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Title: Old roadster and trailor for sale
Post by: ghost28 on November 08, 2015, 07:44:23 PM
https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=4&acctid=7293
Title: Re: Old roadster and trailor for sale
Post by: vette59jdwl on November 08, 2015, 08:33:23 PM
Ghost  looks like you found the gold mine or roadster I believe this to be a 1925 or 1926 Oakland/Pontiac deluxe roadster most were either coupes or cabriolets very few true roadsters but pictures say this is one of a kind ok maybe two vette59jdwl
Title: Re: Old roadster and trailor for sale
Post by: madmike3434 on November 08, 2015, 11:38:50 PM
its definitely a roadster, cabriolet's really didn't come around until early 1930 and up.

To attempt to restore or street rod , that would be a massive undertaking .

mike
Title: Re: Old roadster and trailor for sale
Post by: ghost28 on November 09, 2015, 09:01:44 AM
its definitely a roadster, cabriolet's really didn't come around until early 1930 and up.

To attempt to restore or street rod , that would be a massive undertaking .

mike
that wouldn't be too bad to fix up with a lot of time, labor, and money. About like my Buick
Title: Re: Old roadster and trailor for sale
Post by: madmike3434 on November 09, 2015, 12:52:48 PM
your buick appears to have been in significantly better condition than the Pontiac shown.  Minimal rust at the bottom of panels whereas the Pontiac is missing 3-4" on cowl and quarters.

Its a project for somebody with a lot of time and metal working skills.

mike       8)
Title: Re: Old roadster and trailor for sale
Post by: vette59jdwl on November 09, 2015, 02:41:44 PM
  Mike  what i meant by what i said was PONTIAC did not make a real pontiac till 1932 before that they were Oakland / Pontiac started in 1926.If this is a 1925 then it is a proto-type check the body lines there is nothing that i can find that looks like that ,headlights look like 25 dodge-brothers , winshield posts also look like 25 dodge dash looks like 25 dodge but obviously its not a dodge brothers product.
  Oh and by the way last night i went out to the shop to check on the door i purchased from Don Beals It has the holder for the curtain rod broken off but it is in the door.both doors are not the same they are offset eg in picture
  Also 1981 drivers door and 1982 passengers door. I have the dimensions and a picture of the curtain rod if you want one just say so according to acca they are made of 3/8 steel rod squared offset on the bottom and heated and pounded into shape on the top.  vette59jdwl
Title: Re: Old roadster and trailor for sale
Post by: 28chevyguy on November 09, 2015, 02:54:18 PM
way cool ,... noticing the I- beam axle appears to be rotted right through ... if thats the case wow.....
Title: Re: Old roadster and trailor for sale
Post by: madmike3434 on November 09, 2015, 05:11:51 PM
I found a fully restored 1926 Pontiac sedan pictures online and the body line  is nothing like on that roadster, nor are the fenders in the trailer ad anything like what the restored car has.  Possible the body line might be common to the roadster tourings only ?

Definitely this is a mystery car, but it has features somebody will be able to identify.  Question is how did they figure out what it is, rad emblem ?  Hubcap ?

Scary rust thru on the axle have never seen that before.

mike
Title: Re: Old roadster and trailor for sale
Post by: madmike3434 on November 09, 2015, 05:50:11 PM
found the place in Australia that makes the correct Chevrolet side rod curtain holders pockets

http://www.vintageandclassicreproductions.com/Universal.htm

Notice it has correct shape to go thru top of door cutouts as opposed to the fords style.  see pictures below
Title: Re: Old roadster and trailor for sale
Post by: vette59jdwl on November 09, 2015, 06:22:45 PM
 I am starting to think this thing is a 1925/26 Chrysler imperial roadster with Pontiac hubcaps lol lol  vette59jdwl
Title: Re: Old roadster and trailor for sale
Post by: ghost28 on November 09, 2015, 07:31:29 PM
Naw. I am pretty sure it's a 27 or 28 pontiac because of the grille and markings on top of the cowl. Here is a 28 pontiac sedan for comparison
Title: Re: Old roadster and trailor for sale
Post by: vette59jdwl on November 09, 2015, 08:03:46 PM
Ghost check the bumper on a 26 chrysler and also the dash   vette59jdwl
Title: Re: Old roadster and trailor for sale
Post by: madmike3434 on November 09, 2015, 08:16:47 PM
whatever it is, Pontiac roadster , with Chrysler imperial fenders.

I blew up the picture of the cowl section, then took a picture of it from my monitor.

That double body line especially with the curl in the lower line is the clue to what this roadster body really is ??????????

mike
Title: Re: Old roadster and trailor for sale
Post by: sammons on November 09, 2015, 08:47:49 PM
Sotheby site. 1928 Pontiac roadster write up-auction.

Link, maybe.lol

http://www.rmsothebys.com/mm07/the-mcmullen-collection/lots/1928-pontiac-roadster/163288
Title: Re: Old roadster and trailor for sale
Post by: vette59jdwl on November 09, 2015, 09:34:02 PM
Well How rare is that, If Pontiac did not start making Pontiac's till 1932. Woke a few us up wait ago Sammons//;//vette59jdwl
Title: Re: Old roadster and trailor for sale
Post by: madmike3434 on November 09, 2015, 11:36:54 PM
bingo , bingo,  bingo, *****sammons nails it*****   28 Pontiac roadster.  That curly q body mark on the cowl panel is the tell tale........great work Sammons.

I was previously looking at closed cars that kept turning up in searches and they definitely did not have that specific body design.  I have never looked into whether the other GM brands of the time the open car bodys were produced by outside suppliers ???????

I know with Chevrolets, roadsters and phaetons bodys were not produced by FISHER BODY but by an outside supplier Hercules-Campbell for Chevrolet.  The bodies are different and used different widths ,  hinges, latches, locks, rear rumble seat lids and angle of the quarter panels. 

 I know this from comparing my 1935 chevrolet standard series fisher bodied coupe and my 1935 Chevrolet standard series roadster with Hercules-Campbell body and a hell of a lot of research over two years.


Oakland was in business as part of GM from around 1914 until 1931 when it was discontinued as a seperate line .  In 1926 GM created the cheaper  pontiac and was part of the Oakland line.  Oldsmobile in 1929--1930 created the Viking.  Buick created the 1929-1930 Marquette.  All of these sub models disappeared as the depression deepened, never to re-appear.

Only one that stayed was the Cadillac LaSalle from 1927 to 1940 .

mike lynch
Title: Re: Old roadster and trailor for sale
Post by: chopper526 on November 10, 2015, 05:59:18 PM
Wat to go, Columbo!! ;D.....Now, who's going to buy it?
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