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Water in my oil
« on: January 03, 2017, 11:08:14 AM »
I have had a problem where I have noticed a coolant leak at the front passenger side of the intake manifold.  Did not seem too bad, but the  car has been sitting up since May as I have been doing an EFI, 4 link with coil overs, etc.  I cranked it this weekend and noticed white smoke from the exhaust on the passenger side, then a high pitched noise almost like a blower.  I shut it down after a second try and found coolant in the oil.  I suspect a failed intake gasket, but what is the noise?

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Re: Water in my oil
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2017, 12:42:19 PM »
That sucks. I hope it wll turn out OK.  hopefully it's  a tired alternator,
« Last Edit: January 03, 2017, 12:45:19 PM by ghost28 »

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Re: Water in my oil
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2017, 12:54:41 PM »
Munch it sure sounds like an intake gasket failer. As for the noise, I have dropped a tool I forgot about and it was rubbing on a pulley. It may be as simple as leaving a vac line unhooked/uncapped. Possibly coolant on belt(s). I wouldn't think you could knock out a lower end bearing that fast from coolant in the oil. Make sure you change the oil quick before firing back up as anti-freeze is bad for bearings. Good luck!

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Re: Water in my oil
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2017, 12:57:29 PM »
Munch it sure sounds like an intake gasket failer. As for the noise, I have dropped a tool I forgot about and it was rubbing on a pulley. It may be as simple as leaving a vac line unhooked/uncapped. Possibly coolant on belt(s).
Good point about the  belts.

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Re: Water in my oil
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2017, 01:58:14 PM »
I hope you are right guys, I don't think I have the knowledge for anything deeper.  I did drain the oil and water, and will start on the manifold gasket replacement Saturday.  I must admit the noise concerns me.

Oh well, this hobby is not for the faint of heart...


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Re: Water in my oil
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2017, 02:22:13 PM »
Just thinking out loud, but here is what was done while it was on the rack all those months.

New in tank Phantom fuel pump.

New braided fuel line and return.

Fitech EFI setup.

The first time I tried to start the car it would not start.  The tech at Fitech helped me clear a fault and then after a few tries it started.  But because the back of the  car was open above the rear end because I raised the coil over mounting bar,  the noise and white smoke overwhelmed me and I shut it down.

After building a cover over the raises coil over mount to damped the sound I tried it again.  This time I got smoke from the engine compartment where I had forgot about spilling oil on the head and  it made me shut it down.

After realizing what it was, I cranked it a third time and it shortly began the noise.  I tried a fourth time, got the noise and shut it down.

Any ideas that the noise could be created by some of the other work?

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Re: Water in my oil
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2017, 02:54:25 PM »
Munch, just throwing out some ideas here. A small leak on intake gasket with the engine setting for quite a time would produce the white smoke. Driving it regularly it burns out and you don't really notice it, no biggie.  With a tried and true motor, there shouldn't be any serious problems just changing what you did.
On the noise we might get a better idea if you could give a better discription such as how loud, pitch low/high, a whine, whistle or buzz. You might need a helper once the intake gasket is replaced to help locate the area of the noise. A new fuel pump can make a new noise that you may not be use to also. Last thought, did you make sure the base plate gasket matched both intake and throttle body?
That's all I have, hopefully this might give someone else more ideas.

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Re: Water in my oil
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2017, 03:05:51 PM »
Munch..did you replace any pulleys???    Water pump or crank  pulleys?

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Re: Water in my oil
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2017, 03:11:06 PM »
Munch..did you replace any pulleys???    Water pump or crank  pulleys?
  No sir.

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Re: Water in my oil
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2017, 03:15:42 PM »
Munch, just throwing out some ideas here. A small leak on intake gasket with the engine setting for quite a time would produce the white smoke. Driving it regularly it burns out and you don't really notice it, no biggie.  With a tried and true motor, there shouldn't be any serious problems just changing what you did.
On the noise we might get a better idea if you could give a better discription such as how loud, pitch low/high, a whine, whistle or buzz. You might need a helper once the intake gasket is replaced to help locate the area of the noise. A new fuel pump can make a new noise that you may not be use to also. Last thought, did you make sure the base plate gasket matched both intake and throttle body?
That's all I have, hopefully this might give someone else more ideas.
  The Fitech EFI came with two base plate gaskets and I think I used the right one.  The following is from the instructions:

The Fitech Go EFI System will bolt directly to any 4-BBL
intake manifold. To fit on a spread bore 4-BBL manifold
will require an inexpensive adapater plate to avoid leaks.
Note that the FiTech throttle body will bolt directly to a
spread bore 4-BBL manifold but may leak without the
adapter plate. Suitable adapter plates are available from
several suppliers such as Summit Racing (SUM-G1420).

It did leak a little on the passenger sided but I tighten it down and it appeared to stop.

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Re: Water in my oil
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2017, 05:15:11 PM »
Water in the oil is a concern, more of a hassle than creating a severe  problem. Thinking about this a little more, I helped a buddy of mine put an Atomic EFI on his car. When we started it for the first time it had a high pitch sound, and it was the butterfly's  needed to be adjusted. It sounded like what your explaining it was a strange sound we also shut the engine down and checked everything again  I believe this is what your hearing just adjust the throttle plates. Hope this helps.
« Last Edit: January 03, 2017, 07:34:15 PM by 62131 »

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Re: Water in my oil
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2017, 07:21:00 PM »
Water in the oil is a concern, more of a hassle than creating a severe  problem. Thinking about this a little more, I helped a buddy of mine put an Atomic EFI on his car. When we started it for the first time it had a high pitch sound, and it was the A/F ratio needed adjusted, as he made the adjustments you could hear the sound change. It sounded like a jet engine, I think this is what your hearing.
  I was just in the shop looking at the Fitech unit and there is a crack in the body which run down into one of the four ports.  I will send a pic when I can.

I haven't dropped the unit, but I don't know if they will believe that.  Can't afford another one right now. 

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Re: Water in my oil
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2017, 10:14:54 PM »
If they don't want to help you be sure to tell them your friends on multiple websites are following your installation of their product and are interested in the quality of their customer support.  :)
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Re: Water in my oil
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2017, 03:19:48 PM »
Water in the oil is a concern, more of a hassle than creating a severe  problem. Thinking about this a little more, I helped a buddy of mine put an Atomic EFI on his car. When we started it for the first time it had a high pitch sound, and it was the A/F ratio needed adjusted, as he made the adjustments you could hear the sound change. It sounded like a jet engine, I think this is what your hearing.
  I was just in the shop looking at the Fitech unit and there is a crack in the body which run down into one of the four ports.  I will send a pic when I can.

I haven't dropped the unit, but I don't know if they will believe that.  Can't afford another one right now.

If you had dropped the unit , it would clearly show where on the unit that the blow occurred.
Question is why did the unit crack .Get your magnifying glass out and do a thorough inspection to see if you can determine the reason why.

makes sense , doesn't it , before you try sending the unit back .  ???

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Re: Water in my oil
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2017, 07:14:23 PM »
If they don't want to help you be sure to tell them your friends on multiple websites are following your installation of their product and are interested in the quality of their customer support.  :)


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