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Title: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: EDNY on October 18, 2020, 08:17:24 AM
Yep!
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: sixball on October 18, 2020, 10:52:57 AM
Yeah, just shoot the gun out of their hand or wing 'em. Better yet send in the social workers because violent criminals really just need someone who understands them to talk to.  :o
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: EDNY on October 18, 2020, 11:44:11 AM
Now I know why when I read stories where cops shot at a suspect 21 times and didn't hit him...they were trying to hit him in the knee ;D ;D ;D ;D  They aren't really bad shots after all!
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: 62131 on October 18, 2020, 11:59:38 AM
no knock to crawling go figure
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: madmike3434 on October 18, 2020, 01:32:07 PM
cops are aiming all wrong, no knees that means you got a welfare case for life.

Shoot them in the butt, where the criminal brains are.

mike

hairball
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: sixball on October 18, 2020, 04:51:13 PM
At least if on welfare they won't be sitting on their ass for a while.  ::) Shooting them in the knee will make them easier to catch next time.  :o
Many years ago a group of "buck skinners" I belonged to put on a muzzle loading shooting match each year. The county sheriff's shooting team challenged us to a match. We fired first using our guns, muzzle loading rifle and cap and ball revolver, against their modern rifles and handguns. We won! Then we did a second round where we fired their modern weapons and they fired our black powder pieces. We won again.  :) We asked if they wanted to do knives and tomahawks.  ;D

One of my friends from that group was also a quick draw champ with live ammo. He could probably shoot the gun out of someone's hand, or shoot their hand off of their gun, but he wasn't the kind of guy you'd pin a badge on.
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: EDNY on October 20, 2020, 11:54:20 AM
Police firearms training is nonexistent...we had an indoor range that could be used 24/7 even during the Winter months.  GOVT closed it down to make more room for office and storage space.  They just spent millions (MILLIONS) to build a new port of entry in Champlain, NY…no consideration at all for an indoor range (or outdoor) that could be used for all law enforcement agencies, including Canadian.

Our agency REQUIRED firearm qualification every 3 months but did not give us the range to qualify on.  We would have to beg for range time on local privately owned ranges.

One quick story: We had an indoor range that failed OSHA ventilation standards, so we spent over 60K to install a new ventilation system, OSHA returned and said that the system passed but since it was so close…they shut it down again!  So…it was converted into storage space instead.

OSHA was concerned with the ventilation being released into the environment even with filters!  So we had to shoot again outdoors….think about it….now 100% was released outside.

Plus the lead was shot into the ground.  With an indoor range the lead is reclaimed.

Law enforcement agencies spend a lot of time and money on feel good programs...but very little on firearms training.
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: madmike3434 on October 20, 2020, 12:51:40 PM
last time i was thru the Queenston bridge, the USA was building a giant building backing onto the existing smaller building, apparently the government has gazillions of dollars for structures in NY state.  i never go thru niagara falls or fort ERIE , buffalo, i guess they are spending like drunks there too.

Be easiest for government to buy time at club or private ranges.  But that makes too much sense.

Question, for all your years on the force, how many times have you discharged your weapon in the line of duty ?????
How many times a year would you go to the range to just practice .

mike .............
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: chopper526 on October 20, 2020, 08:43:26 PM
I am so glad I am retiring......and my son wants to be a cop :-\
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: madmike3434 on October 20, 2020, 09:10:06 PM
have him apply up here, police start at $57G and get to $92G in 4 years.  plus all medical is covered and less people with hand guns looking to blow you away.

will have to wait until the border re-opens maybe in new year

mike
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: EDNY on October 20, 2020, 11:11:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnafho4KMiQ&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: madmike3434 on October 21, 2020, 04:53:15 PM
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Question, for all your years on the force, how many times have you discharged your weapon in the line of duty ?????
How many times a year would you go to the range to just practice .

mike .............

2nd try for an answer
mike
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: chopper526 on October 21, 2020, 06:45:58 PM
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Question, for all your years on the force, how many times have you discharged your weapon in the line of duty ?????
How many times a year would you go to the range to just practice .

mike .............

2nd try for an answer

Mike, I have never discharged my weapon in the line of duty. I have had it out many, many times, pointed it at many people, never shot, or shot at anyone, thankfully. We have to go to the range and qualify once a year, that's the only time I go. However, my department's range is open every day to practice, they even give up ammo. I am a bit of a dinosaur, in that I still carry a revolver, and not to brag, but I am pretty good with it.....against a paper target, that is ;)
As far as my son goes, you can't become a Philly cop until you are 22, so I said finish college, then try federal law enforcement (FBI, Secret Service, etc), if that doesn't work out go local as a last resort.
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: chopper526 on October 21, 2020, 06:56:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnafho4KMiQ&feature=youtu.be
Ed, this tells me all I need to know about Biden and his mental acuity. If you want to read something frightening, check out his tax proposals.
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: EDNY on October 21, 2020, 07:35:36 PM
I have been in a couple of on duty shootings (border patrol .. I'll leave it at that). 

BTW: I have a fire extinguisher in my shop...never had to use it....hope I don't need to!  Nice to have it just in case.
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: 62131 on October 21, 2020, 07:56:33 PM
Joe has gotta go
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: EDNY on October 21, 2020, 10:02:57 PM
More laptop news:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/laptop-hunter-biden-linked-fbi-money-laundering-probe

Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: chopper526 on October 22, 2020, 07:17:53 PM
I have been in a couple of on duty shootings (border patrol .. I'll leave it at that). 

BTW: I have a fire extinguisher in my shop...never had to use it....hope I don't need to!  Nice to have it just in case.

Glad things worked out for you, brother.
So true...……...
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: TFoch on October 22, 2020, 07:59:19 PM
I highly respect all of you that protect us every day.  Thank you for your service!
Tom
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: chopper526 on October 23, 2020, 06:46:18 PM
Thanks Tom, nice of you to say, especially theses days. I feel sorry for the guys that have a whole career ahead of them......69 days for me ;D ;D
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: TFoch on October 23, 2020, 07:01:45 PM
You're very welcome Chopper!  I have 5 work days left until retirement :D  Can't believe it!!!
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: chopper526 on October 23, 2020, 09:05:33 PM
You're very welcome Chopper!  I have 5 work days left until retirement :D  Can't believe it!!!
You lucky dog! What's your plans?
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: themoose on October 23, 2020, 09:24:35 PM
You're very welcome Chopper!  I have 5 work days left until retirement :D  Can't believe it!!!


Hey Tom I've been retired for 10 years now and still cant believe it. Where does the time go :o
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: TFoch on October 23, 2020, 10:09:20 PM
I had planned to wait until the end of the year but my two oldest grandkids are only in school on Mondays and Wednesdays.  Rather than have them in expensive daycare I decided to move up my retirement so I could take care of their remote learning.  On the days I don't have my grandkids I plan to get a lot of cleaning of my basement done.  Lots of stuff to get done around the house.  When I get caught up I hope to get some work done on the 33.
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: chopper526 on October 23, 2020, 10:47:34 PM
I had planned to wait until the end of the year but my two oldest grandkids are only in school on Mondays and Wednesdays.  Rather than have them in expensive daycare I decided to move up my retirement so I could take care of their remote learning.  On the days I don't have my grandkids I plan to get a lot of cleaning of my basement done.  Lots of stuff to get done around the house.  When I get caught up I hope to get some work done on the 33.
Sounds like a great plan, Tom. Good luck!!
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: RoarsRods on October 24, 2020, 04:18:17 PM
Good luck guys with retirement! My Dad retired early at 50 years old from the P.O. Plus all his friends were dying off and he just wanted to live life building old cars! I retired 15 years ago at 49 years old and every day is Friday! Hey Tom you’re going to have to revise your profile account! Something like “Working to get all grandkids through school and then possibly get back on my 33 Chevrolet Cabriolet” LoL 😂 
Just some thoughts! And possibly we could meet up next year at a cruise!
RoarsRods
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: TFoch on October 24, 2020, 05:07:43 PM
Yeah I was thinking I'll have to change my profile ;D  Definitely have to meet sometime next year.
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: 62131 on October 24, 2020, 06:29:00 PM
Myself I have decided to retire the end of February just didn't want to be cooped up all winter in the house,  there's no heat or a/c in the garage yet, its coming tho
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: EDNY on October 24, 2020, 08:29:25 PM
Trump about 33 years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwNcYiTFRMs

Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: sixball on October 25, 2020, 03:29:54 PM
I think he was a better speaker then but he wasn't pissed off enough to run for President. He is pissed enough now because he's been pointing this stuff out for so long and no one but him would tackle the job. There is so much pressure on him now because he is fighting the battle almost alone as far as the media and other politicians of both major parties. He is doing an amazing job at keeping promises, more than anyone I can remember and I remember Truman. I hope he gets another 4 years, This time he won't have to think about re-election and maybe he can get some more judges in the Federal system.

I've been retired for 20 years and don't know how I ever had time to work.  :o
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: 62131 on October 25, 2020, 05:45:30 PM
Just think what he could accomplish if he was supported in his efforts    Go Trump
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: EDNY on October 25, 2020, 06:39:52 PM
A little cop humor: ;D
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: TFoch on October 25, 2020, 08:08:29 PM
^^^^ ;D
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: sixball on October 25, 2020, 09:01:31 PM
You want to supersize that?  :D
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: 62131 on October 25, 2020, 09:20:58 PM
A little cop humor: ;D


Please stand still :)
Title: Re: If Joe wins...new qualification target for cops.
Post by: chopper526 on October 26, 2020, 12:29:56 PM
A little cop humor: ;D
Good one, Ed......I do know a couple Philly cops like that.
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