Rusty Bowtie
General Category => General Discussion - Intros => Topic started by: Kiwijeff on January 08, 2014, 02:04:02 AM
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They didnt make these at the factory, but i reckon they should have. Recently, i purchased a 34 Chev Standard, or Junior, as they were called down my neck of the woods. It was rough, and a lot of people would have passed it up. I figured it may look ok as a RPU, so i grabbed it. After presure washing it, over two days, and letting it dry out 4 another two days, i pushed it into my small shed. A few weeks of going over it, saw me getting out the cutting wheel. Heres the result.
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The Australians have them, and i suspect the came to Aussy as Knockdowns. These are chassis, running gear, and cowl, that were sent to the Colonies. Brand didnt matter in the late 20s, early 30s, and the missing bodies were built by local coach builders. The Australian versions look like they used a Roadster cowl, and windscreen. The back panel was squared off, and dont look very pretty. The doors were shorter as well, both ways. Heres a couple of pics from my thread over on the Hamb. These are Aussy versions, and i think the cream and red one is very cool.
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Jeff,
Cool project! Welcome to the forum. I think you'll like it here. Looking forward to watching the progress of the 34 RPU.
Tom
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Great having you on the forum. I have a buddy that lives in Montreal, PQ, Canada - his family immigrated from New Zealand to Canada. The entire family are "motorheads". They have many pictures of 30's & 40's Chevys they owned in NZ.
Ed
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Jeff
First...Welcome aboard and second I agree that you have defiantly embarked on a great project. Will you use the stock engine of something else?
Moose
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Thanks for the welcome, guys. Tom, it was good timing, i needed to find a good Chevy forum. ED, Chevs were popular here, but our wet climate means a lot didnt survive real well. Mine must have been shed stored for most of its life, the put under a tree for a few years, with the right side taking the brunt of the weather. Moose, id like to run a small block Chev, but no concrete plans yet. The old Stovebolt seems to have some movement in it, and i just turned the car around yesterday, so i can start messing with it.
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Figured id tell you all a little about my car life, or OCD, (old car disease). I started at age ten, and quickly decided i was a Chevy guy. 55s and 57s were it for me, back as a teenager. After a short while, i discovered other brands were cool too, and became a hot rod obsessed teenager. It didnt help, that the local hot rod club rented a large shed, over my back fence. As a yong man, i started buying Holdens, an Australian GM product that was as close to a real Chevy as i could afford. My first V8 was a Holden. My first Chev came in my mid 20s, a 48 truck. Ive always regretted selling that truck. By my 30s, my career, women, and other distractions took me away from playing with cars, and the 80s billet and pastel paint, killed my love of hot rods. I still drove cool cars, mostly Holdens, and i had a 77 Holden Premier for ten years. At the start of 2000, i found old school hot rods had made a comeback, so i threw myself back into it, and joined the Hamb in 09.
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Great to see those old right hand drive (RHD) Chevy's....do you have the VIN prefix (not actual VIN)? Kinda curious - I remember seeing a post that the RHD Chevy's were built in NY (near NYC) because the export shipping ports would be closer.
Would be neat to build a RHD hotrod for over here...those RHD Mustang II racks are around $1000!
Ed
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I brotht my first real old car in 2010, a rough Model A Truck, and proceded to tear into it. My skills were sharpened over the next year, and as i have many friends in car type employment, id had years of watching them at work, so knew what to do. I just needed to practise what id seen watching my friends doing for years. After a year of working on that old Ford, i decided to sell it, and buy a going car, as i wasn't getting any younger, and i wanted to be driving an old car, instead of working on them. I found a 1929 Hudson, that had been built over a 6 year period. It was ugly, but in my price range, and had a great stance. It just was ugly, but after years of building scale model hot rods, i knew i could make it cool. Spent 5 months transforming it, and had it back on the road, by Christmas, 2012. Its my daily driver, rain, hail, or shine. I then brought a 28 Hudson, as a project. I was missing working on old cars, so i tore into it. Im still messing around with it, but its missing a lot of parts.
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Ed, where do i find the Vin? I thought a lot of the early 30s cars were shipped from Canada, so thanks for the info. Great to know.
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So fast forward to November 2013, and a nieghbour buys a rough 34 Chev. Hes doing up a 61 Caddy, and decided he didnt want the Chevy. I told him id like to cut it up, and not long after, it was in my shed, getting cut. I didnt know if my vision would work, but im more than happy with how its progressing.
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Ed, where do i find the Vin? I thought a lot of the early 30s cars were shipped from Canada, so thanks for the info. Great to know.
Here is one link:
http://www.stovebolt.com/techtips/VIN.htm
The cars were produced in Tarrytown, NY.. Factory Code "2". The car number plate on the 33 Chevys were on the floor - passenger side - near seat, made of zinc really hard to find one that has survived.
Still looking for the exact reference site, but recall reading that the RHD Chevy's were made in Tarrytown, NY for export across the Atlantic.
Ed
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Im always real interested to learn as much as i can about any car in my stable. Unfortanatly, i cant check the link right now, as i mostly post from my cheap phone, and whenever i go to links, it shuts my phone down. The aftermarket front end you mentioned would be a nice addition, and give a great ride. Ive not yet decided what to do about the running gear. Thats half the reason im here, to learn what my best options are.
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Jeff,
You'll have to post some pics of your Hudson daily driver. Would love to see a before and after pic.
Tom
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It's good to have ya over here. I have been following your build for awhile now.
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Tom, i'll snap some pics as soon as the sun comes out, for longer than ten minutes. Ghost, thanls, i got your reply, to Hamb PM, and havn't had a chance to reply back. I've had a busy few days.
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Tom, i will post some pics in the other rides thread. Ghost, im hopping to pull the front apart in the next few weeks, so there'll be lots of new pics.
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I did a little cleaning today. Hope to pull front panel work off this week.
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Jeff, cleaning up nice.
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Thanks Tom. Did other side of firewall today. Didnt get as much time as i wanted. I spent a few hours on my folks roof, with rust converter, getting ready for paint. Better go buy some of that stuff for the Chevy :D
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The front end is still very much together. I usally work quickly, but other commitments are slowing me up. I did get the engiue hoist on loan, but apart from that, its just not happening. Hope to show some real progress soon.
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The right side fender is off, but the clamp that holds spare tire, has been slowing me down.
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Today i shifted the 34. Had to dismantle my 28 Hudson so that i had more room.
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With the 34 in its new space, its been getting some attention. Last week, my stock car racing nieghbour and myself attempted to get the engine to fire. The starter wouldnt turn it over, so i whipped it out to check it. It seems fine, so i will put it back in, and try again. I now have the front off, and separated the radiator from grille shell.
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A few more pics. The black parts are me playn around with Blackguard. Im testing diffrent rust kill products, to learn their diffrentses.
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Jeff,
That radiator still looks in good shape. Did you get the starter to turn over? Keep moving forward on it!
Tom
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Jeff....This is a great thread . I am really enjoying following your progress! Keep um coming.
Moose
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Thanks guys. Tom, the radiator is proberbly the nicest part on the whole car. If i get the engine to fire, i will make a video of it running before i pull it out.
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Today i pulled the front seat out. Found this ol tag...
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Today i pulled the front seat out. Found this ol tag...
Interesting....there is the StoveBolt VIN decoder link at the bottom of the page.
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What does the X stand for? Export? I was lucky to get the tag with my '26 roadster body and was happy to find it was built in Oakland, CA where I lived for several years. I'll take it back there someday after I get the machine gun mounted. ::)
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Today i pulled the front seat out. Found this ol tag...
Yes, that's the VIN tag that sits to the right hand side of the passenger seat. From that you can tell which plant the car was built at along with a very close guess at the actual date of assembly.
Enjoying the thread and pics very much so far...thank you Jeff.
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Thanks guys, glad you are all enjoyn the thread. Maybe the X dose stand for export? I looked at the decoder, and will try and figure it out. With cars being right hook down here, the tag was on the drivers side. I didnt realise what it was till id pulled it off. It was black, so i cleaned it a little. Hopefully, it will tell me something cool.
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The guys on Chevy Talk can explain what all those numbers mean. But, as usual, I cannot find the thread which explains it all. If I dig it up I'll attach a link.
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Swear words, Glass! Is that a swear word, lol. Anyone here using fiberglass panels? This morning, i rung a place in the city that sold glass 30s Chevy stuff. Guy told me he dosent import the panels now, due to the high cost. I was thinkn i may go the glass route for my fenders.
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Nice find with the tag. I hope you can decipher it and learn a little about the car. I intend to have all steel panels on my car but couldn't find a reasonably priced gas tank apron so I bought a fiberglass one. It'll get me by for now until I can fix the banged up steel one I have. It's all about what you can afford.
Tom
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The idea of using them untill i found good steel ones, works for me Tom. I rung Roy before, and told him he could have my steel rear fenders, if he can find me some glass ones to swap. His 34 Sedan Delivery has had a lot of money poured into it, and he wants steel fenders. Hes keen, and coming over tomorrow. I'll show him my fenders, and if hes still keen, we're both winning.
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Jeff...one thing with the 'glass fenders...they don't rust! And for the most part I think they weigh about the same as their metal counterpart.
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Swear words, Glass! Is that a swear word, lol. Anyone here using fiberglass panels? This morning, i rung a place in the city that sold glass 30s Chevy stuff. Guy told me he dosent import the panels now, due to the high cost. I was thinkn i may go the glass route for my fenders.
My whole damn car is 'glass!She's been sittin in my pole barn for over 50 yrs now,not a rust spot on her!Well,except for the hardware!
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Jeff, more questions and no definitive answers regarding your VIN tag, just some guesses.
Did you find a body tag on the firewall? Chevy had one VIN tag for the chassis, which is the one you show in your pic, and another for the body up at the top of the firewall.
Your guess as to the X meaning export is as good as any, although I have no confirmation of that. The EC says it was a standard chassis for a sedan. The H suggests an August production date. The 21210 is to do with the actual chassis number which started with 1,001. So yours could be the 20,210th chassis produced that year.
However, the first "2" could indicate the plant in New York, which would mean that your chassis could be number 210. Now, given that we think it was built in August, that is highly unlikely. So, if you have a tag on the firewall, that will help sort things out. I think the body tag gives a better indication of where the body was constructed. Is there a "Body by Fisher" tag anywhere? Possibly on the bottom side of the cowl area? That wouldn't have any numbers, it just says Body by Fisher.
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My whole damn car is 'glass!She's been sittin in my pole barn for over 50 yrs now,not a rust spot on her!Well,except for the hardware!
wow, thats cool.
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Coco, thanks yery much. Great stuff. Theres no tag on firewall, but the Fisher tag is there. I will get a pic. Roy knows where theres some glass rear fenders. My steel ones are worse than his, but due to needing widening, he may still want mine. He also showed me that my body had two creases in it, meaning that the old Chevys bean in a good smash, and then we found the chassis bent. Bummer. I presure washed the front of the car this morning. Heres a pic of the door open, to dry it out :D
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Who would think your'd need these tools, when workin on ya early Chevy :D
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After T, i pulled off the second rear fender. The left side has EX painted inside the fender. (see pic) the chassis is not only bent, its twisted too.
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Can anyone tell me if these body mount pads are original from this pic thanks?
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I wouldnt worry much about the frame. Put a few anchors in the floor to pull against and invest in a used or HF porta power.Think about what you are doing when you rig it and start to pull.Always over pull slightly. There isnt much you cant straighten on those old soft frames useing that method.
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Maybe a chainsaw would be quicker!
As far as the mounting pads...I'll be getting to the body removal stage as soon as I get the doors properly lined up, so I can get pics for you then. They look like they might be original.
And as for straightening things, if you don't have access to a porta power you can always use things like a 4 foot Jackall, a come along, any hydraulic cylinder and so on.
I see your frame has the X member, which was supposed to strengthen the frame considerably. While I haven't measured the thickness of the steel in my frame yet, I'm told it is 3/16" thick. If you box that, it gets far stiffer and stronger without a huge penalty in weight.
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I have a panel beater mate in town who has a chassis table, so i'll take it over to him. Im going to strip the whole car over the next week, time permitting.
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I have a panel beater mate in town who has a chassis table, so i'll take it over to him. Im going to strip the whole car over the next week, time permitting.
Good plan for the frame straightening. I believe those pads are original, but in some areas there was a piece of wood along with them....John
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I have a panel beater mate in town who has a chassis table, so i'll take it over to him. Im going to strip the whole car over the next week, time permitting.
Glad you'll be able to save it. Good to have friends that can help you.
Tom
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Ha, when i went to see the guy with the table, i find hes left his wife for another woman, and sold his panel shop. I will have to talk to new owner, and see if i can get the same deal.
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Jeff, a couple of things.
Sounds like you need to keep up with your chums' private lives a bit better! I'm sure the new owner will be happy to take a whack at your frame.
And is that an "X" member I see in your frame? Sure does look like it. Because if so, then you have a '35 Chevy, not a '34. The '34 frames had five crossmembers, and 1935 was the first year they went to the big "X" member.
You can get all the information about the frame from the GM archives on all the old Chevy's.
This one is for the 1935.
http://www.gmheritagecenter.com/docs/gm-heritage-archive/vehicle-information-kits/Chevrolet/1935-Chevrolet.pdf
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Somebody told me that 34s had an X member, and 35s had a K member, or maybe i got it back to front? I think it was in my Hamb thread. Thanks Coco, i will see if my cheap phone will let me see the link :)
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The '35 most definitely has an X member. It was the first year they did that.
What you refer to as a K member is probably the straight crossmembers which have a small brace at each end, which look something like a K. Chevrolet refers to them as just 5 crossmembers.
That link is best referred to on your computer, as it gives nearly 100 pages of information, of which the frame is only a small part. They also provide comparisons between 1935 and 1934 so you can easily identify changes by the year.
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Thanks, i dont have a computer, but have friends who let me use theirs, so i will have a look when i can. So i now own a 35 Chevy. :)
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Engines out. Body almost ready to pull.
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Thanks, i don't have a computer, but have friends who let me use theirs, so i will have a look when i can. So i now own a 35 Chevy. :)
Well, I think so. So just as soon as you can post a pic showing the frame, I can definitely identify it for you.
I can probably try and get a shot or two of my frame from below, although I don't have much to lift it with yet. But it ought to be more than enough to compare the two frames. Night time here right now, but perhaps tomorrow I will see what I can do.
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Chassis pics :)
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Well Jeff, the "X" member that Chevrolet has on page 3 of their 1935 manual looks just exactly like yours. Definitely not a '34 in your garage there after all. :)
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Thanks again, Coco, i been workn on getting the body off today. All good to go, just need a couple of guys to help lift it of now. Had my engineer buddy around this morning to look at it, so he can get an idea of what needs doing, for a steel subframe. Heres a pic of the engine number.
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Well when your done with it you can call it any year that you like. None the less a cool project. My son/n/law and I built a 38 dodge truck turned roadster with a little 56 chrysler back half thrown in, a 38 ford frame , and a 51 buick dash just for grins. and the damn thing goes high tens through the quarter mile. What fun this hobby is.
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Well when your done with it you can call it any year that you like. None the less a cool project. My son/n/law and I built a 38 dodge truck turned roadster with a little 56 chrysler back half thrown in, a 38 ford frame , and a 51 buick dash just for grins. and the damn thing goes high tens through the quarter mile. What fun this hobby is.
Even more fun to take a trip out to Denver and get a ride in it like I did! Had a smile from ear to ear :)
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Thanks again, Coco, i been workn on getting the body off today. All good to go, just need a couple of guys to help lift it of now. Had my engineer buddy around this morning to look at it, so he can get an idea of what needs doing, for a steel subframe. Heres a pic of the engine number.
Jeff, I think that is the casting number.
The engine number is stamped on a pad on the right side of the engine just to the rear of the fuel pump.
It should read something above M 4864097, which was the start number that year.
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Ghost, i know the car, watched it on the other channel, im a fan, and Tom, do it. I would if i ever was up that way. Coco, thanks. Monday morning here. I hope to get some Chevy time today, but i have my parents house roof to finish painting, visit my uncle, whos restoring my old wooden canoe, and household jobs. Its going to be a busy day :)
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Ghost, i know the car, watched it on the other channel, im a fan, and Tom, do it. I would if i ever was up that way. Coco, thanks. Monday morning here. I hope to get some Chevy time today, but i have my parents house roof to finish painting, visit my uncle, whos restoring my old wooden canoe, and household jobs. Its going to be a busy day :)
So what will you be doing after lunch then? :)
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Ghost, i know the car, watched it on the other channel, im a fan, and Tom, do it. I would if i ever was up that way. Coco, thanks. Monday morning here. I hope to get some Chevy time today, but i have my parents house roof to finish painting, visit my uncle, whos restoring my old wooden canoe, and household jobs. Its going to be a busy day :)
So what will you be doing after lunch then? :)
Its just gone three in the afternoon. Things dont move to fast round my neck of the woods. :) Ive done two hours on the roof, after a visit to the autowreakers, supermarket, and just had a three hour lunch with an old girlfriend :D Now i waiting for my flatmates to arrive home, (im a caregiver to a four year old, my flatmates daughter) and i'll sqend the next hour and a...
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(ran outa room :) ) half preping the evening meal, and hanging out with the worlds coolest four year out, whos just walked in with green paint, all over her face. I will get to my uncles after that. Its a nice sunny Autum day here, and i will also post up the engine number. Just another quite day in paradise :)
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I snapped a pic of what i think is the engine number, but dont think its very clear. Number is M R 5 I I 9 0 5 5.
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That's it, matches correctly for a 1935. Welcome to my favourite year Chevy! :)
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Cheers Coco. Now we have everything correct, i thought id share a pic of what was gassing up, the same time as i was this morning. Aaron, one of my old custmers is heading to The Beach Hop, in the North Island. Not even sure what type of car this is. Cant provide a link, but if you google Beach Hop, New Zealand, you can check out one of our largest car events, happening right now.
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My buddy, Mo came around yesterday, hes found me a front end (which i dont need) a set of diff gears, that i need, as the car came with none, hence why the back wheel may look like its on an angle in some pics, a spare engine, and a spare wire wheel. He got all this for two boxes of beer. Cant wait to see if the stuff is the correct year. I mentioned my 80 year old uncle was rebuilding the canoe, that my Dad had built for me as a kid. Im blown away at the job hes doing, only about 20% of original boat left. It got me thinking that if he was in better health, i could have got him to redo the Chevys woodwork, rather than steel it out. Heres a pic of my Uncle Rob, with my canoe.
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My buddy, Mo came around yesterday, hes found me a front end (which i dont need) a set of diff gears, that i need, as the car came with none, hence why the back wheel may look like its on an angle in some pics, a spare engine, and a spare wire wheel. He got all this for two boxes of beer. Cant wait to see if the stuff is the correct year. I mentioned my 80 year old uncle was rebuilding the canoe, that my Dad had built for me as a kid. Im blown away at the job hes doing, only about 20% of original boat left. It got me thinking that if he was in better health, i could have got him to redo the Chevys woodwork, rather than steel it out. Heres a pic of my Uncle Rob, with my canoe.
This is really cool!
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Thanks Trbomax, ive had some fun today with the 35. I will let the pics do the talking :)
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If he can rebuild a canoe he can fix any wood problems you have in the 35 :)
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If he can rebuild a canoe he can fix any wood problems you have in the 35 :)
It would be great to do that Tom, but his health isnt to good, and i didnt expect him to be well enough to get the canoe done. I think steel would be more of a safer option with our cert laws as well. Heres what ive been doing. Did this just for fun, as i wont use this engine.
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Looks good Jeff. Nice looking display if you don't sell it.
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Looks good Jeff. Nice looking display if you don't sell it.
Or use it for garden art :) Theres als6 a chance i may make a cradle, and have it so i can fire it up for fun. Heres some pics of the 37 truck stuff that Mo got for me. The diff is in great condition.
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There were 3 solid truck rims, and 1 wire wheel.
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Ha I'm back, and ready to get into the Chev over Summer.
Haven't really done anything over Winter, been so busy with other stuff, and having a daily driver hot rod means ive neglected the 35.
Heres a quick pic of how its looking today.
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Great to see those old right hand drive (RHD) Chevy's....do you have the VIN prefix (not actual VIN)? Kinda curious - I remember seeing a post that the RHD Chevy's were built in NY (near NYC) because the export shipping ports would be closer.
Would be neat to build a RHD hotrod for over here...those RHD Mustang II racks are around $1000!
Ed
The C K D, complete knock downs were shipped from Canada and built in Oshawa Ontario, was a complete rolling chassis with fenders, bumpers.........just no body. The bodies in Australia were built by HOLDEN body company. Canada was the supplier due to lesser taxes as members of the Commonwealth, which also included new Zealand.
later in this thread is his picture of the frame, its clearly a 1935 only with the X-member. The 1933---1935 roadster pickup body was made only by HOLDEN and common to Australia.
I like them very trick
USA built cars exported to Europe and south America were built in TARRYTOWN NY and shipped from there. My 35 chev roadster was shipped from there to Bueno Aries Argentina and assembled on the plant there.
If the car was built in usa would have a tag on the floor just ahead of the seat, if built in Canada would have the fisher body aluminum firewall tag.
mike lynch............. 8)
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Mike is there any way to tell what the body job no is,also the body serial number is, if you had a tag with the serial no. the engine no. the trim no. and the paint no.. On the tag without a body serial no.and without the job no.
Is there information out there on Canadian built 1932 cars especially roadsters in my case thanks
I have a tag alluminum was on the firewall Model CONF. 146 serial no 581403 Body serial no. blank engine no. 2332507 Body Job no. blank Trim no 58 paint no. 1080 thanks vette59jdwl
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Thanks Mark.
Page 11 of that report mentions a building occupied by
Feemster Chevrolet.
Guess I now know an address for the dealership.
Thanks
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sorry wayner, I only have been able to obtain info on 33--35 Canadian built Chevrolets.
An aluminum firewall plate from fisher body tells you that its a CONF = CONFEDERATE Chevrolet model series for 1932.
Because roadsters and touring bodies were supplied to chevolet by an outside supplier, they should not carry a fisher body tag. Cabriolets were made by fisher and chevrolet so should have a firewall tag.
A 1933 Chevrolet master series roadster also has that same # 146 as the model for the roadster, so thinking the same was also used in 1932.
The machine that made those body tags is still at GM Oshawa and used to be in my friends office.
mike 8)
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Mike is there any way to tell what the body job no is,also the body serial number is, if you had a tag with the serial no. the engine no. the trim no. and the paint no.. On the tag without a body serial no.and without the job no.
Is there information out there on Canadian built 1932 cars especially roadsters in my case thanks
I have a tag alluminum was on the firewall Model CONF. 146 serial no 581403 Body serial no. blank engine no. 2332507 Body Job no. blank Trim no 58 paint no. 1080 thanks vette59jdwl
okay your car has the tag, USA built cars had the tag on the floor in front of passenger seat. Too bad your missing the body serial number or job number, it should have been on there. Lots of people trying to find original literature to identify paint colour #1080 and others. Same with upholstery. But only way you can find that info is to find an original dealer showroom album that has paint chips and upholstery trim swatches.
Probably the info might be in those 1932 Canadian versions of Chevrolet service news back then. I know its in the 1934 issues, but I do not have them a friend does and is so worried about the fragility of the paper he will not open them.
mike ................... 8)
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As my tag was under the front seat, mine be USA.
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interesting the tag was under the front seat, that's where usa builts placed them.
The X would stand for EXPORT . I would like to see by clearing it up with car wax what the plate says. Then photo it. This looks like the plate they offer on ebay thru sellers and its left up to you to get number and letter stamps and punch in the numbers info.
Does this vehicle have left or right hand drive originally ????
Does this vehicle have the body makers cowl tag down on the side with either a fisher plate or a HOLDEN plate. ????
Here is a picture of the firewall ID plate from a 1935 Chevrolet standard roadster, the last one built in Canada, its body #50 . GM records show only 50 roadsters built for sale in Canada, this is #50 the last roadster built .
have friend who is trying to buy the car but not having any luck.
mike 8)
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Mike, nice Roadster.
The car is right hook, and it has a Fisher tag.
I'll see if I can clean the plate up some more.
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Ha I'm back, and ready to get into the Chev over Summer.
Haven't really done anything over Winter, been so busy with other stuff, and having a daily driver hot rod means ive neglected the 35.
Heres a quick pic of how its looking today.
I had collected and copied each of the pictures you have posted, sorry to tell you but that's not an authentic roadster pickup , as was built in Australia by HOLDEN GM.. Its a FISHER BODY OR AUSSIE BODY , BUT STARTED LIFE AS A COUPE OR SEDAN OR 4 DOOR SEDAN . The wrap around panel in the back is from a sedan or most likely a 4 door. The windshield frame is from a closed car.....coupe-- sedan-- 4 door sedan. The closed car door tops have been whacked off also .
Did you buy the car this way, because if you did , somebody lied to you about its origin. Will post a picture of a real auzzie HOLDEN bodied roadster pickup.
mike
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madmike. He knows it's not an original one. He been making it from a sedan he got.
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Hey Ghost, Merry Christmas.
I hitter get caught up with your Buick.
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Hey Ghost, Merry Christmas.
I hitter get caught up with your Buick.
And a Merry Christmas back at ya. I was wondering when you would be back on here.
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Thanks, my log in details went on holiday, but they're back now.
I got Kean yesterday, and cut out cowl vent hole, ready to fill.
Tried something different for pics.
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Looking good Jeff, glad you are back at it.
Tom
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WOW. That's gonna be a big cowl vent unless I am missing something.
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Thanks Tom, looking forward to the holidays.
Ghost, I'm deleting the vent. Figure you don't need em in a Roadster, and it was stuffed anyway.
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I like it the way it is, Kiwi, and I think Mike does too, I think he's just throwing out some info. That's what we do ;D
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I don't think we need to get into correcting each other as to what is what. That is how the HAMB was born. I really think we are all old enough to know the difference in the style of builds and the differences in the models.
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Ditto, what Ghost said ;)
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While you guys are beating yourselves up over nomenclature we might as well open up the old debate about engine vs motor so we can get everyone excited. ???
Moose
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That's it, Moose!!!!!.....You have crossed the line!!!! >:(
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While you guys are beating yourselves up over nomenclature we might as well open up the old debate about engine vs motor so we can get everyone excited. ???
Moose
OK..you use a motor to start an engine...but if you use a motor as for example: a wind turbine..it becomes an engine :o
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Its interesting how we all have different terms for parts etc.
The English, and us Colonials call cowls, scuttles. Hoods are bonnets, trunks are boots.
My way of looking at it, is as long as we all know what were talking about, its no big thing.
Who knows what this old Chev will end up as.
I considered stripping it recently, to use as parts for my 28 Speedster.
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I've had people call my cabriolet a roadster or convertible. Doesn't matter to me as long as they are interested in it enough to talk about it that's all that matters.
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OK...Should I go to the Engine Vehicle Department to get my new registration for the truck that I bought from the Ford Engine Company to carry my new Harley Engine Cycle around.....I'm so confused I think I'll just buy a six of beer and take a nice ride on the lake in my engine boat to help clear my head. 8) ;) :D ;D
While you guys are beating yourselves up over nomenclature we might as well open up the old debate about engine vs motor so we can get everyone excited. ???
Moose
OK..you use a motor to start an engine...but if you use a motor as for example: a wind turbine..it becomes an engine :o
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Hell i'm just happy when they recognize it to be a Chevrolet! ;D
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Hey Guys..I just deleted a few posts from this string..had some concern about the negativity. Don't want this forum to become hostile like some of the other forums. As our mothers said..if you can't say anything good..don't say anything at all! Don't be surprised in the future if your post disappears!
With that said...Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.... TFoch, TheMoose and myself all appreciate you folks participating.
Thanks
Ed
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Ed somehow i agree we don't need this foolishness over here. By the way would you let buddy know that i found an 83 6 cylinder with electronic ignition much closer and for half the price thanks wayne vette59jdwl
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Thanks, Ed. We're all just car guys having fun and sharing stories and info. Let's have fun!!!!!!!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!!!!!! ;D :) :)
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By the way would you let buddy know that i found an 83 6 cylinder with electronic ignition much closer and for half the price thanks wayne vette59jdwl
There is another 250 on Craigslist asking $300....I would think those engines are worth about $100 ?
http://plattsburgh.craigslist.org/pts/4814405874.html
I have a 230 from a 1969 Camaro RS...(have the Camaro also)..but they belong to my son. I bet picking up an electric ignition conversion can't be too tough?
Ed
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Who knows what this old Chev will end up as.
I considered stripping it recently, to use as parts for my 28 Speedster.
Jeff,
do you have any pictures of your 28 Speedster?
Tom
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"There is another 250 on Craigslist asking $300....I would think those engines are worth about $100 ?"
V8 guys just don't get it. ::)
Sorry, I can't help it. I just heard the announcer at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway say, "Gentlemen start your engines." ;D
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Well said Ed, sometimes we might pick at each other for a little fun, but to correct someone because you think they are wrong is wrong on your part. I really enjoy this sight and the people.
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Appreciate the cleanup Ed, thanks.
I wanted to get stuck into this over the holidays, but finding "me" time wasn't happening.
I took to the front left fender with a hammer and dolly, but I'm no panel beater. ;D
Today I whipped out the torque tube and rear shocks.
Tomorrow, one of my customers is coming to give me a hand.
Tom, the Speedster is all stripped at present, but I have a build thread on the Hamb. Search my threads. I think its title is, Hop up mods for Hudson Super Six.
Just brought a 39 Hudson hood for the rear boat tail. Just got to get it down from the North Island.
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Well today was big. Not much done to the 35, but we got the shop cleaned out, pushed the Chev outside, and took pics.
Went down to wreakers to borrow the engine hoist, but no luck.
I did get pic of mates Caddy.
Got covered in rubber. I had to cut a tyre off one of my Hudson wheels. Don't use a grinder to do this, its real messy, haha.
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My poor grinder looks like its 60 years old.
Here's a couple more pics. Check out the size of the Hudson chassis.
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Thanks for posting the pics :) Nice looking Caddy, can't be too many down there. Now that everything is cleaned out more room to work on the Chevy ;D
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That is definitely one beefy looking chassis...Built to last. As Tom said,thanks for posting the pictures..Keep um coming!
Moose
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Great pics! That fender doesn't look too bad. I tried cutting a tire with a sawzall once, I wound up using the angle grinder too. Very messy. I'm sure you are getting alot down down there, what's the temperature?
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temperatures in New Zealand tuesday jan 6 2015
https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/new-zealand/auckland/historic.
ITS THEIR SUMMERTIME AND CURRENTLY 85% HUMIDITY AND 24 DEGREES CELCIUS = AROUND 72-74 DEGREES FARHENHEIGHT ........ ;D
mike...... 8)
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With a dolly and a hammer that fender can be straightened right up. At least you have something to start with.
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I used an angle grinder and a drill with flapper wheels to make some wide whites out of skinny whites. What a mess!
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Tom, there's a few Caddy about. We have 3 or 4 that I know of in my small town.
Today I spent the morning weed wracking my wreaker Buddy's yard. Its a little perk job I do every few months, and I have no bookings at the studio this week. Got a little sunburnt, even with using sunscreen. Just nice to be outdoors.
Have a first aid course on Saturday, so only got a couple more free days.
Threw the Hudson tire in the drum and burned it last night after dark. Hope the neighbors had their windows closed. :D
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Jeff
My friends living in Canada are originally from Whangarei, North of the North Island. (about 170 kilometers North of Auckland)
Anywhere near you?
Ed
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Ed, I'm in the South Island, your friends are from the North Island.
I have a sister living in Canada, soon to be spending a few months here on holiday.
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Found this pick on the net.
Don't shoot me for posting a Ford pic, but its just like my vision for this phantom build.
I may cut windscreen surround off and make Roadster screen yet, haven't decided, but I like how this Ford came out, crept for the color.
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Kiwigeff::: Mike Lynch has been mentioning that he is contemplation putting a DUVAL windshield on his 35 roadster Now that is sure to be different. vette59jdwl
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I think the stock chev windshield frame as pictured makes a lot of sense for kiwi. Whole lot less expense and hassles and doesn't look bad even if looking at the UGH ford picture.
A duval windshield runs around $1800.00 and they are all for fords. Speedy Bill from speedway motors in lincoln Nebraska sells the duvalls and he gets them from the place that makes them here in Canada.......british Columbia actually............surprise surprise
The one I have is from the original duval FORD 1935-36 windshield molds and it comes in 5 pieces and requires lots of mods to make it fit my 35 chevy. Easier to do when it comes as pieces. The BC one is already welded up to ONLY fit 30-31.....1932............1933-1934.................., 1935-1936 ford cowls.
mike
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I stumbled onto this thread while I was looking up duvall, it might be helpful to someone........
http://www.clubhotrod.com/shop-talk/27195-how-build-duvall-style-roadster-windshield.html
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Well its been some time since I last looked in.
Figured I better update this thread.
There's been a lot of changes around me, in the last year, not so much with me, but in others around me, that's affected some of my life.
One is that work has been slow, and I decided to thin the herd a little, so I put the Chev up for sale.
A guy from the North Island has brought it, and plans on carrying on with my idea, or doing a roadster.
He owns a 34 and 35 Chev, not sure of body style, I should ask.
So I've been piecing it together over last few weeks for transporting.
Almost done, so here's a pic of it I took an hour ago.
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Jeff,
Sorry to hear the Chevy had to go to a new home. At least it sounds like someone who'll take good care of it. Tell him part of the deal is he has to sign up on the Rusty Bowtie and give us progress reports ;D
Tom
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Jeff..sure hope that you'll still be sticking around here ;)
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Jeff, I always reading your posts from "Down Under". ....Keep um coming!!!
Moose
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Sorry to hear about the Chevy, Jeff, but I know you have to be up to something, the weather is too nice down there!
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If we are lucky we are the caretakers of these cars for a while and can get them to someone else who will car for them. Some of us do beautiful work on them. Some of us just gather scattered pieces to pass on to the skillful but it's always sad to pass on a dream. I hope things get better and Hudson is safe.
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Thanks guys, I do plan in sticking around, and I also hope to own another 30s Chev again, but something possibly already finished.
The new owner is a Chevy man, who not only owns two 30s Chevs, has collected many parts, and makes his own glass fenders and running boards.
I plan on asking him to update me with his progress on my old one, and have already told him of this site.
If it stops raining today, I plan on getting the 35 squared away. Just have to stack panels and boxes of parts on the back, and tie it all down with a cover.
My buddy who will haul it to the inter Island ferry, is a die hard Ford guy, so I'm sure there will be a good dose of car humour going on.
The Hudson needs new back tires, so the $ from the 35 sale will take care of that.
I need tires for a new warrant, as I can't use it until its legal, and as were having such a great Summer, I'm really missing using it.
I have snuck it out a few times, but don't tell anyone, haha.
I did buy myself a 93 V8 Land Rover last year, and I'm loving that. I drive it on the beach, and use it for towing a trailer, running the kid about, and most everything else.
It goes anywhere, is great on fuel, and has windows too! Unlike the Hudson. ;)
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The 35 left home today, for hopefully greener pastures.
I've ordered and payed for new rear tires for Hudson.
It's all going on. Here's a few pics.
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Welcome Jeff, I think you will get all the support you need here, I do. And believe me I jump around a lot...
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Hey Jeff...It's always rough to see um go but something better always seems to fill the void. ;)
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Welcome aboard Jeff..That's all and find But what is that i see lurking in the garage lol lol vette59jdwl
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Glad it's going to a good home. The extra cash will help I'm sure!
Tom
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Kiwi, If you keep your foot out of the Hudson you won't have to sell your other projects to buy rear tires for it. ;D Glad you found a good home for the Chevy. 8)
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Hopefully he will build it into a nice car
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I would have loved to carry on with it, but with having to many projects, and not getting any younger, it was going to be to much. My 28 Hudson Speedster project is also on the quitting list, and I've advertised that too.
The 29 Hudson Hot Rod will be my only toy, and I'm good with that.
I'm going to sell that in a few years, and would like another 30s Chevvy. They seem to go for around a grand down here for rusty project ones, so not hard to find another.
I'd love to get a 34or 5, and do the same thing.
We'll see what happens.
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"and not getting any younger"
Ha, you're one of the youngsters around here unless your age is one of those metric number us Yanks don't understand ;D
Tom
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Kiwi. I hope it all works out for you, amd the new owner. I am thinking along the same lines after selling the last few of my builds. The roadster I have now is my keeper, and the only one I really want and need, but other build may follow.
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OK Jeff...Be honest with us..We all know you really hated to see her go. ;)
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I'm turning 50 this year, but my 32 yr old girlfriend keeps me young, haha.
Moose, love your work, but your best work is when you get ya humour on.
Still tell people what you did to the Impala Limo I put up for you to mess with.
Kevin, the guy who delivered the 35 to top of the South Island for me on Friday, told me yesterday, that it all went smoothly.
The next guy, who was to pick it up, take it across Cook straight on the ferry, then deliver it to Rodger in the North Island, was supposed to pick it up on Sunday.
Good thing Kevin took it up Friday, as the next guy was there, two days early, to pick it up.
That means, Rodger should get it today, Sunday.
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Kiwijeff Around here the auto dismantlers auto wreckers and steel man have gotten all the old cars all the old busses and all the old farm machinery and anything of wteel worth picking up. I had such a hard time finding a descent running 25o and just this friday past the wife and I went to the US of A to pick up a descesnt 250.There is nothing left anywhere not even in the outback OH and yes they even went into Quebec hauling out all the steel Now the steel prices dropped but not the prices on anything made of steel vette59jdwl
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Vette, that sucks.
Kevin's brother owns an Autowreckers, and we picked up some 34 Chev parts in the city a few year back, not long after I brought the 35.
I brought five wire wheels off him, but a few months later, when I didn't buy engine, box, diff and front end off him, he sold it to the scrapper.
Some just have no respect for history.
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Yeah that's rough, but to most people it is just that, scrap, and they don't realize it could be repurposed by someone. Once these parts and cars are lost to scrap prices we are left to make or buy new parts for our cars. Thankfully there is some good vendors to fill the void.
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At least you were able to find a buyer. I live in Cheapville, so my car would take years to sell. I may as well put it up for sale now and when im done restoring it, I may have a buyer. or not. 8)
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Just a quick couple of pics, of the 35 in its new home.
Rodger sent these to me over a month back, so I figured it was time to post em on this thread. He has not done anything to it yet, apart from unpack it, but I'm happy that he kept me in the loop.
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Hey Jeff...Looks like a pretty good place to live. You don't have to worry about her anymore ;D ;)
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Jeff I'm glad he is keeping in touch. For me, it's a lot easier to look at one I sold unfinished than to look at one I sold finished!
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The new owner, Rodger told me a few days ago, that the frame is stripped and almost ready for blasting. :)