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Re: Fuel Pump Question
« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2015, 05:07:15 PM »
Those are brake lines.

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Re: Fuel Pump Question
« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2015, 06:15:15 PM »
Those are brake lines.

Is there a flexible brake line running to the rear end ????????????

Hard to tell 100% looking at the pictures. 

the steel lines should not be moving up and down with the rear end while attached to the frame.  Its a safety issue for your health.

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Re: Fuel Pump Question
« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2015, 06:45:21 AM »
Yes, the lines are flexible.

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Re: Fuel Pump Question
« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2015, 08:24:20 AM »
Looks great, Munch. Very clean and secure.
Tighten it up til it strips, then back it off a quarter turn

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Re: Fuel Pump Question
« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2015, 08:43:42 AM »
Hi Munch. The mounting looks great, and I bet the steel lines make you more comfortable. You stated the pump needed to be below the tank, and you got it to work on top. How did you get it to work with this type of mounting?

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Re: Fuel Pump Question
« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2015, 11:52:14 AM »
  OK  i want to tell you about BILLIE BOB he bought three thats right three hp electric fuel pumps at 145 each.He burned all three up. Why you ask,,,because they were push not pull pumps and they ran dry no lubrication no cooling and dry to start means trouble.

There are two types of fuel pumps that are electrical a push pump and a pull pump and they do exactly what it says it does you can not use one for the others purpose

 Ok we all know that a standard mechanical pump runs between 3 and 5 pounds pressure
 An electrical pump inline for a TBI system runs between 9 and 12 pounds and has a return line to the fuel tank
 A Multi Port system runs between 40 and 55 pounds and has a return line to the fuel tank
 A Sequential fuel pump system runs between 55 and 60 pounds presure
 On the track I run an electrical fuel pump that pumps a constant 7 pounds of fuel to a mechanical fuel pump that pumps 5 to 7 pounds of presure to a 750 holley carb and i have never had a problem other that blowing a fuse on the electrical pump. If you are going to use a push pump you are going to have to place it as close to the source and as low as possible.A pull type fuel pump could literally be placed anywhere.

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Re: Fuel Pump Question
« Reply #36 on: March 23, 2015, 01:34:02 PM »
OK, I'm still learning and you guys are great for that.  I didn't know about push and pull pumps until I started this thread.  Maybe I will learn more from my mistake, hopefully not.  I choose the current mounting location to stay away from the exhaust.  There wasn't really a choice.  I ran the input line higher that the pump, as EDNY suggested so as to always have fuel in the pump and eliminate dry starts.

If this setup fails, I guess go at it again.

Thanks all.

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Re: Fuel Pump Question
« Reply #37 on: March 23, 2015, 04:01:46 PM »
The mounting of the pump looks very secure and out of the way :)

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Re: Fuel Pump Question
« Reply #38 on: March 23, 2015, 04:28:10 PM »
Thanks guys, but I am a bit gun shy.  I don't want to be stranded.

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Re: Fuel Pump Question
« Reply #39 on: March 23, 2015, 04:55:37 PM »
I have been running the old stewart warner A240 pump since 1973 when I pulled the stock mechanical pump off.

I have had the pump mounted at then same height at the exit of the gas line out the side and also below the frame.  I simply turn the key to ON, listen to the pump click away until it goes into a click from a buzz sound........I also listen for the vacuum pump for the power brakes to finish loading up, hit gas pedal to activate electric choke,. turn key to start and it fires right away.  Been doing that since 73.

I have about 5 of those stewart warner A240 pumps just in case this one gives up on me, because nobody has rebuild parts I know of anymore.  There were a couple of guys on ebay and in England ,  making  some parts for them last I looked----year ago.

mike     8)/size]

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Re: Fuel Pump Question
« Reply #40 on: March 24, 2015, 12:26:20 PM »
Madmike3434  I see you have a pretty health v8 chevy in mind for that weee car  Have you talked with CURT from AJAX  about a total engine  I have  a real good friend that just purchased a boxed 383 with all the goodies and he told me it was cheaper and more personal than purchasing a crate engine and ajax is just over the hill from your place . Now 425 hp and 460 torque  dont you think that is a little much for the 35,shouldn't that peel the paint of the front end lol  vette59jdwl

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Re: Fuel Pump Question
« Reply #41 on: March 24, 2015, 05:48:09 PM »
In all fairness to munch...he asked about installing an electric pump...the thread took another direction.  A mechanical pump will work..everyone agrees on that...but his questions was about mounting an electric pump that he already has. He also mentioned that he had an electric pump on the car previously and was just replacing it.

I was in the same situation and read where guys had them mounted on the tank without a problem..so that's how I did mine. 

I have a feeling that the biggest concern in mounting an electric pump is to be sure it always has fuel in it, which acts as a lubricant?  The pumps burn up when dry...so my idea was to position the pump in a way that fuel will always settle inside the pump so it doesn't start dry?  Again..I may be wrong?

The manufacturer intructs you to mount them low or risk failure. I bet failure is a result of dry starts..so could a simple solution like routing the in and out lines higher than the pump be a solution so the fuel rests in the pump ???

Again....just asking...please be gentle :) :)
  Ed,

What do you think?

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Re: Fuel Pump Question
« Reply #42 on: March 24, 2015, 06:22:58 PM »
Is this the gas tank that is under the pump ,and is this pump a push pump or a pull pump?????
thanks  vette59jdwl

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Re: Fuel Pump Question
« Reply #43 on: March 24, 2015, 06:36:44 PM »
Is this the gas tank that is under the pump ,and is this pump a push pump or a pull pump?????
thanks  vette59jdwl
Vette,

Yes that is the tank and it is a Holley Red pump.  It has pretty strong suction on the bench, but I am pretty sure it is a push type.  It prime fast and I mounted the input line higher that the pump in hopes of keeping it primed.

It is hard to tell in the pic but there is no place to mount it even with the output without hanging it where it could be hit and on top of the exhaust.

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Re: Fuel Pump Question
« Reply #44 on: March 24, 2015, 07:27:16 PM »
not sure where I saw it EBAY ???, was a one way single valve that stopped flow back on gasoline. Was an aeroquip and dash -6 fitting .

Have to check if its still in my ebay watching.

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