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Title: Patina anyone?
Post by: EDNY on April 05, 2014, 12:41:12 PM
Been thinking - really like the art of "patina" and considering doing it to my 33. 

Anyone have any articles related to creating patina?  Thinking about a brown base with a flat or semi gloss light color on top like white, blue, green etc then scrubbing down to the brown.  Also considering faux signage on the doors to scrub down to.

Ed
Title: Re: Patina anyone?
Post by: trbomax on April 05, 2014, 05:52:30 PM
  You could shoot the whole car with red oxide primer.Then use a plastic bag dipped in the accent color(s),blot it on another surface untill you get the texture you like,then work on the car with it.
 My wife did a desk that way 40 yrs ago,it still looks good and is in her shop.
Title: Re: Patina anyone?
Post by: sixball on April 05, 2014, 06:59:41 PM
Fix it up nice and pretty and drive the piss out of. Patina happens when something is used and ages that other stuff is like a young pretty woman getting surgery to make her old and ugly. Be patient.
Title: Re: Patina anyone?
Post by: trbomax on April 05, 2014, 07:05:24 PM
Fix it up nice and pretty and drive the piss out of. Patina happens when something is used and ages that other stuff is like a young pretty woman getting surgery to make her old and ugly. Be patient.

I agree wth this.Dont refinish when you build it either. I was going to completely refinish my 28 but have since decided that the lacquer I layed on it 50 yrs ago will be just fine , thats the "patina". On the other hand,its your car,do what ever makes YOU happy!
Title: Re: Patina anyone?
Post by: themoose on April 05, 2014, 07:07:57 PM
Ed....Forgive me but I'm not into patina. Worked too hard on the rest of the car to want to make it look like I just hauled it out of the barn and popped in a battery and some gas. I like the shiny stuff... I'm with sixball.

Moose
Title: Re: Patina anyone?
Post by: ghost28 on April 05, 2014, 08:43:13 PM
I like the patiina look even on a newer build if it's done right. I have seen it done with a brown or grey base and then lay on a thin coat of black. After it cures with a light paper sand down the top coat so it starts to break through to the base coat in certain areas. once you are happy shoot some clear over it. I can look pretty good.
Title: Re: Patina anyone?
Post by: cocobolo on April 05, 2014, 10:21:29 PM
Ed, it seems that patina is losing out to new, although that wasn't your question.

There have been articles on DIY patina over the past few years...but with my less than spectacular memory I cannot remember which mags they were in.  I do know that a couple of the guys on the Canadian Rodder site have added patina to their cars, but the problem I have with them is that they look like exactly what they are.  Old cars with a new build and artificial patina.  Somehow it just doesn't come across right.

So my vote will go with the nice shiny finish.  I have to agree with the moose.  A whole lot of work to build it as perfectly as one can, and then try to make it look ancient with some fakery falls a bit short.

But, as always, it's whatever turns your crank.  :)
Title: Re: Patina anyone?
Post by: 3WBill on April 06, 2014, 05:18:18 AM
 Good luck with the patina trial.  A few of the guys want me to leave  the rust and bullet holes in my coupe but it aint happening. Drove rust buckets and clunkers  most  of my life , the wife always got the "nice " car so I want my ride to be as pretty as I can make her.
3WBill
Title: Re: Patina anyone?
Post by: EDNY on April 06, 2014, 07:06:44 AM
You guys talked me into it ;D ;D  I already have a shinny 34 Chevy 3 window coupe...want something different for the 33.  Really not looking for bullet holes or rust...just one that looks it just came out of the barn "solid" with no rust but worn out paint with some wear through spots - if that makes sense.
Title: Re: Patina anyone?
Post by: logride on April 06, 2014, 08:00:52 AM
I like the idea I bought this car off the am tradeo show. Raccoons were living in it.

I will never paint it.
Title: Re: Patina anyone?
Post by: TFoch on April 06, 2014, 08:33:41 AM
I don't really have an opinion one way or another.  I did have bullet holes in mine but chose to fix them.  I want mine to be nice and shiny some day.  I have seen some shop trucks done with patina that looked good.  If it's something you like go for it.  Keep us up to date.
Tom
Title: Re: Patina anyone?
Post by: cocobolo on April 06, 2014, 09:46:55 AM
You guys talked me into it ;D ;D  I already have a shinny 34 Chevy 3 window coupe...want something different for the 33.  Really not looking for bullet holes or rust...just one that looks it just came out of the barn "solid" with no rust but worn out paint with some wear through spots - if that makes sense.
That definitely makes sense to me.  My '35 is exactly as you describe.  50+ years in a barn, most of the paint is intact and some of it would probably even polish up nicely.  No bullet holes, unless you count the gas tank which looks exactly like it has been hit with a shotgun blast.  And for all we know, it may have been.
Title: Re: Patina anyone?
Post by: sixball on April 06, 2014, 01:36:52 PM
One of the best things about this site is that we don't have one narrow set of rules that every thing has to fit into. In fact most of what I see here is not what I would do but that is not to say it isn't great stuff. What would I learn from someone who does everything like I do? There just are not enough solid barn finds to go around so if that's what you want you'll probably have to build one. 8)
Title: Re: Patina anyone?
Post by: EDNY on April 06, 2014, 02:13:09 PM
One of the best things about this site is that we don't have one narrow set of rules that every thing has to fit into. In fact most of what I see here is not what I would do but that is not to say it isn't great stuff. What would I learn from someone who does everything like I do? There just are not enough solid barn finds to go around so if that's what you want you'll probably have to build one. 8)

Heck..I just don't want to get banned from the forum! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Patina anyone?
Post by: sixball on April 06, 2014, 03:17:46 PM
Now if you sand all the way through a fiberglass body to make it look rusted out I'm coming after you, and you know how much pull I have around here. ;)
Title: Re: Patina anyone?
Post by: logride on April 06, 2014, 06:18:44 PM
Ed, that's funny.
One of the best things about this site is that we don't have one narrow set of rules that every thing has to fit into. In fact most of what I see here is not what I would do but that is not to say it isn't great stuff. What would I learn from someone who does everything like I do? There just are not enough solid barn finds to go around so if that's what you want you'll probably have to build one. 8)

Heck..I just don't want to get banned from the forum! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Patina anyone?
Post by: sammons on April 06, 2014, 06:47:50 PM
Now if you sand all the way through a fiberglass body to make it look rusted out I'm coming after you, and you know how much pull I have around here. ;)

Now that's some funny s..t!!
Title: Re: Patina anyone?
Post by: cocobolo on April 06, 2014, 07:20:08 PM
One of the best things about this site is that we don't have one narrow set of rules that every thing has to fit into. In fact most of what I see here is not what I would do but that is not to say it isn't great stuff. What would I learn from someone who does everything like I do? There just are not enough solid barn finds to go around so if that's what you want you'll probably have to build one. 8)

Heck..I just don't want to get banned from the forum! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Now that is just downright hilarious!  :)
Title: Re: Patina anyone?
Post by: Kiwijeff on April 07, 2014, 12:19:57 AM
I can post some pics later of my 1/8 scale patina painted rods, but for a real car, i always felt it should be earned. That said, i hear what your saying about having a nice car, and wanting something diffrent. What about taking it back to bare metal, then throw some lite acid over it, so it speeds up the Feric Oxide process, (rust), or spray lots of patchy diffrent color over it, then cover with matt black, and sand through :)
Title: Re: Patina anyone?
Post by: Kiwijeff on April 07, 2014, 01:41:56 AM
The crank blown T bucket featured in Amusin Krusin, number three. The Jaguar six powered thirty two is unfinished, and this bodywork has lots more dents, and rust holes, compared to the T. That was more paint and rust. Alot easier to do on a smaller scale.
Title: Re: Patina anyone?
Post by: Kiwijeff on April 07, 2014, 01:46:31 AM
Heres the whole cars.
Title: Re: Patina anyone?
Post by: EDNY on April 07, 2014, 12:31:06 PM
Here's a HAMB link with some patina shots...hey Sixball...there is a Corvette with patina!

Link:

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=859409

Ed
Title: Re: Patina anyone?
Post by: sixball on April 07, 2014, 06:55:31 PM
Nice pictures. I'm in love with Bombshell Betty. She is a screamer at Bonneville. I don't know how thay manage bare metal on the salt. There was a lot more newtina than pootina. ::) ;D
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