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Title: 32' Steering box options
Post by: Rattiac on September 10, 2014, 09:04:38 PM
This winter im looking at replacing my steering box. I try to keep things original but if its a safety thing,  then it gets replaced.

Here's what im looking at . If I go vega or other I have to keep a bit of space between the box and this rod (wich is for the ride control) .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Magna2014-079_zps9d1a84bd.jpg)

Closer pic of the rod for ride control .
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/RockRacer1/Magna2014-078_zps646259cb.jpg)

Please school me on whats available or what would work. Oh and if I could , Id like to keep the original cloumn and steering wheel if at all possible.  Any pics would be helpful .
 :)
Title: Re: 32' Steering box options
Post by: ghost28 on September 10, 2014, 10:46:42 PM
On the vega steering box your steering would have to be converted to cross steer, but with a reversed corvair box then you could stay with the traditional steering on your chevy. As for your collumn and wheel. If you cut your old box off and then trim the outside sleeve back a few inches  to expose the inner steering bar, and put a brass bushing of bearing in the bottom of the tube to align everything, then  the exposed area of the center shaft could be made to except a borgeson or like style joint to finish up the connection to the new box.  I did the same thing on a vega box in a 28 chevy for cross steer, but it should work the same.
Just a thought...John
Title: Re: 32' Steering box options
Post by: Rattiac on September 11, 2014, 09:13:16 PM
Cool thanks Ghost  :) . That helps alot. This will be my winter project on the car . Maybe this x-mas santa will bring me a reversed box .  Im gonna have a get under the car and do some thinkin on how to get around that rod or move it somehow . I have a few months to plan this out.

I dig the steelwork done on your doors. Hopefully I can get some steelwork done to mine after the steering. We'll see .  ;D
Title: Re: 32' Steering box options
Post by: Rattiac on July 22, 2015, 10:26:52 PM
After Halloween the car is getting put sideways in the back of the shop to prepare for this.
Also need to burn up my bias-plys to make way for some radials. Ive decided to hold off on new white-walls for awhile till I get some more cosmetic work done . Blackwalls are cheaper , plus I can spend the money elswhere and radials will be more highway friendly for me.
Title: Re: 32' Steering box options
Post by: Rattiac on September 20, 2015, 11:56:23 PM
Had on question about the stock box. Is it clamped to the column tube (the bolt makes me think so) .
Once unbolted will it slide out ??? Or will I have to cut it as close to the box as possible.
Doing some mock-up to make a gameplan .
Title: Re: 32' Steering box options
Post by: themoose on September 21, 2015, 09:00:02 AM
Yes..On mine I could remove the mast jacket by releasing the clamp...Here's a diagram.
Title: Re: 32' Steering box options
Post by: vette59jdwl on September 21, 2015, 11:34:09 AM
Rattiac ::: how about this for a winter project  maybe practise on the old bias-ply tires.sure would save coin for that steering box.By the way have you ever considered rack and pinion steering

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkcm3rh60p0

vette59jdwl
Title: Re: 32' Steering box options
Post by: vette59jdwl on September 21, 2015, 12:40:40 PM
Rattiac  check this one out , i think there is something interesting here for you   vette 59jdwl

http://martzchassis.net/62-67-nova/1962-67-nova-front-installation/
Title: Re: 32' Steering box options
Post by: Rattiac on January 07, 2016, 02:29:27 PM
Ghost;  what was the diameter of the shaft coming out of the column  ????
Just getting an idea of the parts I need to order.

On the original column it has a big bolt just before the clamp. I have the clamp loose but the big bolt/nut thingy  wont budge . I was hoping to not cut the column and maybe use a existing bushing for the end when I do cut it up higher.
Title: Re: 32' Steering box options
Post by: ghost28 on January 07, 2016, 02:39:16 PM
 on the 28 collumn I believe it was 1 inch, maybe 3/4. but I have slept since then.
Title: Re: 32' Steering box options
Post by: Rattiac on January 13, 2016, 09:31:12 PM
I'm probably going to cut the column, so I don't have to take the dash apart right now . Thats another project after the steering.

Maybe you guys can identify this wire coming out of the steering box. I wanna say its the horn wire but why would it be screwed into the box. Anyway I thought it would be cool if I could save the horn wire .
Title: Re: 32' Steering box options
Post by: vette59jdwl on January 14, 2016, 12:04:44 PM
HOW ABOUT IF THAT WIRE IS THE GROUND WIRE FOR THE HORN BUTTON AND THE POSITIVE IS RUN TO THE HORN BUTTON WITH A FUSE AND THEN GOES TO THE HORN. vette59jdwl
Title: Re: 32' Steering box options
Post by: Rattiac on February 19, 2016, 03:10:22 PM
Ghost. I may have to connect 2   D-shafts to the box. What did you use or what can I use to change the angle (pivot point).
Title: Re: 32' Steering box options
Post by: 62131 on February 19, 2016, 06:34:31 PM
Why not check the continuity between the steering box and the wire to see if they are connected to each other or if it runs thru the center of the column for the horn
Title: Re: 32' Steering box options
Post by: TFoch on February 19, 2016, 06:52:32 PM
I have a rack but this may help you.  I went from a D to a spline and then a u-joint and support bearing to change the angle.  Here's a couple of pics.  I did adjust the support bearing so it was aligned better with the shaft than it is in the picture.
Tom
Title: Re: 32' Steering box options
Post by: ghost28 on February 19, 2016, 08:11:05 PM
Ghost. I may have to connect 2   D-shafts to the box. What did you use or what can I use to change the angle (pivot point).
I used a double universal joint from the box. I did have to use 2 heim joints on my shafts to keep everything solid and not let it flip around. The only reason I had to get so creative was because of those >:( damn headers
Title: Re: 32' Steering box options
Post by: Rattiac on February 20, 2016, 11:12:40 AM
Cool. Thank you. Now I got a better idea of what I need to do once the box is mounted.  8)
Title: Re: 32' Steering box options
Post by: Rattiac on June 08, 2016, 07:50:52 PM
Ghost,  I've been looking at your pic #2 .  I guess the drag link dosent have to go directly over the tierod. ???

Cause my Pittman arm bolt hole would be off an inch, compared to the tie rod.

 
Title: Re: 32' Steering box options
Post by: Rattiac on June 10, 2016, 01:52:33 PM
I was looking at the Borgenson website and it said....
Any car over 2500lbs should be using a Saginaw 525 box and NOT a Vega box.
Wished I would have seen this info earlier. Just when you think you've done your research.

What do your guy's cars weigh that are using Vega boxes????

My guess is a Saginaw would be too big to fit where I needed it anyway.
Title: Re: 32' Steering box options
Post by: ghost28 on June 10, 2016, 11:21:42 PM
You will be fine. I have used them under heavy Hemi cars and a coule of 2900 lb plus cars with no problems.
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