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Title: Intro and questions
Post by: RCstang on October 19, 2014, 06:32:00 PM
This is my first time on this site so please excuse any questions that seem less informed.  I have a friend of our family who wants me to sell 3 cars for him, he's about 80 and not net savvy.  He has a 55 Hudson Hornet Coupe and a 55 Hudson Hornet Hollywood and a 33 Chevrolet coupe.  All 3 cars have been in a barn for over 20 years and this week I'm supposed to help him move, clean and start the selling process.  I'm not interested in the 2 Hudsons but I'd like to work a deal that involves me buying the 33 chevy.

The last time I saw the 33 it was restored to original and drivable.  Very nice vehicle.  But that's been a long time ago so I'm not sure what to expect.  I'd like to see it converted to a street rod with a small block chevy, since the engine is probably locked up anyway.  What advice can you guys give me regarding what to look for?  What to avoid?  What is a good frame for the conversion to street rod?  etc, etc.  Please feel free to share as many details or links as possible.

Hopefully I can get some pictures tomorrow or Tuesday.
Thanks,
Ron
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: TFoch on October 19, 2014, 07:10:34 PM
Hi Ron,
Welcome to the forum!  I hope you get the 33 Chevy and if you do this is a great site to get the info you need to help you get it done.  I have a 33 Chevy Cabriolet and I used the original frame.  I boxed it and and added Posie's leaf spring rear suspension and a TCI front coil over suspension.  It works great with the 350/290 hp Chevy small block I have in it.
The biggest thing to look at is the condition of the wood.  The structure that holds the body together and on the chassis is all wood.  If this is in poor condition then it has to be replaced with wood or metal.  This is the part that took me the longest as all of my wood needed to be replaced.  If you get pictures I'd love to see them.  If you have any questions you can post them or PM me.
Tom
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: 62131 on October 19, 2014, 07:30:51 PM
Hello Ron

Welcome to the rusty bowtie, You find there is a lot great guys here willing to help in any way they can. I read your post and hope it all works out for you. As Tom stated you need to pay attention to the wood in the car as if it's in bad shape it will have to be replaced with wood or steel. I have a 32 coach that I've been working on for a couple years now. I used the original frame, replaced the front and rear suspension and all the wood with steel. Good Luck.
   
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: madmike3434 on October 19, 2014, 07:53:07 PM
re the 1933 Chevrolet...........this year there were 2 distinct models offered..........they produced the STANDARD SERIES which has a 107 inch wheelbase and it only came in a 3 window coupe and a 2 door sedan, its a rare car model as not a lot were made.

The other is the master series of which they made a lot of body styles.....coupes.......3 & 5 window, roadster, convertible ( cabriolet ), touring, 2 door and 4 door sedans.  The wheelbase is 110" I believe.

There should be a stamped aluminum plate of the passenger firewall, engine side, that will tell us exactly what you found.

If the car was restored at one time, then most likely the wood is in good condition.

To get the right price range a professional car appraiser should be called in for all 3 cars.  I would see if there is an online club to get an idea of what those hudsons are worth.  Try doing a search on ebay to get an idea.

mike lynch------------ 8)..........SHAZZBOTT
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: sammons on October 19, 2014, 08:48:33 PM
RC, welcome to the site. Hope you get the '33.  As far as a time line to covert, I suppose that it would depend on your skill set, access to the right tools, and time available to work on it. However much time you think, it will be more ;D, always does. But if your wood is good, your way ahead of most. That is where the real time piles up.

Good luck to you. Looking forward to some pics !!
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: EDNY on October 19, 2014, 11:32:20 PM
Ron

Welcome to the most mature car site on the Internet.  If that old Chevy is original but not running...don't feel obligated to hotrod it.  I rodded my 33 Chevy because it was started as a street rod when I picked it up and was way beyond restoration.

That said..I wouldn't mind having an original car either. My first 30's Chevy was a 37 coupe, it was original and complete..just needed the interior redone. Didn't have it in me to hot rod it so I sold it and bought the 33.

The neat thing about this site is that you won't get threats if you decide to rod it :)  You have options..i.e. restro-rod etc...but just owning a vintage Chevy -even if not running..is a real good thing!

Sure would like to see pictures of the Hudson's also.

Ed
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: RCstang on October 20, 2014, 06:51:14 AM
Thank you for the advice and intros.

When I was a kid (now in my 40's) I rode in these cars.  He would bring them over and I was in awe.  I'd never seen anything like them in person.  As a kid I told him that I wanted the 33...some things never change.  :)
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: EDNY on October 20, 2014, 08:02:54 AM
Thank you for the advice and intros.

When I was a kid (now in my 40's) I rode in these cars.  He would bring them over and I was in awe.  I'd never seen anything like them in person.  As a kid I told him that I wanted the 33...some things never change.  :)

As a youth I lived in Buffalo, NY and remember riding in the 1940's era cars all plastered with political sign each election cycle.

The folks would even paint their old car with brushes and house paint with candidates names...politics were taken serious.

Obviously before the Internet and negative TV commercials.
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: madmike3434 on October 20, 2014, 11:45:33 AM
Thank you for the advice and intros.

When I was a kid (now in my 40's) I rode in these cars.  He would bring them over and I was in awe.  I'd never seen anything like them in person.  As a kid I told him that I wanted the 33...some things never change.  :)

I always liked the 33 Chevrolet for its particular style.....its the transition year, still has the gravel shield in front,  that makes it relate to prior years.  I always liked the 3 door hood which was also a carryover from the 32 styling. The car started the swoopier look with skirted fenders and windshield slightly angled.  It has a longer wheelbase to make it ride nicer, even stock.

If you get the car post pictures of it on here, to this thread, VERY EASY TO DO !

mike lynch............... 8)....shazzbott and old black 35 chevrolets
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: sixball on October 20, 2014, 02:04:03 PM
Hello Ron, I'll be the fuddy duddy. If the 33 was put away with any care at all there is no reason to expect any serious problems with the mechanical side. If it is a complete restored car I'd have a problem cutting it up. If I did rod it I'd put a hot Chevy or GMC inline six in it. My old '53 pickup is going 90 at 3,000 rpm and will cruse at 70-80 all day. It sounds great and is a little different when you raise the hood. But like all the guys here say it's yours and we'd be glad to help you if we can. Also remember that the parts you take off are not useless junk. :)   Tom
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: chopper526 on October 21, 2014, 12:23:33 PM
Welcome aboard RCStang! I love hot rods! Especially coupes, sedans, roadsters and door slammers: chopped, channeled, highboy, slammed, fenderless, runningboards, suicide, you name it! But I am kinda with Sixball on this car you may purchase. It would be a little tough for me to cut up an original in decent shape.
   Anyway, that being said, if you get the car and decide to tear it apart, good luck, it's your car!! You will get a ton of help here.
The thing to look for, as the other guys said is the wood. If you have good wood (heehee) that's  great. On mine, I had virtually no wood left. The original frame should work good for you. I boxed the original frame and used square metal tubing in place of wood.
No matter what, having a welder would probably be a big plus. ;D
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: RCstang on October 21, 2014, 03:00:39 PM
Ok here are the pics
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: madmike3434 on October 21, 2014, 03:38:26 PM
by the FISHER BODY TAG, style # 33-567 , what you have is a 1933 Chevrolet MASTER SERIES CA , 5 window non rumble seat coupe.

They made a lot of 33 chev master series.......all the sheet metal is 1933 only.  I call the 33 the transition era car......has 32 style grave shield , hood have doors, and the rest is 33 more swoopy design...fenders have skirts in them front and back.

Other than the canvas in the roof top being gone, doesn't appear to be a bad car.  Love the paint scheme, very pleasing to the eye.  It appears to be complete but doesn't show any optional items, like bumper guards, rad ornament, luggage rack.

Looks like it has rust problems on bottom area of door and the quarter panel.  Probably from water trapped behind the wood ?


mike lynch       8)   shazzbott and old black 35 chevys
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: themoose on October 21, 2014, 03:58:11 PM
Ron
The 33 looks to have nice sheet metal so that's a big plus. One thing that concerns me is that the canvas top seems to be missing which was the downfall of many old Chevy's. Water would find its way into the body through the exposed top and soak into the wood and over time the body frame would start to deteriorate and rot. I was lucky with my wood and only had to replace a few pieces so I opted to stay with all wood. As the others have said the decision of going stock or rod is totally up to you. How would you get the most enjoyment from the car. To me it doesn't make sense to build a car a certain way because it seems like the right thing to do and  then not really enjoy it fully because it's really not what you wanted ....Take of from someone who's been there. What ever you decide to do everyone on the Rusty Bowtie will be happy to help in any way we can...That's what makes our site so great.

Moose
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: chopper526 on October 21, 2014, 04:58:23 PM
I like it, Ron. No matter what you choose you will have fun, I am sure. I don't think I would have any regrets turning that car into a hotrod. Buy it for a fair price and let's gooooooooo...........!!!
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: 62131 on October 21, 2014, 05:50:19 PM
Ron  Looks to be a good start any way you choose to go, As it has been said build it the way you want so that it makes you happy.
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: RCstang on October 21, 2014, 05:51:47 PM
Here is a little more information, that I learned today.

He moved the car out of the barn when the barn started deteriorating.  He put blocks under the front frame so the front tires are off the ground and still have air in them.  It was covered by 3 tarps/car covers.  The canvas top and wood frame fell into the car.  The canvas is torn but the frame is really close to complete.  There is some wood rot at the top.  He took the seats out of the car and stored them in a spare room of his house.  The flywheel turns so it seems that the engine isn't locked up.  The running boards need to be replaced.  There was a small amount of rust at the bottom of the driver's side door.  Everything else seems to be fine with most spots being paint chipping off.  He wants me to make an offer but I really have no idea of value.

The other two cars - The 55 Hudson is currently trapped in the barn.  It will take several hours of work to get it out of there.  It is almost complete, except that someone stole the radiator.  The other Hudson isn't a 55 as I originally thought, it's a 50 Hudson Coupe.  He says it's complete but that is difficult to tell.  The 1950 is the worst of the 3.

Before I make him an offer I want to check out the interior and the wood framing as you guys have suggested.  What is a 32 style grave shield? (madmike's post)
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: TFoch on October 21, 2014, 07:48:53 PM
Ron,
Looks like a good start from the outside.  It'll be interesting to see how the wood is.  Looks like all the parts are there.
Tom
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: chopper526 on October 21, 2014, 09:15:44 PM
Here is a little more information, that I learned today.

He moved the car out of the barn when the barn started deteriorating.  He put blocks under the front frame so the front tires are off the ground and still have air in them.  It was covered by 3 tarps/car covers.  The canvas top and wood frame fell into the car.  The canvas is torn but the frame is really close to complete.  There is some wood rot at the top.  He took the seats out of the car and stored them in a spare room of his house.  The flywheel turns so it seems that the engine isn't locked up.  The running boards need to be replaced.  There was a small amount of rust at the bottom of the driver's side door.  Everything else seems to be fine with most spots being paint chipping off.  He wants me to make an offer but I really have no idea of value.

The other two cars - The 55 Hudson is currently trapped in the barn.  It will take several hours of work to get it out of there.  It is almost complete, except that someone stole the radiator.  The other Hudson isn't a 55 as I originally thought, it's a 50 Hudson Coupe.  He says it's complete but that is difficult to tell.  The 1950 is the worst of the 3.

Before I make him an offer I want to check out the interior and the wood framing as you guys have suggested.  What is a 32 style grave shield? (madmike's post)


I think what madmike means is gravel shield, the splash apron between the front fe.nders below the radiator shell
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: madmike3434 on October 21, 2014, 09:58:45 PM
yes, that's what I meant by a gravel shield,  the front between the fenders ,  SPLASH APRON.

I HAVE CALLED THAT PANEL , A GRAVEL SHIELD , AT LEAST 3 TIMES ON THIS SITE......NO IDEA WHY.

MIKE LYNCH       8)   
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: vette59jdwl on October 21, 2014, 10:54:42 PM
It must be a CANADIAN thing  i have called it a gravel shield for 50 years
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: vette59jdwl on October 21, 2014, 11:19:26 PM
   Well RON as you know by now you have reached the perfect CHEVY site The guys here are awsome and there are many guys that are behind the seen  Me  I have restored a 32 chevy roadster and in the meantime came across another 32 roadster.This one is behond saving so this one is going to get the street rod treatment. On the other had its getting a newer 6 cyl engine a five speed from an S10 and a mitsibuchi rear end along with a 54 chevy truck front end. Its yours  do what makes YOU HAPPY.just dont think this is going to get done in a year or so.Some of us here have been at it for 10 years or more  Welcome aboard  from CANADA.---VETTE59JDWL
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: chopper526 on October 22, 2014, 08:38:19 AM
It must be a CANADIAN thing  i have called it a gravel shield for 50 years

I thought it was "i have called it a gravel shield for 50 years, eh ;D
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: ghost28 on October 22, 2014, 09:08:31 AM
Man. That is a nice looking coupe. I don't know what it would be worth to you , but I would be starting around $3,000.00 and let him work me around a little bit on the price. I am sure it could go for quite a bit more. I say this price because  he said make an offer and that means he is wanting you to sell it and buy it at the same time. Good luck on getting it.
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: RCstang on October 23, 2014, 07:13:49 AM
To the gentlemen who suggested that I keep it original, I wouldn't consider that a "fuddy-duddy" response.  I think that's a legitimate option especially since it's never been hot rodded in it's 81 years of existence.  Hot rod or original these are beautiful cars.

This next part probably goes in the "tmi" (too much information) category.  My wife isn't thrilled about me looking at another old car.  Throughout our married life I've tinkered with old cars (chevy's and mustangs).  It's seems like she would be used to it by now.  A couple months ago I got rid of a 66 Fastback Mustang on ebay.  That did excite her!  The possibility that I would replace it is horrible.(in her mind)  So I'm trying to be creative and think of a way to get the car but not impose on her desire for a clean driveway.  I only have a two car garage.

He told me yesterday, while I was fixing the brakes in his daily driver, that he would rather I have the car than anyone else.  But I don't know if that affects the price.  Thanks again for the advice and listening to my story.
Ron
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: chopper526 on October 23, 2014, 09:08:59 AM
   Ron, I too am a Mustang guy. I have had a few over the years and still own a '67 convertible I bought back in 1976. Here's my TMI: I might be one of those rare guys who has a wife who humors me when it comes to cars. As long as I take care of business around the house she doesn't care what I do as far as the car thing goes.
   Early on when we were dating I invited her over to my apartment and asked her to bring a hair blowdryer. She asked why? I told her I needed her to help me reupholster seats for a Corvette I owned, and needed the blowdryer to soften the vinyl. Cool date, huh?
   Anyway, in the 22 years we have been married about a dozen cars have come and gone, why does she put up with me? ::)
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: sixball on October 24, 2014, 02:05:30 PM
There are more old wives than there are old Chevys. You may have to make a choice. ;)
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: madmike3434 on October 24, 2014, 04:40:20 PM
To the gentlemen who suggested that I keep it original, I wouldn't consider that a "fuddy-duddy" response.  I think that's a legitimate option especially since it's never been hot rodded in it's 81 years of existence.  Hot rod or original these are beautiful cars.

This next part probably goes in the "tmi" (too much information) category.  My wife isn't thrilled about me looking at another old car.  Throughout our married life I've tinkered with old cars (chevy's and mustangs).  It's seems like she would be used to it by now.  A couple months ago I got rid of a 66 Fastback Mustang on ebay.  That did excite her!  The possibility that I would replace it is horrible.(in her mind)  So I'm trying to be creative and think of a way to get the car but not impose on her desire for a clean driveway.  I only have a two car garage.

He told me yesterday, while I was fixing the brakes in his daily driver, that he would rather I have the car than anyone else.  But I don't know if that affects the price.  Thanks again for the advice and listening to my story.
Ron

TRY PUTTING THE CAR WORK ON HOLD AND CONCENTRATE ON HANGING AROUND REAL CLOSE TO HER , WHILE COOKING AND READING .  ESPECIALLY TV TIME AND CONTINUALLY TALK TO HER.    PRETTY SOON SHE WILL WISH YOU "WERE OUT IN THE GARAGE ".

MIKE     :-*
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: sammons on October 24, 2014, 09:03:50 PM
That's funny Mike, lol. About a week and a half, she maybe suggesting you go help your friends next weekend. Worked for dad anyway.
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: chopper526 on October 25, 2014, 08:49:14 AM
I just pace by the garage door and finally she just says "Oh go ahead, already!"
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: 62131 on October 26, 2014, 07:26:11 AM
Mine lets me go to garage so she can watch her TV shows in the evening
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: ghost28 on October 26, 2014, 10:49:10 AM
My wife is pretty good at the time I use for my projects, as long as I don't track any dirt or grease into the house were fine. Of course we have been playing this game for a long time.
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: TFoch on October 26, 2014, 07:03:56 PM
We have a two stall garage and neither of our daily drivers park in there.  She has no problem with me going out in the garage because she can watch all the shows she has on the DVR.  We don't have the same taste in TV shows so it gives her an opportunity to watch what she wants.  I have a TV out in the garage so I can watch all my "car" programs while working on the 33.  Everyone is happy!
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: 62131 on October 26, 2014, 08:19:17 PM
One more comment about the wives can you really make them happy.
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: chopper526 on October 27, 2014, 05:13:10 PM
Um.........no. :-\
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: sixball on October 27, 2014, 06:19:39 PM
I've only been married to mine since 1969 so I don't have it all figured out yet, but sometimes I can make her think she's happy. One thing I learned not to do: If she is your first wife don't EVER let her hear you refer to her as your first wife. :o
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: chopper526 on October 27, 2014, 07:17:18 PM
1969?!? I was 11! I can't imagine anyone putting up with me for 44 years.
It's funny, though, that you say that. I sometimes introduce my wife as my first wife.......she doesn't see the humor.
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: 62131 on October 27, 2014, 07:31:20 PM
This one is my second been married 30 years to this one I think she's a keeper ;) :) The first one had to go bad choice :( :-[
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: sixball on October 27, 2014, 11:38:28 PM
Yep, 1969. We got in a car wreck on our honeymoon and totaled her Porsche in Montana. It was a '60 Convertible D. We were there from early August to December. She turned 21 in the hospital. I went deer hunting. For some reason she doesn't smile when I suggest a second honeymoon either. There's some stuff that is just not funny to women. :-\  A keeper? You betcha'! ;D
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: chopper526 on October 28, 2014, 05:07:34 PM
That's a story to share with the grandkids, if you have any. I'll bet you wish you salvaged that Porsche......did you get a deer?
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: sixball on October 28, 2014, 05:38:05 PM
Two deer and an antelope but I had no way to get the Porsche home. It would not have been totaled today. but it would have needed a complete front end. A coup;e of years later we got a '62 Super 90 Coupe. It's in the yard with the rest of the junk. ;D I tease her about making a Baja bug out of it. ::)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-UkyYn1L644Q/SUPkMO1BfeI/AAAAAAAABZo/XuBFUebxFGg/s400/100_0667.JPG)
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: 62131 on October 28, 2014, 06:25:25 PM
I believe I'd put that inside somewhere, it looks like a good start of a nice restoration project.
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: chopper526 on October 28, 2014, 07:58:08 PM
Two deer and an antelope but I had no way to get the Porsche home. It would not have been totaled today. but it would have needed a complete front end. A coup;e of years later we got a '62 Super 90 Coupe. It's in the yard with the rest of the junk. ;D I tease her about making a Baja bug out of it. ::)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-UkyYn1L644Q/SUPkMO1BfeI/AAAAAAAABZo/XuBFUebxFGg/s400/100_0667.JPG)

    Sixball, you gotta get that baby inside. I think I saw an old "Chasing Classic Cars" where Wayne went to check out an old yellow Porche that an older friend of his had under a tarp. It was completely rusted out, what a shame.
    Those heads are mounted in your den as a constant reminder, right?
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: sixball on October 28, 2014, 08:35:08 PM
Yes, it needs to be inside, It is totally complete and has only surface rust. It needs to be taken completely apart but everything is available except the 25-20 grand to do it. :( 
  I have never had a head mounted. I have a pretty big stack of antlers but I had no room to bring the Montana horns home. My wife was in a body cast from her chest all the way to the toes on her right leg and to her knee on the left leg with a a pipe across her knees. We rented a big Ford station wagon and slid her in the back like a big pizza. We spent one night on the road in Twin Falls, Idaho. You should have seen the look on the old motel guys face when I asked if he could help me carry my wife into the room.  :o The next night my brother helped me carry my bride over the threshold. ;D  She shattered her femur. Now days she'd be up and around in a week or so. She spent from August 5th till December 2nd in traction and until the end of February in that cast. Then a year in a leg brace. It still bothers her. The honeymoon was over early.
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: chopper526 on October 28, 2014, 10:31:26 PM
OK, so I started laughing at the "everything is available except the 25-20 grand to do it". When i got to the part about sliding her in the back of the wagon like a big pizza, I lost it What a way to spend a honeymoon. No wonder she doesn't want a second.
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: sixball on October 28, 2014, 10:42:54 PM
We laugh about it all the time. I knew we were going to be OK when the doctor looked at the X-rays and told the nurse he could save her leg. There was a lot of bonding that first year or two. A strange coincidence, about a week or two later a couple from the same high school we went to, the guy from my class the girl from hers, on the opposite side of Yellowstone Park from where we were got in a wreck on their honey moon and she was killed. We were lucky and still are. :) Life is good! Some days are better than others.
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: chopper526 on October 28, 2014, 10:48:21 PM
Amen, Sixball. My dad used to say, every day I spend above ground is a good day. One day at a time and make every day count.
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: sixball on October 28, 2014, 11:06:41 PM
You got it. Now back to the original topic here. I'm still all for stock or very near with a "hot rod stover".
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Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: RCstang on October 30, 2014, 09:42:39 AM
You guys had some fun with the "too much information" about my wife.  Love the stories.  Who wrecks on their honeymoon?  wow.

Latest update -
Last week I helped him with his daily driver, fixing a brake line issue.  Yesterday I worked on freeing the 55 Hudson from the old broken down barn.  I think it will make it's first trip out of that barn in 20 years, today.  We are going to tow it to my house, clean it up and list it on ebay. 

I spoke with him about the 33 Chevy coupe yesterday.  He said that he would like to start the discussion at $3000 so I have room to negotiate him down.  From an ethical point of view, I think that price is fair.  From a monetary point of view, I'd like to get it cheaper.  (I have a daughter in college.)  Ultimately the price is anything is driven by what someone will pay for it.  There are still several things that I need to know about the condition of the car.  Will the driver's side running board need to be replaced?  How much of the wood framing needs to be replaced?  Where can I find someone to replace the wood with steel in or around Indianapolis?  What will it take for the engine to run?  What does the car's interior stored in his house look like? 

Thanks for listening to my story,
R

Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: EDNY on October 30, 2014, 12:09:12 PM
You guys had some fun with the "too much information" about my wife.  Love the stories.  Who wrecks on their honeymoon?  wow.

Latest update -
Last week I helped him with his daily driver, fixing a brake line issue.  Yesterday I worked on freeing the 55 Hudson from the old broken down barn.  I think it will make it's first trip out of that barn in 20 years, today.  We are going to tow it to my house, clean it up and list it on ebay. 

I spoke with him about the 33 Chevy coupe yesterday.  He said that he would like to start the discussion at $3000 so I have room to negotiate him down.  From an ethical point of view, I think that price is fair.  From a monetary point of view, I'd like to get it cheaper.  (I have a daughter in college.)  Ultimately the price is anything is driven by what someone will pay for it.  There are still several things that I need to know about the condition of the car.  Will the driver's side running board need to be replaced?  How much of the wood framing needs to be replaced?  Where can I find someone to replace the wood with steel in or around Indianapolis?  What will it take for the engine to run?  What does the car's interior stored in his house look like? 

Thanks for listening to my story,
R

For 3k...I'd take two of them! :'(  Seriously...If you don't want it..I do!

Ed
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: vette59jdwl on October 30, 2014, 03:04:57 PM
  If you are after a 33 chevy give glen a call he has many and lots of parts  upstate new york 315 658 2662 leave a message  he will get back to you sooner or later
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: TFoch on October 30, 2014, 06:06:41 PM
Ron,
As Ed said $3K is a fair price for the car.  I'm not sure what your skills are but if you have any questions as too how much work it is to replace the wood with metal PM me and I'll give you my number if you'd like to talk about it.  You can also check out my build thread in the Members Build section "33 Chevy Cabriolet".  Good luck and I hope you get the car!
Tom
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: FATnLOW on October 30, 2014, 07:40:56 PM
$3000  Seems to be a good price....I gave more than that for my 33 sedan...But beings I bought it with the intentions of street Rodding my 33, I was able to recover half my  purchase price by selling  all the parts that I was not going to use, I  Listed items on the Antique Chevy Forum and also on E-bay, you would be surprised what a person will give for original parts. I had a Lot of calls for various parts, and was able to get rid of all the  parts .Just  letting you know that  parts that you are not going to use are in demand by others  ......FATnLOW
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: RCstang on November 03, 2014, 07:37:59 PM
I know it's not a Chevy but I got the 55 Hudson out of the barn today...finally.  Washed it off, not too bad.


Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: themoose on November 03, 2014, 07:44:56 PM
Looks pretty good...What engine does it have?

Moose
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: chopper526 on November 03, 2014, 08:05:08 PM
It doesn't look too bad at all from those pictures. It's definitely different looking. Take the kids out to get ice cream in that.
How are negotiations on the '33 going?
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: 62131 on November 03, 2014, 08:09:06 PM
A little soap and water can really change the appearance of things.
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: RCstang on November 03, 2014, 08:13:37 PM
Twin H power

It's got a twisted hinge on the driver's side but it's a solid car.  I'm working on the other two cars first then I'll decide.  Today was all day working on getting this car out of the broken down barn, then having it towed to my house, then washing it.  Tomorrow I need to clean all the acorns out of the interior and clean it up.  Hopefully I can list it on Ebay tomorrow and move on to the 1950 Hudson. 

Trying to be patient, that usually works well when there's no competition.
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: EDNY on November 03, 2014, 08:30:30 PM
Twin H power

It's got a twisted hinge on the driver's side but it's a solid car.  I'm working on the other two cars first then I'll decide.  Today was all day working on getting this car out of the broken down barn, then having it towed to my house, then washing it.  Tomorrow I need to clean all the acorns out of the interior and clean it up.  Hopefully I can list it on Ebay tomorrow and move on to the 1950 Hudson. 

Trying to be patient, that usually works well when there's no competition.

Seriously..I'm ready with a trailer if you decide not to buy it.  :P
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: RCstang on November 04, 2014, 03:11:36 PM
Got car #1 listed
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Hollywood-1955-hudson-hornet-hollywood-barn-find-/171529347570?forcerrptr=true&hash=item27eff221f2&item=171529347570&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

Now on to #2
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: EDNY on November 04, 2014, 05:24:53 PM
Nice job describing and listing it...looks like a teasure for the right person!
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: 62131 on November 04, 2014, 06:28:49 PM
Glad to see you got it listed, I will be following auction to see how it does   Good luck
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: sixball on November 06, 2014, 12:25:01 PM
I stuck links to this on Inliners International and the HET sites. I hope it helps you get the Chevy to do well on the other cars. It looks like there is interest in the Hudson. It is cool! :)
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: chopper526 on November 06, 2014, 01:36:37 PM
I just checked the listing out on ebay, it's in my watchlist. Looks good. Good luck to you and Mr. G with the sale. Keep us posted on the '33.
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: RCstang on November 06, 2014, 08:20:00 PM
Over the summer I sold a 66 Fastback Mustang and was excited about receiving 1000 views with 80 watchers.  This auction already has 1700 views and 100 watchers.  Thank you for posting my auction on those sites sixball.   

It was raining here today so I didn't go out to Mr. G's house to work on the other Hudson.  Turns out that it isn't a 50, the title says 1951.  There are other interesting things in the barn, old tools, old sewing machine (black metal), old license plate, wagon wheels, etc.  So you might see all kinds of things listed on my ebay account.
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: 62131 on November 06, 2014, 09:09:42 PM
You finding any other car parts?
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: RCstang on November 07, 2014, 06:13:37 AM
I'll keep you guys informed if I find anything old chevy and give you first choice before ebay.

Yesterday since I couldn't go to his house to work I took the old rusty license plate I found and repainted it.  Not perfect but cool.
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: 62131 on November 07, 2014, 07:01:42 AM
I've got the auction on my watch list so that I  can keep up with it's progress hope you get more than your reserve, the restoration of the plate looks great, was it still on the car?
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: RCstang on November 07, 2014, 07:09:36 AM
The reserve is reasonable so hopefully it sells.

No, the plate wasn't on the 33.  This one was in the barn, just laying in a pile of stuff.  He said he had another one in the house.  After I find that, there might be a 1933 Indiana license plate for sale.
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: RCstang on November 07, 2014, 02:50:47 PM
More parts in the barn.

Right and left side of the hood, splash guard, rear window frame, side window frame.

Does the crank and the jack go with a 1933?
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: EDNY on November 07, 2014, 04:34:34 PM
Be sure that (your) the 5W coupe has all six window garnishings. I'd be interested in the extra ones and possibly the splash apron.

Ed
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: chopper526 on November 15, 2014, 06:02:04 PM
Got car #1 listed
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Hollywood-1955-hudson-hornet-hollywood-barn-find-/171529347570?forcerrptr=true&hash=item27eff221f2&item=171529347570&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

Now on to #2
RC, the Hudson didn't hit the reserve, what's Mr. G's plan?
How's the progress on the '33?
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: RCstang on November 15, 2014, 08:50:33 PM
The 1955 Hudson didn't sell but I had an offer of $3000.  After accepting that offer, he backed out.  I'm trying to contact people interested in this year Hudson to get a buyer at $3000.  If not I'll relist it on ebay with pictures of the clean underside.

The 1951 Hudson sold almost immediately to a local buyer.  From my limited understanding that car body style is highly desirable.

The scope of my work has increased, now I'm selling a 1977 F-250 extended cab too.  Maybe even a rusty 1948 Willie's Jeep.  Free labor is always popular.  About the 33....I told my wife tonight that I'm buying it.  Surprisingly she only offered limited resistance and even said she would donate items for me to sell.  So I've started selling all kinds of junk I don't want on Ebay to pay for it.  I want ever penny to come out of extra income. ($2330 to go)  Donations accepted. :)  I'm ready to get it in my garage and fully evaluate the condition.  Ray said he started it 7 years ago, changed the oil and added slick 50.  So maybe after all the fluids have been changed, it might start.
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: chopper526 on November 15, 2014, 09:34:57 PM
I guess congratulations are in order. Good for Mr. G (2 out of 3 ain't bad) and for you. Keep us posted on your progress with plenty of pictures.
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: 62131 on November 15, 2014, 10:53:59 PM
RC glad to hear you are going to end up with the 33 keep us posted on your progress
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: EDNY on July 17, 2015, 08:20:17 PM
I'll keep you guys informed if I find anything old chevy and give you first choice before ebay.

Yesterday since I couldn't go to his house to work I took the old rusty license plate I found and repainted it.  Not perfect but cool.

Guess we didn't get first choice:

Ebay link:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Other-/171856572674?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2803733102&item=171856572674

Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: themoose on July 17, 2015, 08:35:35 PM

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I'll keep you guys informed if I find anything old chevy and give you first choice before ebay.

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Guess we didn't get first choice:


Maybe he should run for political office ;)
Title: Re: Intro and questions
Post by: 62131 on July 18, 2015, 07:32:28 AM
To the gentlemen who suggested that I keep it original, I wouldn't consider that a "fuddy-duddy" response.  I think that's a legitimate option especially since it's never been hot rodded in it's 81 years of existence.  Hot rod or original these are beautiful cars.

This next part probably goes in the "tmi" (too much information) category.  My wife isn't thrilled about me looking at another old car.  Throughout our married life I've tinkered with old cars (chevy's and mustangs).  It's seems like she would be used to it by now.  A couple months ago I got rid of a 66 Fastback Mustang on ebay.  That did excite her!  The possibility that I would replace it is horrible.(in her mind)  So I'm trying to be creative and think of a way to get the car but not impose on her desire for a clean driveway.  I only have a two car garage.

I guess he couldn't convince his wife he should keep it ;)

He told me yesterday, while I was fixing the brakes in his daily driver, that he would rather I have the car than anyone else.  But I don't know if that affects the price.  Thanks again for the advice and listening to my story.
Ron
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