided since the firewall needed to be replaced along with a 6.5 inch setback it was the place to cut, and leave the bed proportions alone. I then set the cab in it's place and set the 28 chevy fenders and boards, well I found out the 29 ford bed is quite a bit narrower than a chevy bodyby about 6 inches, but no problem I made a couple of extension to mount to the bed so the fenders will be in the proper position just like they did ford trucks just a bit larger. HAVE A LOOK.
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Nice work Ghost. Boy that's going to be a tight little package!
Tom
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Actually there is a lot of leg room
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That's going to be a sweet ride.......looking good
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That's some great work Ghost, but here's a thought. Unless the rear differential sticks out way past the frame rails, how about widening the rear fenders instead of the extensions? Just my 2 cents... :-X
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Thats quite the project Ghost. Looks like you have a plan. I still find it strange that 6yrs ago I never seen a '24 Dodge. When I got my Dodge coupe I had no idea what year it was or if it was actually a Dodge. Friend of my dads ID'd it for me. When I give it to my buddy Shane, he ran across another '24 coupe and bought it at an auction 6 months later. ;D
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the rear fender looks good widened in this way , reminds me of my friend Bobs 1931 ford pickup rear fenders. That's the way ford did them. Breaks up what could be have been a very wide looking rear fender. Gets my vote.
My friend frank bought a 1925 dodge bros 4 door sedan and street rodded it with a 454 under the hood and later replaced with a 1984 TPI 350. Big problem with these cars is filling the rear wheel wells as they came with a 33" tall tire and a large rim 17--20" and tire are difficult to source. Silly narrow side walls are not the program on these.
gonna be another great GHOST build
mike lynch
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Thanks guys. chopper. the 29 chevy frame cuts out past the side of the bed, so this way is the less of 2 evils. Madmike. thank heaven these are 28 chevy rear fenders so it won't be as hard to fill them up. sammons I know what you mean when I started this build the very next swap meet had a phaeton 24 dodge project with a hemi for sale.
I have all the fenders and boards installed, I also set the 28 chevy radiator shell where I want it to sit.
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I recieved my harness and comp back from hot wire, man they do a nice and tidy job. They also do harness and computer stuff for LS engines.
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I have been working on the dodge lately finishing up a lot of fitment issues, so far so good. I spent the day making the folding top mechanism I have a few support bars to finish tomorrow, then install the correct hardware and test the folding of it. I did chop about ten inches out of the windshield posts and they ae still close to 15 inches long.
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Nice work Ghost :D
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Looking great Ghost
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Thanks guys. I have the folding mechanism working pretty good. woo hoo
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Great job on the irons Ghost! I get lost on figuring out all of the pivot points ;)
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I'm going to have to do that some day and I'm not looking forward to it. Maybe I'll just wear a raincoat and a shower cap. ::)
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When you are ready I can either talk you through it or send me some detailed measurements of your roadster and I can draw up some plans.
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Thanks! It won't be soon. In fact the roadster project is having to give way again to more pressing issues.