Rusty Bowtie

General Category => Early Chevy/GM Discussion => Topic started by: ghost28 on January 16, 2013, 05:55:15 PM

Title: Not quite a bow tie, but cool none the less
Post by: ghost28 on January 16, 2013, 05:55:15 PM
I found this while checking out the local Colorado Craigs list. It's a 1926 buick roadster that originally came with a 6 cylinder engine, It has all the original fenders, hood, grille shell, frame, and most of the lighting. His asking price is $3,000.00 with a title. I wish I had the money to haggle with him. It would be a really cool build.
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Post by: TFoch on January 16, 2013, 06:50:16 PM
Wow that is really cool! That would make a great project.
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Post by: john miller on January 29, 2013, 06:37:41 PM
So, have you bought it yet?   ;D

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Post by: ghost28 on February 02, 2013, 01:29:19 PM
So, have you bought it yet?   ;D
Naw I didn't have the money when it was listed and now it has been taken off craigs list, but
Title: Re: Not quite a bow tie, but cool none the less
Post by: ghost28 on February 03, 2013, 10:32:40 AM
Well the guy still has the buick, but he decided to keep it for now and took the add off . I did call him and he is open to sell it for his asking price.  I am not into open cars ,but MAN am I torn up over this car. I have a nice front and rear axle, nice new aluminum radiator, and a 401 nail head engine and trans from a 62 buick. I am prolly gonna get it, but I will hold off until next week and let my new knee heal a little bit longer. I am not one to ask for opinions , BUT what do you guys think of this deal.
Thanks...John
Title: Re: Not quite a bow tie, but cool none the less
Post by: TFoch on February 03, 2013, 10:42:08 AM
John,
I think that would make a cool hot rod.  $3000 is not a bad deal for such a rare car.  Looks like all the panels are in good shape and you'd have everything you need except the frame.  You'd have the only one at any cruise night you showed up to.
Tom
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Post by: ghost28 on February 03, 2013, 10:47:02 AM
Thanks Tom
It has the original good condition frame, and original guages. I am not sure, but I think it has the roof bows also. I know it is a good deal, but I always try to get a better deal. I better not screw around and lose it....John
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Post by: woodremover on February 03, 2013, 10:51:55 AM
John
        Look's like a great deal to me ,I wouldn't waste any time getting over to get it! Most of the hard to find pieces are there, doors ,windshield stantions, grill,hood, trunklid,TITLE, and the the body has been media blasted.
 Will make an awsome and rare roadster  Joe Mac 
Title: Re: Not quite a bow tie, but cool none the less
Post by: ghost28 on February 03, 2013, 10:56:33 AM
Thanks Joe.
It will most likely be my next build, and yes the body panels and media blasting is a good start on this one. I will keep you all informed.
Thanks... John
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Post by: TFoch on February 03, 2013, 01:21:29 PM
John,
Sounds like you would have all the ingredients for a really cool ride!
Tom
Title: Re: Not quite a bow tie, but cool none the less
Post by: ghost28 on February 03, 2013, 02:41:19 PM
John,
Sounds like you would have all the ingredients for a really cool ride!
Tom

I will get the headlight brackets out next week for you.
 
Thanks Tom. Ijust made him an offer through email and I am just waiting for his reply. if it's meant to be I will be the new owner even if I have to give the full price.
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Post by: woodremover on February 03, 2013, 02:55:33 PM
Good move
                  Will make such a cool car! was getting ready to flogg my 3 window and buy it out from under ya ! But seriously it will make a great rod joe mac
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Post by: TFoch on February 03, 2013, 06:50:24 PM
Great let us know when you hear back from him!  Let me know what the shipping will be on the headlight bars.
Tom
Title: Re: Not quite a bow tie, but cool none the less
Post by: ghost28 on February 04, 2013, 10:46:10 AM
Great let us know when you hear back from him!  Let me know what the shipping will be on the headlight bars.
Tom
I just heard back via email about the buick. He will not come off the original price, and I found out it has no rear fenders. Not a deal breaker buy no means. I have a friend that knows him and maybe I can haggle with him through him. I just like  bartoring as much as the build I guess. I am gonna probably get it no matter what the outcome of the deal making,  it would be a one of a kind build because of the rarity of the car.  I hope to post pictures of it from my shop in the near future.
John
Title: Re: Not quite a bow tie, but cool none the less
Post by: ghost28 on February 04, 2013, 06:25:05 PM
(Done deal) I own it and I will finalize the deal and pick it up tomorrow morning.  I had to give him his asking price, but you guys are right about it being a rare find, and I am sure I will  have fun with the build.  I didn't want it to fall into the wrong hands namely not mine.   More to follow.
Thanks for helping me spend my money....John
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Post by: woodremover on February 04, 2013, 06:48:19 PM
Way to John
                    Now I can keep my 3 windoe lol Get the picture's coming A real cool build coming up!!
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Post by: EDNY on February 04, 2013, 06:50:10 PM
Congratulations on the new member of your familiy ;D  Should pass out some cigars????
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Post by: TFoch on February 04, 2013, 07:24:55 PM
Congrats John on the new project! I'm sure it'll be top notch as the ones in the past.  Looking forward to the pictures.
Tom
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Post by: john miller on February 04, 2013, 07:34:35 PM
I think you made the right decision.
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Post by: themoose on February 04, 2013, 07:40:14 PM
Congratulations John!! Keep us posted on the build. I think It's great that your keeping it all Buick. That 401 should really get the job done.
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Post by: john miller on February 04, 2013, 07:44:50 PM
I hope you realize that we are expecting an EPIC build thread on here. 8)
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Post by: chopper526 on February 04, 2013, 09:08:14 PM
I think you knew you were going to buy that car when you first posted about it ;)
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Post by: ghost28 on February 04, 2013, 09:14:52 PM
I think you knew you were going to buy that car when you first posted about it ;)
Oh yeah. In the imortal words of Marty Mcflys dad in back to the future. It's my density.  HEHE
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Post by: john miller on February 05, 2013, 02:10:53 PM
Well?, we're waiting.....
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Post by: ghost28 on February 05, 2013, 03:57:00 PM
Well?, we're waiting.....
Patience grass hopper.
I now have a large pile of parts in my shop that hopefully this after noon I can sort through. There is a lot of parts and boxes to go through. The buick came with an early factory version of a 1/4 eliptical rear spring set up that I am gonna try to incorporate back into this build since the springs and all the hardware came with it. As for the rear,  I have an 8 and 3/4 70 cuda complete rear axle, and for the front I have a real nice 1939 plymouth truck front axle with juice drum brakes, I am gonna try to use. As said before the powerplant is gonna be a 62 buick 401 4 barrel nail head. I am still undecided on the transmission choice maybe with my new knees a 4 speed is not out of line. I am thinking on full fendered, running boards, and splash aprons, BUT HIBOY IS NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION. It did not come with rear fenders, running boards, or the splash aprons, So the search is on for these items or some close enough to work so keep your eyes open for them guys. I will bob the frame in the rear and put a rolled pan back there . The gas tank will be hidden in the trunk with a early mopar gas cap fill system on top of the driver quarter panel.  It will have a roll bar in it just for safety. The car even though classified as a roadster from the factory did have a non removable top with removable side or window screens that I got with the car. I will incorporate a soft folding top that will hopefully work with all these factory original items. It came with the original steering collumn and 4 spoke wheel that I am gonna try to use. No headlight came with it, so an early guide style is to my liking. If you have any ideas you guys like send them along. I think this is gonna be a fun filled build for me and I can't wait to get started, but my knees have to heal a little bit more. Can you tell I am exciterd....John
Title: Re: Not quite a bow tie, but cool none the less
Post by: john miller on February 08, 2013, 04:39:31 PM
Don't know if these will work but they're bound to be similar.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1927-Chevy-Capital-Splash-Aprons-/271149714030?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f21c84a6e&vxp=mtr
Title: Re: Not quite a bow tie, but cool none the less
Post by: ghost28 on February 08, 2013, 05:42:56 PM
Don't know if these will work but they're bound to be similar.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1927-Chevy-Capital-Splash-Aprons-/271149714030?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f21c84a6e&vxp=mtr
Hey John Thanks. Those splash aprons might be a little smaller than the buick item, but I will look into them. I wish I had them when I built my 27 chevy. The splash aprons are a simple bend from 18 guage metal that I can probably do, but they wouldn't have the detail that the original buick had. Thanks guys for keeping a look out for parts.
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Post by: ghost28 on February 09, 2013, 08:11:07 PM
I know some of you guys have read this on the HAMB,
I did spend some time out in the shop today just fabbing up the body of the buick. It was twisted up pretty bad, but with a little coaxing it started to look like a car again. Mostly I tacked all the panels together so I can start a steel  skeleton interior, and  mock up the steel for the hinges for  the doors and trunk. The cockpit is rather large for a 20s model so seating and leg room is going to be plenty, and the engine bay is large enough to put a big detroit Diesel in there so the 401 should fit just fine. I am not sure why my pic's are always so large. HELP
You guys have a look....John
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Post by: TFoch on February 09, 2013, 08:39:12 PM
John, that's going to make one cool ride!  Looking forward to seeing the progress. Tom
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Post by: themoose on February 09, 2013, 09:23:23 PM
Looks good....I can't wait to see the finished car. Keep um coming!!

You can reduce the size of your pictures without any special software.Just open the pic in MS Paint (comes with all editions of windows )
and choose at the top of the page Image and then Stretch/Skew and then in the box that opens just put in the percentage that you want the picture to be.For example if you want it to be reduced to 50% of its original size just enter 50 for both the horizontal and vertical dimensions and click OK and then go to file  and Save As and enter a name for the reduced pic. Choose Save As and rename so you don't change the size of the original picture.
Title: Re: Not quite a bow tie, but cool none the less
Post by: ghost28 on February 11, 2013, 04:40:26 PM
I went by a buddys house the other day to check on some splash aprons he had, it turn out they were 33 chevy units. So Tom If I don't end up using them I'll let ya know. I n the process of looking around he showed me a set of stainless headlights and support bar he thought they were for a model A. I found out they were for a 32 ford, and I will probably use them on the buick . The best part he gave everything to me. I have a set of 15 by 5 inch rallys he has been looking at so I will probably give them to him just for grins. I't cool to have good friends with old car parts laying around. Here is a picture of a 26 buick roadster finished out as a hot rod. With a nail head buick engine..John
Title: Re: Not quite a bow tie, but cool none the less
Post by: themoose on February 11, 2013, 08:19:18 PM
John....That's like winning the lottery. I have good friends but the old car parts around my neck of the woods are getting to be pretty scarce.

Moose
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Post by: TFoch on February 11, 2013, 08:50:52 PM
Sounds like a great friend!  You must have 95% of the parts you need.  Yeah let me know if you come across any 33 parts you don't use.  That black Roadster looks sweet!  Must get the blood flowing in that new knee of yours.
Tom
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Post by: woodremover on February 12, 2013, 08:30:02 AM
John
        Had the same problem with my picture's being so large,went into the menu on my camera and there are different size formats to chose from and turned them down to a smaller image.
now all my new picture's download to a proper size joe mac
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Post by: ghost28 on February 12, 2013, 04:53:32 PM
John
        Had the same problem with my picture's being so large,went into the menu on my camera and there are different size formats to chose from and turned them down to a smaller image.
now all my new picture's download to a proper size joe mac
Thanks . I am gonna check that out. My pictures never were that large before so it's probably something I have done with my camera. If not I have program that I can use to resize them. Thanks Moose for the advise you gave also....John
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Post by: killbilly on February 12, 2013, 07:05:51 PM
John,that is a badass lookin roadster,i can really see the possibilities.you have scored a really unusual one!  cant wait to see how this one goes   Phillip
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Post by: ghost28 on February 14, 2013, 02:41:42 PM
Thanks Killbilly. I have been gathering parts for the roadster project. As usual after a large swap meet al kinds of parts hit the local craigs list with good pricing. I was able to pick up a set of brake and clutch pedals from an old race car with willwood master cylinders attached for a  hydraulic clutch and fluid brakes, prolly gonna use this on the buick and also a complete under the floor board 7 inch booster,  master cylinder, and swing arm assembly for future trading or sale. Gave $200.00 for all that. I also found a cherry set of I believe 32 ford steel roadster rear fenders that fit the buick fender well perfect for $200.00 . I talked to a guy last night that has a cherry 68 camaro saginaw 4 speed with a new hurst shifter he wants $400.00 and a pair of brand new old style torque thrust 15 by 7 inch wheels with the grey center spokes  and polished outer for $120.00 these are the wheels I am looking for the buick build. I am also looking at a muncie m 20 with a hurst shifter for $400.00 it has a bad syncro in third gear he thinks. I am about to run out of car funds soon and am gonna have to start building the damn thing. Don't know what I did, but please look at the pic's in the small size because they are really large now. OOOPS
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Post by: ghost28 on February 15, 2013, 04:42:06 PM
I had to do it, before I spent the money on something stupid. I bought the adaptor kit from bendsten's to put a 4 speed in the buick, so that is out of the way and it will have to be a 4 speed hot rod. Now I am really low on the car fund.
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Post by: TFoch on February 16, 2013, 12:24:40 AM
"Now I am really low on the car fund."
But look on the bright side John, you have lots of parts that are going to make a really cool hot rod.  Sit back and look at what you got and get it started.  Your knee should be in great shape by the time you'll be banging gears in it!
Tom
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Post by: themoose on February 16, 2013, 04:36:38 PM
I had to do it, before I spent the money on something stupid. I bought the adaptor kit from bendsten's to put a 4 speed in the buick, so that is out of the way and it will have to be a 4 speed hot rod. Now I am really low on the car fund.

We've all been there. As they say "Its only money" You'll forget all about it when those shiny new parts arrive. 8)
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Post by: ghost28 on February 16, 2013, 10:32:42 PM
Oh yeah I can't wait for those parts to show up. Most likely I'll just put them away and concentrate on the body rebuilding. The whole lower portion of the buick is paper thin so I spent the afternoon with my plasma cutter and a tape measure making all the patch panels. I will probably start to install them after I get some 3/4 inch square tubing to make some of the bracing that will go with them. I did decide that the seating area was too large, it looked like a limo, and with a 120 inch wheelbase on this car I am gonna cut 6 inches out of the body and the frame to get a respectable 114 inch wheel base. It will still give my 6 foot frame plenty of room to stretch out my new knees, and look more like the black roadster pictured previously, which I believe is a standard model with a 114 inch wheel base from the factory. A little more work, but hey that's what we do.
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Post by: TFoch on February 16, 2013, 10:44:25 PM
Looks like you been putting some time and thought into this project.  6 inches out of the passenger compartment will look good.
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Post by: ghost28 on February 16, 2013, 10:54:26 PM
Looks like you been putting some time and thought into this project.  6 inches out of the passenger compartment will look good.

 Yeah the doors are 24 1/2 inches long, and the back half from the doors back is probably the same or more. It needed it because the proportions were all wrong. I could have put jump seats behind the regular seat. Not my style.
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Post by: TFoch on February 16, 2013, 10:59:18 PM
I figured you could have put a hell of a sub woofer back there and really make the car rock!
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Post by: themoose on February 17, 2013, 06:40:28 AM
I agree that the new proportions are right on the money. Can't wait to see it come together.
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Post by: ghost28 on February 17, 2013, 06:40:27 PM
Then it's set. I am gonna shorten the frame and the seating area by 6 inches Thanks guys for the positive responce to this idea. As for the big speakers or stereo in this car they will have to find there own area to hide out. I have enough to do with out thinking about the sounds coming from the car, other than the engine or pipe noises. Thanks
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Post by: RayPrager on February 18, 2013, 08:45:23 PM
LOL......busy,busy.... at least my 31 is in the garage now....LOL
Ray
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Post by: ghost28 on February 18, 2013, 10:39:00 PM
LOL......busy,busy.... at least my 31 is in the garage now....LOL
Ray
Yes it is now. Get that plan of attack in motion for that 31 coupe.
I spent presidents day in the shop. I installed the new lower wheel tub and the lower patch panel on the quarter panel drivers side. This was after I took 6 inches out of the rear of the buick and reattached  the door closure steel on both sides. Yep. Busy busy is the new slogan.
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